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Green averages more than 5 TO's per 40 minutes. No thank you. He was better Saturday, but his "playmaking" is out of control most of the time, and between turnovers and bad shots, his bad has out-weighed his good. Green is a junior. I'm not sure he'll ever knock off the rust....or make changes. For the sake of a good discussion, what makes you think he'll be fine based on the 2.3 years worth of data we have on him? He's shooting basically the same FG% he did a year ago when he played 31 games. Turnovers and fouls per game have gone up each year while FG% has dropped each year. Worse on 3 pt FG's. Yes...he is averaging more APG, and that's great. I just see a mistake prone, out of control player who does as much to hurt the team as help it. He's all we have except Durham, and I get that too. So I'll hope with you; but I don't have a lot of faith in him. I expect bad plays from him. Never a good thing.

I say open up the competition. Penix showed some of what he can do when he's healthy. We know what Ramsey can do. Frankly? I'm very, very tired of words from the IU Football program. I'm tired of "if only." I'm tired of "what if?" I want results and there are no more excuses. There is a ceiling. Absolutely. But there's no reason Indiana can't win 6-7 games most of the time. I don't want to hear from the football program or writers how good he is. I don't want to hear what an upgrade he is. I want to see it. Plain and simple.

I'd prefer to leave Green on the bench and find someone else. Kid's 6th in minutes played; leads the team in turnovers. By far the lowest FG% on the team, total AND 3Pt%, and makes a lot of really senseless, brainless plays. For the good things he does, he gives them all back with the negative things (bad shots and TO's). Oh, and in 221 minutes so far this season, know how many offensive rebounds he has? Zero. None. He'll make a play or two to help sometimes; yes. But overall? No thanks.

McBob gone also. We need another guard assuming we get Brooks.

Was he? See? I don't remember. (or better said, I don't care) I had a talk with my son earlier today. He was having some personal problems (he's almost 13); and I told him regardless of how hard life seems sometimes, be thankful you're not a Purdue fan. He agreed.

You know, I have been thinking of this post for a while this morning. Looking at Purdue's bench and players yesterday; they are a completely different program than Indiana. They seem to want players with some chip on their shoulder for whatever reason. Kids who have been downtrodden or missed or passed over. "Scrappy" kids without elite ability but who "play hard." That can work if you assimilate the right group of kids; but players like Phinisee? Langford? Hunter? Davis? Brooks? Those kids will never go to Purdue. Have they had a McD's All American since Glen Robinson? (Perhaps they have; but I don't remember) From time to time, they'll get a group together that can compete and win in the Big Ten; but I just see them as a completely different animal than Indiana.

He ran onto the court with the rest of his team. Maybe he wasn't yet in the locker room when that celebration occurred? Talking to family or something? I wouldn't read much into it.

Found it!

If he can shoot that way, he's a combo; not a point. And at 6'4", playing he and RP together is more than reasonable.

Yeah. Bailey7878. Oddly quiet today. =)

I would bet I saw him more than you did. Had a better base of knowledge from which to work. I love the kid. The person. The player is obviously a huge win. The kid is even better.

Juwon Morgan took 21 shots. 14 FG's and 7 FT's. He made 19 of them.

Where have I heard this before......? Words...marked.

If anyone has a link to Fish's call of that shot, I'd be grateful for a share!

Phinisee : 9 points, 5 assists, 5 rebounds, 1 turnover, 1 steal

F*** ESPN for a lot of reasons.

I'd rather be lucky than good. Horrible possession, but I'm glad Green was in the game; otherwise Phinisee has the ball when Green does and never gets that shot. What a gutty 2nd half.

Archie needs an offense. Archie needs a junior point guard who doesn't turn the ball over about once every 3 minutes. Archie needs a team that can score with more than 2 players. Archie needs to understand what Evan Fitzner is and what he is not. Archie needs to get his own house in order. This offense is flat assed awful. And yes, DeVonte Green is a bad basketball player much of the time. Very low basketball IQ and a lazy defender. We need a guard in next season's recruiting class.

The one I find intriguing is Reggie Todd. A kid who originally went to Mississippi State, was arrested for getting into a fight (with another male), and ended up at Hinds C.C. Caught 14 balls as a freshman at MSU including a TD. 6'5" kid. Lots of potential. We get both he and Bell? Our offense is significantly upgraded immediately.

IU 91 UCA 64

You know, funny you should say that. I was just talking yesterday with a friend (coach) of mine and said the same thing...that he'll be a 4 year college kid. There's just something.....missing (?) from his game that may not afford him an NBA opportunity for a few years; and I can't put my finger on it. Yogi, for example, didn't have hyper-athletic ability, either. As a freshman, was a similar shooter. Phinisee is very athletic and explosive when he needs to be. I think that part of his game is under-rated. But hyper athletic he is not. Is that what's missing? Could be that... I also think he's a little too unselfish to be an early entry NBA guy. Not assertive enough, maybe? But he can handle the ball well enough. He is a developing shooter. He can guard. He can rebound. Hard to put a finger on it...but I agree absolutely he'll be around a while; and I love it. I said when he committed I wanted him as much or more than Romeo; and I am very proud to stand by that comment.

I would argue (and yeah, I know I'm biased because I flat love the kid) that Phinisee is damned close to a 5* guard. I also don't know that I want a 5* kid at that position who's a score first player. I don't think that's a winning recipe.

His improvement has been obvious and he's helped the team generally speaking. It does make me wonder about DaVonte Green, though.

I don't even begrudge Calipari. I don't dislike him. I have had 2 friends in coaching (one very recently) work with him and have nothing but great things to say about the man. I just don't want to put my energy behind a team and program that runs itself the way he runs his program. Not my cup of tea and I agree in large part with you on the "why."

I am. Calipari does things his way and I have no interest in doing things that way. Records be damned. I like the culture Indiana has developed over time; and Kentucky has become nothing but laundry. No thank you. I like where we are now vs. where we would have been had we hired Calipari. His way is his way and has been successful to a point. I get all of that, but it's not the way I want to see this program run.