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For some reason I read “Winston” and thought “Winston Morgan”....lol

I know this is a negativity thread...but I honestly think next years team will be better. The young trio of Hunter, Race, TJD could be pretty compelling on the floor together... Brunk and Smith for depth...Geronimo for energy..new blood at guard- Leal/Galloway. Experience with Rob, Al, Franklin...I know our guards have been pitiful since forever...but all they have to be is decent..ya never know..

anyone know off the top of their heads what’s IUs worst seeding ever..?

Anything sub-20 wins I always assume will be solid bubble (oxymoron?) territory. This year does have a lot of parity though, especially within the B1G.

UM 74 IU 60

What do we think, a realistic best case scenario for this team seems like to win out at home and lose all road games which would put us at 19-12 going into BTT..? Not a great record..

I’m almost speechless. F****n whatever Indiana...fine. At least as a fan I got the 80s and early 90s to remember. That’s enough I guess. Most fanbases don’t even get that, so... Glad Knight came back. That was emotional as hell. Great to see the former players get to reunite with coach in front of the fans. Happy for them.

If IU can’t turn it around at home against Purdont in front of a rabid crowd w/ Bobby in the building...then I just don’t know...

“It’s Archie” is too convenient for me to buy. Is it partially him? Of course. Everything isn’t him though. No offense to the “kids” who play on this team, but we have really bad guards. None of them are any good. They just aren’t. Green has the most talent and fire but it comes with emotionality (bad kind) and lack of team concepts. Part of that I do believe is that his teammates are so bad and he can’t accept (for better or worse) a team concept when everyone around him is inept. Rob and Durham are pretty poor guards. Sure they’ll have a good game once every 2-3 weeks but when you have the ball in your hands all the time, that’s bound to happen. Rob is herky jerky and has zero leadership, confidence, etc...Durham has confidence but no one thinks he is worth listening to on the floor. He doesn’t exude respect because he isn’t very good. Franklin is far superior physically and talent wise, and he knows it. That’s the problem. Our upperclassmen aren’t good enough or confident enough to lead any freshmen. The coach can only do so much. Archie needs to somehow recruit better. That will solve a lot. The vast majority of teams don’t have the players to be good. I’m sure lots of those programs have fine coaches. It isn’t that KU has a coach that is 50x better than 95% of the other schools in the country, it’s because KU (just as an example) gets 3-4 players every year that are just better than 95% of the other programs. A lot of programs get 1 or even 2 great players every year or every other year. To be consistently good in D1 you need 2-3 highly talented recruits per year. IU most years gets only 1: TJD, Blackmon, Vonleh, Romeo. That ain’t enough. TJD, Race, Hunter, Franklin, Brunk are a solid core. Everyone else is just not very good at what they are supposed to do. TJD may not be here much longer but I digress. IU gonna keep being bad to mediocre until Archie can convince 1-2 talented/tough guards to come to IU every year. If that doesn’t happen, IU will forever be like this. It happened under Crean. How many good guards did he have in 9 years? Oladipo and Yogi...that’s really it..and we know how Crean fared... I want a superior magical coach too, but great players make coaches look great most of the time. It’s a snowball effect. If Coach K started suddenly getting 3-4 star players only, he would abruptly stop having 30 win seasons. just my opinion.

This is 100% correct. IU has pissed on its greatest athletic program for 20 years now. But that's another thread...

Arkansas is not a very good team. This loss hurts. Almost no touches in the paint in the 2nd half had me screaming at the TV. Let them double team TJD then pass it back out. Maybe some baseline action? Alley-oops? Pick n roll? There had to have been something the coaching staff could have drawn up to get TJD/Smith some decent looks. Green chucking up 3s is so old and lazy. Anyways....my initial reaction to this game was "ARCHIE IS THE WORST", etc....and that may be the case, but I'm still waiting on next year for better (hopefully) shooters- Leal, Galloway. This loss really sucks and potentially hurts our post-season hopes, because I'd be shocked if we are .500 in conference games. Not sure what else to say about this coach, team, and program.

I'm just saying, if we played Davis and made it a priority to feed him the ball when he was in, he could really help us.

Davis saved our butts @ MSU last year with his tough inside play. Sure, he has limitations, but it would be nice to see him play 15-20 min and throw him the ball when he's in there. He is a good offensive post player, which we don't actually have other than him.

We need leaders. Davis is the closest thing to a leader we have and he doesn't play. Go figure.

If we win the 2nd half, that would be at least something positive.

Sure would be nice to see Archie empty the bench and/or have a meme-worthy postgame interview. But alas, it won't be that inspiring of a defeat.

I’m excited that we have depth in the forward/center position. Finally, we have 3-4 guys who are not undersized and/or hapless. Davis, Brunk and TJD is a very good core. Justin and Race are solid backups as well. Expectations all around seem to be tempered and rightly so. But I think this team can be more than solid and a tourney team if the culture in the locker room is good. We have a tough/good coach imo and a solid team. Looking forward to a step forward this year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I wouldn’t be surprised to see De’Ron be the leading scorer if he’s finally able to be healthy and play 25 min/game. He will still be our best option for pure post offense. He’s a real veteran now. Inside/out w/ Rob & Green will only help him get more looks. I mean who knows. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

We’ll be above .500 in B1G and make the tourney. Starting 5 come B1G season: Brunk Davis Al Green Rob Leading scorer will be Davis. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Doesn’t appear Archie is getting any grand slam recruiting victories to finish out 2019 or 2020. I think he’s going to be on a warm seat if we miss the tournament again next year. Dude needs some shooters ASAP. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

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IU is soft. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Which opinion are you referencing? Romeo sliding to the 8-15 range is common knowledge, as is Watford’s tepid recruitment. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Kid would be a player here..seems like Archie’s kind of guy- tough, smart, strong. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners