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Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
It does seem IU has continued to shop past 11, so I would expect at least 12, -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
That was a quick commitment. -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
If he was looking at Vandy, IU, and 2 other big ten schools, he at least made the second best decision. -
My guess is that Dawson Garcia will be starting alongside either Edmonds or Parker Fox. As hard of a time as they have have raising NIL there, I would just find the timing strange of signing Edmonds right now if they feel Hatton is coming along as well.
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Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
He played more than 60 minutes as a 5. — that was just a very obvious time when he was playing the 5. Point is that Sparks could only play the 5, Walker was able to play both. He was mainly a 4 but saw minutes at the 5. Hatton is mainly a 5 who can play the 4; that alone gives him the ability to play more minutes than sparks -
PF/C Trey Edmonds commits to Minnesota. Gophers seemed to be IU’s biggest rival for Hatton
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His brother is the better player I believe (and is 7’3”) but from what I’ve read the younger brother has been working himself into being a stretch 5.
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Khalif Battle moves from Arkansas to Gonzaga; Calipari replaces that spot with Adou Thiero.
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I believe over 50% of those who entered the portal haven’t committed anywhere so the Big Ten’s 25% is good…especially when it goes down further for guys like Coleman Hawkins are technically in but are almost surely staying in the draft.
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Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Walker did get some minutes alongside Reneau where Walker really played the 5. Walker played 31 minutes against Illinois (Sparks played 2) and 29 minutes against Kennesaw State when Ware was out. Point is, Walker did play minutes at the 5. -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
If Sparks could even hit a free throw he might have seen the court more. -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
He’s 6’10”. People define athleticism differently. He’s not a pogo stick player but the foot speed is fine and he’s a decent rebounder. -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
We are getting a little ahead of ourselves on him adding, but — Hatton is more Walker than Sparks. He’s a better shooter than Walker but not probably quite as athletic. Walker played as a 4/5, Sparks could only play the 5. you can go two ways about filling in the backup 4/5: find someone who plays like Ballo but isn’t nearly as good or find someone who isn’t as good as Ballo but adds something that Ballo doesn’t. The first strategy might work if ballo gets hurt, the second is trying to maximize the team if ballo is healthy. I prefer strategy #2. -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
A couple of other notes about Hatton: Bellarmine's slower pace make his stats look a little lesser than they actually are. KenPom has Hatton in the top 500 D1 players in 5 categories: 1. offensive rebounding rate (463rd) 2. defensive rebounding rate (252nd) 3. turnover rate (187th) 4. block rate (355th) 5. fouls committed (as in NOT committing fouls) (444th) -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I'm higher on Langdon Hatton than most on here. Bellarmine starting letting get up a few threes last year and he made 33% (15 of 45). He was a four year varsity player at North Harrison and the three point shooting he started showing last year isn't just something that showed up -- he was a 39% three point shooter in high school with a signficant number of attempts. Pretty good for a 6'10" kid. I also like that a player like him offers more flexibility than players we have had like Sparks and Durr who were overpowering players at mid majors. I think Hatton's game translates better because it isn't really based on being more physically imposting. -
Added in years of elibility left and minutes played each season. Also added Hatton and NK since we've contacted. 247 rank Last name First name Former school Height mpg ppg rpg bpg FG% 3pt shooting FT% Elg Min each year 1 Osobor Great Utah St 6'8" 33.6 17.7 9 1.4 59 64 1 15, 19, 34 20 Miller Baba Florida St 6'11" 24.8 7.6 4.9 1.1 55 24 of 82 (29%) 56 2 17, 25 28 Cisse Moussa Ole Miss 6'10" 17.6 4.5 4.6 1.4 56 26 1 19, 20, 23, 18 29 Onyenso Ugonna Kentucky 6'11" 18.8 3.6 4.8 2.8 55 59 2 7, 19 39 Wright Kijana USC 6'9" 12 3.9 2.6 0.3 58 71 2 10, 12 47 Allen Max Marist 6'9" 22.4 11.4 3.8 0.3 52 66 2 7, 22 53 Pohto Kenny Wichita State 6'11" 22.4 8.8 5.9 0.3 47 9 of 43 (21%) 63 1 14, 27, 22 56 Edmonds Trey Texas-SA 6'9" 22.2 7 5.8 0.4 56 46 1 7, 9, 22 59 Anselem-Ibe Frank Georgia 6'10" 9.1 2.6 2.1 0.7 63 63 1 7, 14, 15, 9 60 Powell Duncan Sacremento St 6'8" 26.5 12.1 7 0.3 54 14 of 49 (29%) 69 2 23, 27 61 Reeves Christian Duke 7'1" 3 game 3 3 62 Okorafor Emmanuel Louisville 6'9" 7 2.4 2.2 0.5 65 53 3 7 65 Boayke Enoch Fresno St 6'10" 22.7 7.5 7.7 1.2 62 49 1 12, 3, 23 67 Wheeler Roosevelt VCU 6'10" 4.9 0.6 0.7 0.1 57 33 1 7, 8 , 5 68 Brown-Ferguson Javonte Western Mich 7' 15.7 8.8 4.2 1 58 54 2 7, 16 69 Mutombo Ryan Georgetown 7'2" 3.7 0.7 1.2 0.1 38 56 1 12, 5 . 4 71 Colbert Jerrell Kansas State 6'10" 11.3 2.6 2.3 1 48 52 3 11 74 Gardner Jazz Nevada 7' 6.5 2.5 2 0.2 45 44 3 7 75 Coleman-Jones Jared Middle Tenn 6'10" 28.1 11 7.6 1.1 45 19 of 43 (44%) 77 1 10, 11, 12, 28 77 King Fredrick Creighton 6'10" 6.4 2.6 2.2 0.3 57 52 2 8, 6 78 Bradford Davion New Mexico St 7' 10 2.5 2 0.5 76 35 1 21, 15, 10 79 Loveday Zach Samford 7' 6.5 2.8 1.7 0.6 71 64 1 4. 4, 3, 7 80 Gray Josh South Carolina 6'11" 10 3.2 2.8 0.6 54 49 1 3, 11, 17, 10 81 Linguard Carlton Texas-SA 6'11" 25.3 9.3 6.2 1.5 42 38 of 124 (32%0 79 2 7, 8, 25 82 Keita Keba Utah 6'7" 16.2 8.3 5.4 1.1 61 56 2 11, 16 83 Okpomo Emmanuel Temple 6'10" 6 0.7 0.9 0.3 75 67 1 or 2 9, 7, 6, 6 84 Njie Mo SMU 6'10" 3.5 0.8 1.1 0.2 39 0 of 2 1 20, 6, 4 85 Zona Matt Notre Dame 6'9" 11.2 2.3 2.3 0.1 62 13 of 41 (32%) 35 2 5, 2, 7, 11 87 Paar Chase Towson 6'9" 11.3 3.3 2.1 0.4 52 63 1 19, 22, 11, 7, 11 88 Marial Chol Oregon St 7'2" 11.7 2.3 2.4 1 37 80 2 5, 6, 13, 12 89 Iriel Patrick USC Upstate 6'10" 8.8 3 2 0.4 67 27 1 9 Jones Joe Canisius 6'9" injured 2 15, 10 Hatton Langdon Bellarmine 6'10" 27.8 10.5 7.1 0.8 48 15 of 45 (33%) 68 1 15, 13, 28
