RaceToTheTop

I heard a rumor that Earl Calloway's shoulders hit the transfer portal years before he left IU.

I used to really hate reading LCS posts. Now he's one of my favorite posters. Either he's evolved or I've evolved. According to my wife, I haven't.

big ten refs…..no travel or three seconds called here. https://x.com/itsAntWright/status/1761841769434538427?s=20

Sparks probably just because as a two time transfer would have to sit a year

Someone posted it here in this thread somewhere but I don't recall the source. IMO, if he's lost Galloway he's lost the whole team. Galloway is a coach's kid, 100% Indiana all of the way and has stayed loyal to the program even prior to knowing who was going to replace Archie Miller.

Winning -- or least playing competitively in most losses -- hid a lot. First two seasons, 11 of IU's 26 losses were by 5 points or less. This season only one of IU's 13 losses have been by 5 points or less. IU's average margin of loss has been 14 points this year. There hasn't even been a 'if the ball had bounced our way in this and this and this' game where the Hoosiers would be in the hunt for the NCAA.

Just looked at their resume and was shocked to see right now they haven’t played a single quad 1 game.

FWIW…..of Davis, Crean, Miller, and Woodson….this is the quickest I’ve ever been on board the ‘he has to be fired’ train. And it didn’t even enter my thoughts until this year. There hasn’t been a single moment of this season where the team has looked good. And it’s not untalented, just incredibly uneven. And I’ve grown tired of Woodson’s hand wringing and ability to put in the work to fix the issues.

Sometimes they are structured like that, sometimes not. But regardless of how they are structured, they can be negotiated to be paid out differently later.

I would have to think that a donor on the side of Woodson and Buckner would be....let's say....in the early bird dinner crowd. Going to have to seek donors who still chew food with their own teeth in order to counteract them.

I don't think people understand SEPs*. I'll watch IU games for the rest of the year and hope they win. Just my nature. Doesn't mean I don't want a change at the top. SEPs, by their nature, I'm not going to worry about. The board of trustees has to make a decision and how I root from my couch has no bearing on that. * -- Somebody Else's Problem

Or could be money spread out over several years instead of all at once.

What are these 'win' things you speak of?

Indiana will fire Mike Woodson only to replace him with Walt Bellamy. Later it is discovered he's been dead for 11 years but Quinn Buckner refuses to fire Bellamy.

And I am the poster whose claim to fame is saying that Dan Dakich puts ketchup on his chicken sandwiches, so there is that.

WAR through Sunday's games: Purdue 25-3 WAR +10.07 Houston 24-3 WAR +8.59 U Conn 25-3 WAR +8.28 Arizona 21-6 WAR +6.27 Marquette 21-6 WAR +5.87 UNC 21-6 WAR +5.76 Tennessee 21-6 WAR +5.68 Kansas 20-6 WAR +5.62 Alabama 19-8 WAR +5.20 Iowa State 21-6 WAR +4.76 South Carolina 22-5 WAR +4.74 Auburn 21-6 WAR +4.63 Duke 21-6 WAR +4.60 San Diego State 19-7 WAR +4.49 Illinois 20-7 WAR +4.35 Dayton 21-5 WAR +4.16 Utah State 20-5 WAR +4.15 Creighton 20-8 WAR +3.98 Baylor 18-8 WAR +3.92 Wisconsin 18-9 WAR +3.58 Clemson 19-8 WAR +3.57 Washington State 21-7 WAR +3.48 Florida 19-8 WAR +3.44 Texas Tech 19-8 WAR +3.30 Indiana State 23-5 WAR +3.02 Close: Nebraska 20-8 WAR +3.00, Mississippi State 19-8 WAR +2.88, Nevada 21-6 WAR +2.87, Northwestern 19-8 WAR +2.83, Kentucky 18-8 WAR +2.82. Multiple big leagues (using the assumption that the team with the best WAR wins the conference tournament): Big 12 (8): Houston (2), Kansas (8), Iowa State (10), Baylor (19), Texas Tech (24), Oklahoma (31), TCU (36), BYU (38) SEC (8): Tennessee (7), Alabama (9), South Carolina (11), Auburn (12), Florida (23), Mississippi St (27), Kentucky (30), Mississippi (33) Big 10 (6): Purdue (1), Illinois (15), Wisconsin (20), Nebraska (26), Northwestern (29), Michigan State (51) Mountain West (6): San Diego State (14), Utah State (17), Nevada (28), Colorado State (32), New Mexico (39), Boise State (42) ACC (6): UNC (6), Duke (13), Clemson (21), Virginia (35), Wake Forest (49), Syracuse (50) Big East (5): U Conn (3), Marquette (5), Creighton (18), Seton Hall (44), Providence (48) Pac 12 (2): Arizona (4), Washington State (22) WCC (2): St. Mary's (34), Gonzaga (47) MVC (2): Indiana State (25), Drake (45) ------------- Last four byes: Seton Hall, Drake, Gonzaga, Providence Last four in: Providence, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Michigan State First four out: Texas, Colorado, Oregon, Memphis Next four out: South Florida, Utah, Kansas State, Butler

The program did recover from it, though it took a few years.

In terms of players partying, no one would care about it if the team was winning. And I wholeheartedly agree that the player's actions are a reflection of a coach who doesn't seem to want to put in the hours. It certainly takes a different personality to want to do the grind of the college game at age 66. It's not for everyone....Woodson hasn't recognized his own biggest shortcomings and at age 66 being a third year college coach, he isn't going to.

In terms of '250 pages of attaboying it'....the number of people who weren't posting in the thread at the beginning but are now speaks volumes. This is how it was right before Miller was fired. When those reticent to move on from a coach cross over, that speaks volumes. I am one of those who avoids those topics for as long as possible but there isn't a path where this ends well.

IU 80, Wisconsin 70

Yeah, I'm sure that he he called his players unathletic and slow because they needed motivation. Strange that the motivational techniques that his previous program was hookers and blow when they could have saved money by 'calling out his players' to the press. And let's not act like the 'they are 2-0 since' means that they played two good games. They beat Georgetown by 5 points.

St.John's going to take down Creighton....just a few days after Pitino's whine about his players and basically saying it was all their fault that they were losing.

Hard to control their behavior from the golf course.

That's fine. The statement that was originally made was stating it as fact that "MM is gone", which is what I was questioning. Ware going pro makes sense because he's appearing on late first/early second draft boards. Mgbako isn't appearing on anyone's draft board. As I've said, the number of players who think they are one and dones always exceeds the number who actually are one and dones.

It was Wake Forest.