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Give me either, but I'd prefer to even the score with scUM. Not really afraid of playing MSU a third time. To hell with them both.

yup. with the injuries we had this year, it's awesome the way the team never gave up. the losing streaks surrounding the first MSU win were some of the ugliest i can remember. i think system/chemistry, etc is starting to click a bit now that we're not a MASH unit. still not ready to call them consistent, but the effort I've seen in February and March (minus the MN game) has been great.

Yup, there's so many moving parts right now and over the next week. Bid stealers are always a worry. There's also a couple traditionally single team leagues, or smaller conferences, with multiple teams ahead of us in the NET. WCC Zags at 1, but also St. Mary's at 37. SoCon - Wofford at 14, and Furman at 43 MWC - Nevada at 20, and Utah St at 30 OVC - Belmont 44 and Murray St 48 ASUN only has one Libscomb 43, but they could still make it a loss in the CC. Same with Buffalo 16 in the MAC would easily make the dance if they lost in CC. AAC is not tiny, but they have 4 teams ahead of us. Then there's a ton of big conference teams that could play spoiler if they get on a run. MARCH MADNESS!

purely my opinion, but i don't think 1 win in the BTT is a lock. not saying we couldn't slide in, but i'd say to approach lock status, we need to win 2. otherwise, we're relying on help (other's losing).

thank you! so i think i'd rather have a crack at scUM since we swept MSU

not familiar with all the tie breaker info, but those three are all tied and UM plays MSU. PU split with MSU, so assume if MSU wins, it goes to TB. mind sharing how MSU wins the TB? Thanks in advance.

great win! only our second Q2 W of the season IIRC. now just beat Rutgers. looking more like we'll be 9 playing 8 (OSU) in the BTT. Then playing 1 (PU/MSU/UM). i'd love to get a crack at PU again.

good stuff. Florida going down at home helps. Seton Hall upsetting Marq didn't help. Georgetown getting spanked helps. NW up 10+ at half over OSU is good. ISU went down too, but guessing that doesn't matter. NCSt/GT early but close.

not saying we have to win the BTT at all. just the next two to be in the conversation. we can't lose to a **** team. we can lose to a good team.

we have to win the next two. anyone who thinks otherwise is pumping sunshine. we just got back into the bubble conversation with a win over a top 10 team. losing to one of the bottom teams kills us. if we win the next two, the BTT will be interesting as hell. day two start and big big game.

are you sure you're not looking at non-conference SoS (which is bad).Overall SoS is top 10 by most metrics.

lol. yup, but he did commit there. then tried SCar.

I know. But he goes to a prep in La Porte, where kids from all over go. La Porte is a border town, and La Lumiere is full of kids from N Indiana, Michigan, and IL (and all over). Brian Bowen went there, who attended Louisville. Jaren Jackson went there, who attended Michigan St. Stewart (same class) is going to Washington. Just saying it's similar to IMG where kids don't always have loyalty to in state schools. It's a BBall factory prep.

La Porte is a border town on the edge of the state. The folks up there can identify as much with IL or MI as they do with IN. Or, they can identify with more than one. So just because he's from IN, he may not be all that concerned with what IN folks think.

kids choose out of state schools all the time from their HS's. hope that's not the case.

we didn't make it on to ESPN's new bracetology bracket/bubble, but we are listed now on the bubble watch tab as "work to do" baby steps http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25923557/mid-majors-going-lose-out Indiana Hoosiers With still another thrilling win over Michigan State and a season sweep against the Spartans, Indiana is back in the bubble discussion. The Hoosiers can claim six Quad 1 wins on the year, and, while they also have suffered nine Quad 1 defeats, the high number of quality victories is sufficient for IU's profile to at least get a hearing "in the room" as they say. If (and it's no small if) Archie Miller's men win at Illinois and at home against Rutgers, they'll finish the season at 17-14 overall and 8-12 in the Big Ten. That could get the job done. (Updated: March 2)

With the new NET criteria, maybe we aren't what our record says we are :-)

Got to cheer for MN losses. All of them lol. It hurts to cheer for PU, but you have to if you're an IU fan. Hold your nose

St Johns is a strange one. They are behind us in NET, but "in" in just about every bracket projection I've seen. The loss is bad (DePaul sucks), but it's a road loss. I don't see them dropping as much as Iowa. But yes, regardless, good for IU. We need every team around us in NET rating to lose as much as possible.

No monopoly ever said "here's what's in our secret sauce" lol... In all seriousness, I think they'll keep it under wraps to avoid criticism of logic. and they might still be in tweaking phase. as it is with all selection committees that use a mix of algorithms and human judgement, they are already under the microscope. the more that's unknown, the more they can spin narrative to support their final output.

I just figure, most teams outside of the top 50, getting even a home Q1 win over a top 10 team (one with the best Q1 record in the nation), might be worth more than 4 spots. i mean how many teams outside of the top 50 get wins like that. i know i know, it's likely some algorithm that doesn't care :-)

Having everyone inside the top 100 is great for us. It's going to be really interesting the next couple weeks. I'm a big fan of the NET system. Makes it so much easier to follow and predict.

8 spots for a bad home loss (Q3) isn't that bad. thought IU would get more than a 4 spot bump for Q1 win. concerned about the bumps we'll get from IL and Rut should we win.

yup, agree. and thanks for the insight. I'd prefer they just create a formula and let the computer's spit something out. wherever humans play, you're going to end up with a mixed bag of personal criteria, and potential bias. and to have a small 10 person committee, especially with a KY AD, just gives me the shivers. There definitely will be some of those WTH moments, but hoping they stick to script/criteria as much as possible. i'm more concerned with what some of the other teams do that are slightly ahead of us in NET. And every bubble team needs to worry about small conference championships where a team ranked high in NET, get's upset by a crap team who takes an auto bid.

KPI is on the Team sheets. And doesn't KPI use conf record on their report? Not sure about the others, but I'm guessing the "various computer metrics" that they include (last bullet), some use/include conf stats. In short, even though "conf w-l" is not an official indicator, it's like asking a juror to ignore evidence thrown out on a technicality. if you see the defendant commit a murder on video, do you really ignore it when the judge tells you to throw it out? do you think the jury doesn't discuss it when behind closed doors?