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Jones Joe Canisius 6'9" injured 247 PF rank Last name First name Former school Height mpg ppg rpg bpg FG% 3pt shooting FT% 1 Omier Norchad Miami 6'7" 30.6 17 10 0.8 55 24 of 69 (35%) 75 3 Mitchell Dillon Texas 6'8" 29 9.6 7.5 0.9 61 60 4 Hawkins Coleman Illinois 6'10" 31.6 12.1 6.1 1.1 45 59 of 160 (37%) 79 5 Toppin JT New Mexico 6'9" 26.6 12.4 9.1 1.9 62 11 of 32 (34%) 57 6 Brazile Trevon Arkansas 6'9" 25.7 8.6 5.9 1.2 49 24 of 68 (35%) 70 10 Power TJ Duke 6'9" 7 2.1 0.7 0.1 33 15 of 42 (37%) 86 17 Lubin Ven-Allen Vanderbilt 6'8" 28.2 12.3 6.3 1 50 13 of 39 (33%) 73 19 Ausar Ezra East Carolina 6'9" 26.2 11.4 4.7 0.5 51 6 of 16 (38%) 65 24 Burns DJ Youngstown St 6'7" 28.9 13.1 11 0.7 52 31 of 96 (32%) 84 33 Bewley Matt Chicago St not cleared by NCAA 36 Mag Mawot Rutgers 6'7" 26.8 9.1 3.8 0.4 39 12 of 49 (25%) 70 40 Bewley Ryan Chicago St not cleared by NCAA 0 41 Achor Achor Samford 6'9" 22.7 16.1 6.1 1.8 59 27 of 62 (44%) 71 46 Walker CJ Cen Florida 6'8" 22.5 7.8 4.7 0.5 40 9 of 29 (31%) 65 53 Cook Supreme Georgetown 6'9" 27.1 10.5 8 0.5 58 57 56 Almonor Ansley Detroit 6'7" 32 16.4 5.1 0.7 44 93 of 236 (39%) 80 57 Rivera Daniel Bryant 6'6" 31.6 13.3 8.1 2.2 50 47 58 Ousmane Abou Xavier 6'10" 21.3 6.7 6.4 1.2 47 45 70 Gardner Brandon USC 6'8" injured 72 Lindsay KyeRon Texas Tech 6'7" 6.2 2.7 1.3 0.7 63 50 73 Selebangue Bryant Arizona State 6'9" 15.9 4.8 4.1 0.3 57 44 78 Aire Favour Penn State 6'11" 4.6 0.6 1 0.5 38 20 79 Anamekwe Alex Texas 6'5" only 5 games 80 Mcchesney Liam High Point injured 81 Benson NJ Missouri St 6'8" 21.8 8.6 7.9 1.6 63 61 82 Ware Lance Villanova 6'9" 10.5 1.2 2.3 0.4 48 56 83 Murrell Max Stanford 6'9" 14.7 2.6 2.1 0.9 37 7 of 23 (31%) 73 85 Buyuktuncel Berka UCLA 6'9" 16.3 4.5 2.5 0.3 39 11 of 37 (30%) 63 86 Foster Xavier SMU injured 88 Dziuba Pavlo High Point 6'8" 9.1 1.3 2.1 0.1 57 47
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VERY incomplete list of centers still in the portal and the 247 center ranking. Some may have signed and 247 hasn't posted yet. Don't see NK and Hatton on the list but there are lots of oversights -- particularly if a player didn't have a recruit ranking coming out of high school. FWIW, Hatton is listed as the #28 overall center in that entered the portal by On3. Will be creating a separate list for power forwards as some guys that play the 4 or 5 get listed as 4's. On three point shooting, I only gave totals if there was a significant number of threes taken. 247 C rank Last name First name Former school Height mpg ppg rpg bpg FG% 3pt shooting FT% 2 Osobor Great Utah St 6'8" 33.6 17.7 9 1.4 59 64 20 Miller Baba Florida St 6'11" 24.8 7.6 4.9 1.1 55 24 of 82 (29%) 56 28 Cisse Moussa Ole Miss 6'10" 17.6 4.5 4.6 1.4 56 26 29 Onyenso Ugonna Kentucky 6'11" 18.8 3.6 4.8 2.8 55 59 39 Wright Kijana USC 6'9" 12 3.9 2.6 0.3 58 71 47 Allen Max Marist 6'9" 22.4 11.4 3.8 0.3 52 66 53 Pohto Kenny Wichita State 6'11" 22.4 8.8 5.9 0.3 47 9 of 43 (21%) 63 56 Edmonds Trey Texas-SA 6'9" 22.2 7 5.8 0.4 56 46 59 Anselem-Ibe Frank Georgia 6'10" 9.1 2.6 2.1 0.7 63 63 60 Powell Duncan Sacremento St 6'8" 26.5 12.1 7 0.3 54 14 of 49 (29%) 69 61 Reeves Christian Duke 7'1" 3 game 62 Okorafor Emmanuel Louisville 6'9" 7 2.4 2.2 0.5 65 53 65 Boayke Enoch Fresno St 6'10" 22.7 7.5 7.7 1.2 62 49 67 Wheeler Roosevelt VCU 6'10" 4.9 0.6 0.7 0.1 57 33 68 Brown-Ferguson Javonte Western Mich 7' 15.7 8.8 4.2 1 58 54 69 Mutombo Ryan Georgetown 7'2" 3.7 0.7 1.2 0.1 38 56 