Bigdaddy76

I was 10 years old in 75.....Cried my eyes out when we lost to the cheatin Cats. Watched the 76 undefeated team and have been hooked ever since. I used to watch all the games with my father until they got rid of RMK. My dad wouldn't watch anymore after that. When he did, he didn't like what he saw. I guess I am a throwback to the old days. I really hope that one day we get back to using Indiana kids. Play smart and disciplined, and most of all, play good solid defense. I like the high flyers and scoring as much as anyone. But when it comes to hanging banners, there is no substitute for good defense. 

Tom Crean decides to go elsewhere, and somone has enough sense and dollars to lure Stevens away from Boston.

Facebook posts! Can't remember who from though.

Uk,Arizona,Oklahoma,Iowa St  Upset city baby!

As many of you on here, I am very dissapointed in the current coach and his ability, or lack thereof. As I was sitting in traffic yesterday wondering about the fallout of a coaching change, a thought occured to me. As bad as I hate being an also ran program, I really think maybe the best thing to do is keep Tommy on for a couple more years. (No, that doesn't mean that I am gonna sopt complaining about him)  If IU makes a change now, it could be another setback of a few years. As has been well documented here. A good portion of us kind of want to see what Brad Stevens might be able to do with this program. Crean has already done as well as he is ever gonna do here, and Stevens probably won't leave Boston for at least 2 or 3 more years. That puts us at year 2017 to 2018 to have a real shot at landing Stevens and to have to put up with mediocre results. At that time, the minute Stevens is available, give him whatever he wants. AND, lets look best case scenario. MAYBE, just maybe Crean gets his act together and actually gets us to the tournament the next couple years. You could still get rid of him with very little resistance because, LETS BE HONEST! Just getting into the tournament is not getting it done at IU!  It would sure beat starting over YET AGAIN! 

I think that you are being a little short sighted. I believe that even the worst critic of Crean could and should realize that he actually has done a pretty good job with this team, save for a few instances. The starting of Harttman at center, and the way he has utilized the talent that he has this year with the shooters comes to mind. The problem with Crean is pretty much a mirror image of the problem with Mike Davis......We don't need a coach at Indiana that has to learn on the job. The coach at Indiana should be fully equipped to handle any situation with his coaching acumen. What we are faced with now, is the fact that Tommy has taken us absolutely as far as he ever will and that doesn't sit well with people when he is getting paid out of this world $ and a huge buyout. That goes diectly to Glass. He handcuffed us with this clown, and now we are paying for it. Crean did a great job cleaning and building the program back to its current level. Noone will argue that. But, he has proven time and again that he is not a great x's and o's coach. His resume was that he was an elite recruiter. Thats what he hung his hat on. Well, now we are seeing that is not the case as well. With no bigs in the coming class, and none waiting in the wings. Sadly, with all that said. Glass has hitched his horse to Tommy's wagon and it will not change. Glass is too arrogant to admit he made a mistake, and it will be his undoing. As fans all we can do is watch this trainwreck, because it is out of our hands. I always love my Hoosiers through thick and thin. But I am sorry, it is not being a bad fan to want to get back to being elite.  

I agree! Maybe the best post that I have ever seen on this forum. Kudos

All ya had to do was watch the game....Completely unprepared for the zone. Are you sure that you watch these games, or do you just like to argue. Not sure, but some of your comments are just unbelievable.

There is an old saying   The proof is in the pudding! I have seen enough well coached basketball over the years to realize that this guy is NOT the answer. Nice guy, yes...Players go to class, Yes....Does things the right way as far as recruiting, Yes. What he has shown is a way to be consistently mediocre and nothing more. I am positive that there is NO WAY that this guy does anything better than he has already done. I will back it up by saying this.......If Crean wins a National Championship, I will gladly never post on this Forum again. Maybe one of the mods can save this post. I REALLY want to be wrong about this, but I am that sure that it will NEVER happen under this coach.  

Just my opinion, but I would say we will be lucky to make the tournament again this year. Maybe the NIT. That D last nt., or lack thereof has to be the worst effort in a long time. I think Wisky shot like 70% for the game. I do agree, that on a given nt. when they are hitting threes that they can upset some teams. Just not sure they can shoot well enough to do it on a consistent basis. I hope I am wrong, I hate only rooting for underdogs in the dance because my team didn't make it.

If you want Crean gone, all it boils down to is this....Stop showing up for games and stop watching them on tv. This is the only way its going to happen. We can bi#$% and moan all we want, but the truth is, as long as people keep showing up, he is gonna be there. Glass is too arrogant to admit he made a huge mistake, and too stupid to hire a new coach that is worth anything. Might as well ride this out, its gonna be a bumpy one.  

Its really more about consistency. When RMK was here, the fanbase knew that for the most part we would be competitive in every game that we played in and have a chance to win at the end of each game. Every 4 to 5 years we were competing for a Nat Ch. because he was able to recruit at least on McD every year. This stuff of sweet 16, and then not even making the NIT would NEVER happen under RMK. I am sure that IU should be able to find a candidate to be able to accomplish this. Just not sure Glass or this admin. are the right people to do the hiring of such a coach. 

