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I haven’t watched a second of him play live, only highlights and he doesn’t look like a 2 to me. MVA is weird in that they are so ludicrously loaded this year there really isn’t anywhere else to play him. His length and being a freak in HS allows him to guard a 2. It’s less his offense, more about guarding B1G caliber 2 guards. Not saying he can’t, I don’t know, that’s just my read. Mack is a good example, his length and size against average high school players would make up for lack of quickness— that’s been exposed at the D1 level.

100% except the problem is they play the same position sort of, except MM is more of a four. LM and MM at the 3 and 4? REALLY EXCITING…. But, and this is the huge but, do you believe with Malik entrenched and the obvious need for rim protection that would happen consistently? Because I don’t. Then, we end up where we are again playing someone out of position, but instead of Gallo at the 1 it’s LM at the 2. The overall roster construction just has so many issues, then it gets exacerbated by needing to play two centers because Malik would foul out in 10 minutes consistently playing the 5.

Except they are mortgaging the programs future. Unless this works (I’ll go on record saying it won’t), this could crater us from a personnel standpoint for the next hire. It is a risk our program cannot take— and as I mentioned earlier there is already an example with a far better coach— Arkansas, and it hasn’t worked but Muss is also still committed to HS recruiting. We have 24 years of mostly mediocre or bad basketball and we are leveraging an attempt at a new style of portal free agency. It’s risky at best, unconscionable neglect at worst.

Part of recruiting now is also building relationships for future chances at the portal. Not all the kids are moving up from lower levels. I have no doubt having his job secured now that the lack of HS recruiting is now going to slow to trickle. Woody and his plan have been validated by the money people. It is so short sighted it’s almost shameful. Money is not the only factor in portal recruiting, and we are treating as such now. Mark my words I have a feeling we are in for a rude awakening in the portal too. I actually have serious concerns about even fielding a full team of high major level players. We left a flipping scholarship unused this year.

This is insanity.

Is it at all possible that the administration knows and is in some way aware that the likely dumpster fire next season makes it easier to fire him? With some of what’s leaking about the players, it’s really within the realm of possibility that next season could be epically bad. Like last place in the B1G and ten wins bad. Maybe they simply don’t believe the narrative right now would look good moving on after 3 years with a former player. I’m generally not prone to conspiracy but I am trying to weigh how on earth they could think they are acting in the best interests of the program. I remember the whole “no one bigger than program” nonsense after RMK, and right now it feels like Woody is bigger than the program.

Gallo in particular is going to garner huge interest and probably big NIL offers to leave. I would not be surprised at all if saw him in say a Kansas or UCONN jersey next year in a 6th man role.

And now he seemingly feels entitled to the best players from the portal. Despite whiffing on every guard we pursued last season. I’ll be shocked if there isn’t at least one departure we don’t expect in addition to the ones we do. Arkansas is a perfect example. They went portal heavy as a technique and they suck. And Mussleman is light years ahead of woody as a coach.

I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that farce of showing up to sectionals a day after getting killed in the media was the first time Woody had watched Mullins in person.

I’m just waiting for Kenny Payne to get fired and then hired by Woody. That’s rock bottom for me. Watch him be the “GM”. I would almost laugh if it wasn’t so possible.

This is insantity. WE HAD ONE WHO WENT TO TWO FINAL FOURS AND WOODY DIDNT USE HIM. Sorry for shouting lol, this whole GM thing makes me angry.

I love AC but holy cow. Just watched the first 15 minutes of the post game and had to turn it off. Jerod smiling like we just won the B1G while proudly professing “the win gives a sole possession of 8th place!” Was nauseating. Thats the state of the program. Excited for sole possession of 8th place. It’s amazing it took this many data points for my dumba** to realize we are not the program we as the consumer see it.

Same, I am not a rich man, but I donate what I can. Anything that could be used for basketball is done. It’s a petty and small protest, but it’s what I can do since running for BOT isn’t an option lol

I get what you’re saying but that also discounts the fundamental differences in the positions. The head coach of Indiana Basketball has zero inherent deterrents to success. Every opportunity to succeed both monetarily and talent wise. You almost have to try to not succeed at a place like IU (read: lazy recruiting, archaic scheme, etc). The football program has none of the built in advantages of BBall. We have never gotten a 5 star recruit in football. Not one, zero. We routinely get 1-3 4 star recruits at most every recruiting cycle. And there are 80ish kids on scholarship. So yes I will agree he has the basketball program better off, but that only shows a small part of the picture.

Don’t come here with jokes, we are wallowing!

We have 6 seasons since 1990 with 25+ wins. Remove Crean and we have 3. 3. Kansas? 12 since 2010. UNC? 8 since 2010. Duke? 12 since 2010. Kentucky? 8 since 2010. My point here is we aren’t a blue blood, and I am done thinking we are. If the administration wants to treat IU basketball like a run of the mill program, so be it. That’s the fandom they can have. It would probably be better for my blood pressure anyways.

Or we could be navigating the weakest part of our schedule. Wisconsin is our only win against a tournament team. And they’ve managed to drop from a projected 4 seed to an 8 since January.

A losing record in what might be the worst B1G in my lifetime. Purdue has a legit shot at a FF or NC and we have more Woody. We are not serious.

I lurk a lot of other boards and the general consensus is joy amongst our rivals. Purdue people are doing cartwheels since they will own recruiting in Indiana for the next 3-4 years because of it. Let that sink in.

At the end of a season already in the toilet. Your apparent acceptance of mediocrity is a microcosm of why we are what we are. Coming here to gloat over a team that’s a couple games over .500 by beating bad teams is laughable.

Woody owes KW his paycheck for next year. Without Ware we are under .500 right now.

That would take some self awareness. He will probably think they are booing Martha.

I asked the same question a few pages back, she answered, graciously I might add given my snark. Might have to dig a little but you will see it.

If that’s true about Dolson, it pretty much confirms everything us plebes think about the program. If the important people are shocked at empty seats they truly don’t deserve the fan base. Sooner or later, even *gasp* Indiana fans are going to stop watching bad basketball. The hubris and entitlement around our program is absurd. We are not inevitable. Sell outs are not assured. Fam support can wane. The basketball program has been profiting off of RMK for 50 years. It will end, even if slowly and painfully. This is just another step in that direction.

I’m not trying to be too hyperbolic, but not taking your alumnus is how Ohio State ended up with RMK being our legendary coach. It would almost be serendipity if Dusty went there and proceeded to win huge and not leave. Oof, just made myself throw up in mouth a little.