71 Colbert Jerrell Kansas State 6'10" 11.3 2.6 2.3 1 48 52 74 Gardner Jazz Nevada 7' 6.5 2.5 2 0.2 45 44 75 Coleman-Jones Jared Middle Tenn 6'10" 28.1 11 7.6 1.1 45 19 of 43 (44%) 77 77 King Fredrick Creighton 6'10" 6.4 2.6 2.2 0.3 57 52 78 Bradford Davion New Mexico St 7' 10 2.5 2 0.5 76 35 79 Loveday Zach Samford 7' 6.5 2.8 1.7 0.6 71 64 80 Gray Josh South Carolina 6'11" 10 3.2 2.8 0.6 54 49 81 Linguard Carlton Texas-SA 6'11" 25.3 9.3 6.2 1.5 42 38 of 124 (32%0 79 82 Keita Keba Utah 6'7" 16.2 8.3 5.4 1.1 61 56 83 Okpomo Emmanuel Temple 6'10" 6 0.7 0.9 0.3 75 67 84 Njie Mo SMU 6'10" 3.5 0.8 1.1 0.2 39 0 of 2 85 Zona Matt Notre Dame 6'9" 11.2 2.3 2.3 0.1 62 13 of 41 (32%) 35 87 Paar Chase Towson 6'9" 11.3 3.3 2.1 0.4 52 63 88 Marial Chol Oregon St 7'2" 11.7 2.3 2.4 1 37 80 89 Iriel Patrick USC Upstate 6'10" 8.8 3 2 0.4 67 27 90 Jones Joe Canisius 6'9" injured
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Don’t know if the price tag is true….if so, he is nowhere near being worth that.
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Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I thought that was his Maryland visit date. -
Transfer Portal w IU Interest
RaceToTheTop replied to Class of '66 Old Fart's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Alex Hemenway is also to visit Rutgers now — have not seen a date specified. -
i remember when Purdue fans used to make fun of Crean for over signing. painter oversigned this year by four players and even with Edey going pro and Morton and Gillis going into the portal, he is over the allotment by 1….which means he’ll have to ‘persuade’ an incoming freshman to go the prep school route or force someone to give up their scholly. So someone is getting Paintered.
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President Whitten - 2024 Faculty No Vote
RaceToTheTop replied to HoosierHoopster's topic in Off Topic Forum
Seems to me the perfect real world lessons are the ones that provide life lessons in how not to do things. As you said, they are kids (or young adults). Not a surprise they are going to do some things in the wrong way….best way to learn and do it better in the future. Personally, I’d be more concerned with the ultra privileged kids who simply don’t give a **** about the world outside their own dorm room. -
Interesting case -- Bewley twins are in the portal. They signed with Chicago State last year (I am sure they ended up there largely because their eligibility was in question and Chicago State could afford to have the open spots if they didn't become eligible). NCAA is still ruling them ineligible as the case makes it through the courts. Their crime? Making money off of their name, image, and likeness while playing for Overtime Elite -- about $31,000 more than the expenses to cover beyond their education, room, board, and travel expenses. Seems very strange because they basically are saying that players can't profit from their name, image, and likeness UNLESS it is done when they are in college. https://www.on3.com/news/former-ote-stars-ryan-matt-bewley-enter-ncaa-transfer-portal-amid-ongoing-eligibility-case/
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Not really a portal entry, but if IU interest. Top 125 incoming 6’5” guard Jonathon Powell requests a release from his NLI to Xavier. Had an IU offer. Believe he played with Cupps in high school.