I posted something very similar to "best team $ can buy to a friend on facebook. She is an IU alum, hubby is a UK fan. He had her unfriend or block me. I laughed and laughed because you can tell that they "UK Peeps" can't stand the truth. Can not wait till Cal leaves, cause thats when crap hits the fan at all these schools that he has coached before. Its funny to me how everywhere else in the country players leave when they are 1st rounders. Oh but not at UK, they can't afford the pay cut! 

If someone has posted this already, I appologize. Against a 2/3 zone. How hard would it be to let Troy flash to the middle? From there, he shots a fifteen footer, he drives, or the D collapses and he dishes, and with the shooters that we have, its a made 3. Its just that simple! But apparently, our esteemed leader can't seem to figure that out. It is so friggin frustrating to sit here and watch the same stupid offensive sets be ran time after time. Its basic basketball.  

Been kicking this around for a few days. Thought I would see what ya'll think. Is it possible that Tom Crean has been recruiting the wrong types of players. I mean, we all like to get the 4 and 5 star guys, but to date, CTC seems to have had much better success with the 2 to 3 star guys. Oladipo, Shehee, Wade and now it seems that Holt and Johnson are starting to shine. Although I think Johnson was a 4 star, if memory serves. I think it may be possible that the 4 and 5 star guys don't wanna listen to him. Whereas the lower tiered guys actually are willing to work to get better. Face it, we all know what most of the big name guys are about anyways. Its all NBA, and how much of this do I have to put up with before I am gone. Maybe I am way off base here, but time will tell.  

Yes I agree with you. I always want the best players possible. But what I was trying to say is that maybe Crean does a better job with players that he develops, rather than some that already have elite skill. I'll take all the 5 stars you can give me please, with a side of a couple 4's that need a little work. haha 

I would agree a little. But look at the 4's that haven't worked out or were very average. Elston, Hollowell, Fisher, Robinson, HMP, Williams, IMHO is still up in the air, and Creek, due to injury. So he is off the table. That only leaves 4 of the 4 stars that had an impact. So maybe those other guys were just over rated coming out of H.S. You got 6 of the 3 stars that have contributed more than most people would think. That only leaves 4 of the 3 stars and 2 transfers. So it almost seems like Crean is able to communicate with the lower star players better. In the meantime HMP is starting to play better now too with minutes. So maybe it will all work out in the end....I sure hope so.

I guess living out of the state for so long has desensitized me. I always root for Butler, Ball St., Indiana St., Valpo....all the Indiana teams EXCEPT for Purwho.  Banner Up!

Bailey Alford May Cheaney Benson...My starting 5 with Patterson off the bench : )

I gotta say that I was very impressed by him the last game. He has really good, soft hands, and able to catch it in traffic. Not sure about ya'll, but I sure didn't see this coming after getting him so late in the recruiting process. I know that its only 1 game, but he looks like he could really help this team. Not just this year, but in the future. 

I agree on Garrett. But wasn't Henderson really a 4? And again Garrett was a JUCO right? I am not saying RMK didn't have any good post players. It just seems to me that everyone used to get upset that we didn't have a dominant center back then too. That being said. The days of Ewing, Sampson, and Jabbar are over with in college bball anyways. Those players are the likes of what those teams had to contend with. It seems that all the NEW style centers are Kevin Garnett type players. I know we talk about all the bigs that Gonzaga gets, but how many of those guys have gone on to have big NBA careers? 

Just a thought. Other than Benson, and Tolbert, I don't really recall a dominant IU big man in Knights system. It seems to me that was the knock on him also, and he won a heck of a lot of games. Don't get me wrong, he had a few over the years. But no lottery picks or anything that I can remember. Blab? Collier transferred, Haston was pretty good! Daryl Thomas was undersized center. Maybe I am missing someone. I have to agree with a lot on here. I was not and have not been happy with all of Crean's coaching...playcalling, philosophy, etc. But I relly want this program to have a great year. Go Hoosiers! 

Jack Daniels and Coke is my drink of choice...But for most IU games its just Diet Coke. Unless its a weekend game. Too old to drink through the week. HAHA

I think that the Notre Dame comparison makes the most sense. But ya gotta be real careful with that. Most people think that Notre Dame fans are HIGHLY irrational about the prospects of that team every year. It would be very hard for me to beleive that IU's best days as a power program are past us. Or maybe I am being too optimistic. It really seems to me that this administration is really concerned with having ANY coach have a huge shadow such as RMK had for so many years. Just seems a little too obvious to me with the hires that they have made so far. Its almost like they have went out of there way to NOT hire a big name coach, or someone with a previous tie to the school and its traditions.  

I'm a little older, but for me, Lawrence Funderburk comes to mind. He was supposed to be a beast in that recruiting class, but it never materialized. I think he went to Ohio St. after that if memory serves. Had an ok career there. I agree on Hollowell too. A lot of potential, but no gold. Ivan Renko was another that really never materialized! haha Literally!