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Weird to say this, but almost happy I could not watch that game today. At this point in the search, as long as it isn't Brownwell or Turgeion I am just gonna be happy it isn't Woody. Coaches aren't leaving good programs they have rolling for other programs. It is what it is. I just want a college basketball coach. Give me McCollum and lets win basketball games again. Or lets all meet back here in 2029. So tired of expecting losses.

Thread was manic AF today lol, bad day to be in meetings. Musings: Real estate is much more entertaining than flights, more gifs I’m too stupid to interpret, and if Marc Turgerion is hired I am going to be big mad online. //SIGNED// O.

I don't think anyone would have to say "Hey Chris this is about Bradley Stevens" to understand that the level of money and tradecraft involved would only apply to one candidate lol. You wouldn't have to be a rocket surgeon to connect those dots from a source without naming names. And I say this as someone who thinks the Stevens ship probably sailed, but obviously something around the IU bubble is still fishy related to this hire. Whether that is Stevens or someone else who knows.

I'd be more shocked than I was when we hired Woody if we hired someone on an active show cause. That said, I care precisely none about financial silliness and paying players. I would take Wade, but I would put the chances at less than zero.

UO-72 IU-67

Wish Hova could provide the eyeballs emoji to that piece of news…

I dunno, depends a lot on if Brownell can recruit at the level necessary here, I expect NIL to assist there. While I would absolutely hate making that hire versus taking a swing on Huss or McCollum I can confidently say Brownell would have won more games and not been blown out by anyone with this roster. Without NIL Woody would have been Kenny Payne. He’s a terrible basketball coach. Brownell is not. That’s the only thing keeping me off the ledge if that’s where this goes.

Yea I have an incredibly hard time believing BS has been contemplating this job for four weeks to just now decide he’s out. My completely uninformed guess is we made an offer, he said no within a week or less and we’ve been working others since. It’s been fun though to get through the work day imagining it’s Stevens lol.

The LaLu piece is interesting when compared to McCollum. Huss would know seriously high level recruiting intimately. Although I think the “all the other stuff” arguments are way overblown. Ultimately it’s about coaching and winning basketball games. The other stuff is secondary to that imo and will work itself out no matter who gets hired.

There is a flight to Iowa. Not Des Moines but Iowa nonetheless.

I’ll be so disappointed if we hire Collins. Maybe he’d be great, but there’s just no getting excited about someone who has lost 70% of their conference games for me. I dgaf where they are coaching. Yea, he’s got three tourneys which is all of them for NW. Two of those are Boo Buie. Before Boo walked through the door his seat was warm if not hot. Give me Brownell if we are making the scared money hire.

Saw all the pages and got excited, pretty lackluster catch up. And for the record, it’s pronounced, gif.

Moving on from McCollum already??!! We are DOOMED

To be fair hiring Scott Frost and hiring Mike Woodson are not remotely similar. Nebraska is yearning for a level of dominance that simply isn’t possible. We just wanna be mostly in the top-25 and not suck lol

Appreciate you filling our hyperbole doomsday void until Hornsby turns the internet on in his fallout shelter.

Again it depends on your definition of “better.” Is Collins or Brownell “better” because they’ve been mediocre to bad at the P5 level? I don’t doubt we could have either of them tomorrow. Beard isn’t coming. Stevens, Pearl, Drew, TJO et. al. Have never probably been more than pipe dreams. Mark Pope was like the fifth guy on the UK list. I don’t even know about Kelsey, and both of those schools have won a natty this millennium. Our NIL is attractive, but the fact is coaches jumping P5 jobs is rare now. That’s just the reality of the market, it isn’t unique to IU.

He also set the Drake wins record by 2 in year one at a school he had to win 29+ to do it. I was skeptical, but all you have to do is actually watch them play. The guy can flat coach basketball.

Pretty much no coach making their first jump to P5 does. Woodson landed three decent recruits in four years (and calling Tucker ‘decent’ might be a stretch). McNeeley wasn’t committed to IU because Woody puts shooters in the NBA. Not sure this argument works for Woody specifically, but it’s valid when talking about coaches who are actually good. That said money talks now. No high level kids are taking less money to transfer to Self or Oats or commit to Cal. Dickinson didn’t go to Kansas to play for a legend. He went for 2 million dollars, maybe TJD and Ware had an impact on Ballos decision. I’d wager it was more about we were willing to pay more than UNC or anyone else on the market. It’s a completely different landscape now.

Great point. Also if he makes a run to the Sweet Sixteen or better, he’s going to be the hottest name on the market at the mid major level.

Agree 100%, that’s where Dolson comes to play I think. Surround him with experience, particularly with high major recruiting and roster building. I will say I’m not as concerned about it as I would have been 5-6 years ago. We can pay, I expect us to exploit it. If Woody can get 5 million to roster build and not recruit. I can’t imagine the funds that would flow in for someone averaging 25 wins a year. “Why should I play for you coach?” McCollum-“Well I win 80% of my games, but also IU will pay you an extra 100k over your best offer.”

I’ve really warmed to McCollum after watching their last 6 games or so, I think slow offense has us all getting flashbacks of Archie and pounding it inside over and over with MW. The Drake offensive movement is very pleasing and almost always leads to a good look. I also would expect Dolson to surround him with the people needed to make a transition like this. Hell, he tried for Woody who ran them off. I’m sure McCollum knows where he needs help adjusting and I would trust Dolson to make it happen. I’d be pretty excited to see who the assistants/GM would be with that hire.

It’s Mark Few.

The Manhattan Hoosier Project.

This is what I keep coming back to. This isn’t firing little Archie after four seasons and no tournament appearances. This is firing a program legend, and RMK favorite with what looks like 3/4 tourney seasons (fools gold of course, but on paper it is what it is). Dolson isn’t firing Mike Woodson to turn around and hire Brad Brownell. I’m firmly in the camp he takes a shot on a mid major with an unknown ceiling before retreading an average at best P5 guy.