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That’s fair, but I would argue had he turned it around, made the tournament in year 3 instead having almost an identical season, the pitchforks would have been put away. I’d also argue there is basically zero scenario where IU should lose 12/13 games in basketball. Ever. Archie is responsible for making that bed, not the fanbase.

I don’t think that’s being entirely fair to the Archie hire. That was pretty universally thought to be a home run. His Alma mater was also open or going to open (I don’t remember exactly) but they were big mad we got him. It didn’t work, it happens, but acting like that was taking a flyer on some D2 coach at his first low major job is revisionist history.

That’s simply not true, repeating the same 2-3 year claim doesn’t make it so. Many of us, myself included had said all of last season if Woody had any momentum, had landed Fland, kept Liam and maybe Queen he would have deserved a fourth season. He didn’t, lost his only recruit, and seemed completely disinterested in doing what is required to win games in college. It wasn’t simply results. And although the writing was on the wall almost immediately, we were also lead to believe Woody was supposed to be a shorter term bridge to the permanent guy. No one was calling for his head after 2 seasons despite that. That said, after the last eight years I agree McCollum runs a system we probably wouldn’t like, but the guy wins a ton of basketball games. I didn’t like ArchieBall but believed (incorrectly) if he won big like Bennet, who cares if it’s like watching paint dry. And for the record I looked it up, there’s only about 60 coaches in all of division 1 that have been at their schools for ten years or longer. 240ish other schools have turned over coaches since 2015. We are not some weird anomaly for firing coaches that don’t win basketball games.

Yikes.

Asking the important questions. Finally.

Sitting at work secretly hoping for a Cashy pop in to push us over 2k today. I suspect we get close either way, but if we get a procedural update on current groundswell conditions within the leadership apparatus it’s all but guaranteed.

I think you mentioned it in the game thread, but this was another one where I really felt so bad for the players. Clear from the jump we didn’t formulate a gameplan to limit what Wisco does well, and you could see in their faces and they knew it. This game was over before it started.

Leaving in starters and watching them press and play defense against Wisconsin walk-ons to try and close the gap tells you everything about the sorry state of our program. We’ve made jokes about garbage time Leal, but I think last night was the first time I’ve noticed a clear, concerted effort to try and limit the negative optics in that fashion. I rewatched it and Gard emptied his bench at 1:17. Five of his players logged 1 minute played. It was clear in the huddle they looked around and said to each other “we have to close this gap and not lose by 15 again.” This was not “playing to the final whistle” this was different. This was desperation. We scored 6 points in the last 70 seconds. And 5 of those in the last :22. We’ve had a lot of embarrassing moments over the Mike Woodson experience, but watching that was rock bottom for me as a fan. Anyways, sorry for the rant, that just really irked me. TL;DR: We suck. Fire Mike Woodson.

Making games look closer than they were with rotation and starters in against walk-ons is practically trade marked at this point.

Its Leal 3 to close the gap time now.

If they do not end this before Michigan not only are we unserious, no one cares for Woody either. I do not wanna hear from burners about fan treatment when the administration is responsible for letting this farce continue. FIRE MIKE WOODSON YESTERDAY.

Why is Gallo bouncing it to Ballo's knees? This is fundamentals. Fifth year senior, ffs.

Fouling a guy who shoots 93% from the line on a three is definitely not in the scout...I think.

Reneau wanted to flex so bad there but remembered we are down 20 lol

Tucker has played well.

Did that announcer just basically call Leal unathletic and vertically challenged? lol

My big takeaway here is that Wisconsin having their court sponsored by Culver's is making me want to doordash some cheese curds and burger.

If only this was a month that ended in R not Y

MOTHER OF PEARL NO TWO BIGS@!

If we start two bigs I am going to be big mad online.

Michigan is going to shoot 50 threes against us. Four years of this defense and MW cannot make the connection to early 2000s NBA and modern basketball. Mike Woodson basketball has been the definition of insanity. Ridiculous.

Not a bad effort last 8 minutes. Maybe we can make a run after half and close it to respectable. Really do not wanna see one of our patented second half 5 minute droughts.

Looked like a good block

Tucker thought he was Kobe there for a second I think.

Gallo has been playing better of late.