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Would completely depend on pain and swelling.

I heard bone on bone contact. Bruised shin. Hurts like hell for a minute, then just stiff and sore until it heals.

IU 80 PSU 73

Did you see the play I'm referring to? Not comparable at all. Green's play was completely selfish. It was not a take. He dribbled into traffic, had chances to throw it out and didn't; and ultimately turned it over without really getting a look at the rim except to throw it in the general direction. Not the same thing. At all.

Phinisee will make plenty of special plays; and he's already made some (dump pass to Smith for the dunk, for example). He's clearly playing a very conservative style now; but he's got plenty of special. Kid has a 2:1 A/TO ratio, which is better than we've had at that position in a while. For the record, Green's ratio is 1.1: 1 for his career. Phinisee shooting 47% from the floor. Green 35%. (39% for his career) And Green is 1-12 from three point land this season..Phinisee 5-15. I'm really looking for a high ceiling in Green; but I just don't see it. 2 years and another 1/4th of a season in, Green is selfish, out of control, and very, very dumb sometimes (see the play yesterday when he made a great defensive play for a steal, and it looked like he thought "okay, I got it, now I get to shoot it," taking it to 3 players and turning it right back over. I promise not one person here was surprised.).

You have no info, so you speculate that we could be without him for a while. Why? Yes. Exactly. A blank obvious post with no substance. So why did you post it?

He's not Eric Gordon. Completely different player. Here's my answer to your question. He took the shot that won the game for us and got many plays going toward the rim. (You said he doesn't have a killer instinct. That play by itself should alleviate that comment) He played solid defense all day on one of their best scorers. He played 36 minutes, scored 20 points on 13 shots, grabbed 5 rebounds, made all of his FT's had a couple of steals and was clearly the go to at the end with our best senior out. Yet you said he's under-utilized...somehow cursed by The General. Why were you expecting Eric Gordon? Did you not see Langford play in high school? Completely different player. Gordon was more of a volume 3 point shooter than Romeo is and physically stronger and stockier. Langford so far is also a far better rebounder. Gordon also had to be the leading scorer on that IU team. Langford doesn't on this one; but he is still averaging 18. Gordon averaged 21. Langford has played 34 minutes+ in each of the last 5 games and been over 20 points 3 times in those games. He had (as the whole team did) a bad night against Duke. I get it. But if you don't see a killer instinct, especially after yesterday; like I said, you don't see what I see.

I want to know how you can make this comment without any information.

You don't see what I see.

Green may be the most frustrating player I can remember at Indiana. Great defensive play followed by a "well, I got the ball so Ima shoot it" play that had no chance. Just gave it back to them. Another bad pass here and there, accompanied by a nice "and 1" jumper....and a missed FT. The guy either hasn't learned much or hasn't been taught how to play. He still seems to rely completely on his athletic ability....and it's maddening. Moore's no good, fellas. He's also very weak.

I LOVE that they're there. I especially love that Romeo is there. It's been WAY too long since we got most of Indiana's top kids

I thought the black looked awful, but I think all black jerseys look awful except the Raiders.

I found out a long time ago that simply because a guy covers IU does not make him an expert on IU or sports or recruiting. God rest his soul, but it started with Ed Magoni and hasn't gotten a hell of a lot better. Dale Davis' kid is going to be a good get. Was always going to be a good get.

Agree with this. What I laugh about is getting crapped on for years for saying we needed to recruit from the inside out. NOI! Some said. It doesn't matter where kids are from. Yeah....if you get the right kids; it kinda' does matter. Especially if you can accentuate by going outside the state and get the BEST fits you can find instead of the Stanford Robinson's of the world. A great get for Indiana. He and Franklin battle tonight!

You answered your own question. That's our warmup font. Not our jersey font. Been that way for 45 years. I would also like to see it...I think. Maybe. But the answer to the question is "tradition."

Tradition. That's the answer. I know other blue bloods have made changes; but did anyone think Duke looked good in black? Script "Indiana" might look good, but we've used basically the same font since 1974.

Indiana 76 NW 62

McRobbie either realizes athletics is the world's window into the University or he doesn't. He is not responsible for athletics; but he IS responsible for the overall success of Indiana University; and without visibility, Indiana becomes nothing more than an academic institution chasing east coast money, losing a generation of fans, and living in the past. Success will come when we catch lightening in a bottle, but not consistently. As I have said for years, without men's basketball, Duke would be Elon.

How crazy so many people were when Darius Garland was making his decision? Out for season with a torn meniscus. At least our injuries aren't season ending (except maybe Hunter, who might benefit from a redshirt assuming he heals)

For what it's worth, my prediction was Duke 91 IU 71. I am actually rooting for THAT. Missed it by...that much.

He shouldn't be asked to do what he's doing and the other players have to move. It's not all on him. If Green were any good at all as a point guard, RP wouldn't have so much pressure on him. Same kid who played great against Marquette. Everything was off tonight...Phinisee was just one cog in that wheel.

We can't guard and we're tentative, but at least we can't make free throws. They're bigger than us, but we're slower than they are boys! Go get 'em!!

This is the worst, softest, and most tentative effort I have ever seen from an Indiana team in a big game.

Heck, that Indiana is playing in this game is a big deal. Again, recruits look at teams from a perspective of "what would they look like with ME," so results of a given game aren't as relevant as some may think. I hope all targets watch regardless of the outcome, and see a role for themselves. That and relationship with coaches is what sells a recruit on where to go (provided shoe companies and their influence aren't involved. But that never happens, right?)

Then we won't generate new supporters. IU is in football Purgatory. No good coach will use Indiana as a destination because there is a definite ceiling on how much Indiana can win. We're not going to get 4 and 5* recruits to compete with and beat OSU, Michigan, and PSU on a regular basis. We're just not. Foolish to think we will. So there's really no formula to succeed as Indiana in the Big Ten East beyond "going to a bowl." I know how defeatist that sounds, but it's reality. Indiana, Maryland, and Rutgers fight the most uphill battle in BCS college sports and it's not close.