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Honestly I would welcome it so we could definitively put an end to the Stevens chapter once and for all. Until we get something more direct, or smoke starts to leak that Dolson has been told no by him, there will always be a glimmer of hope regardless of how small. I truly believe what we are seeing is that Dolson has not been told no, or if he has, he has kept it really close to the vest (which would make very little sense not to want leaked imo). Because of this none of our insiders have heard anything to corroborate the Goodman quote and have almost to a person remained in at least the ‘maybe’ category for BS. None of that is to say I think the chances of him actually coaching here are very high, but until something clearly shows he’s out and we’ve moved on it is difficult for me to not at least wonder if it’s happening.

I’m fully expecting someone new to pop in sometime after lunch with a new completely bonkers option. My money has been on someone pushing Shrewsberry for a few days, just waiting for that to come to fruition. Surprised it’s taken so long to be honest. Expecting big things from the Friday news dump.

This is a good take. There are really only two conclusions to be had. Either exactly what you said, or the search went completely off the rails after Dusty was a no and they are keeping that quiet. I tend to believe (hope) you’re correct versus option two.

We’ve gotten basically nothing since Brad woke up on Valentines Day and his first thought was “ya know what would make this Valentines Day really special? A nice chat with my buddy Jeff Goodman about college openings.” Seems totally legit if you ask me.

For me I also don’t think it could reasonably get worse. It’d simply be really bad luck to miss completely and find someone worse than Woody and Archie. We haven’t been awful under Woody, so the program is in decent shape and we have all the institutional resources to be good, so I feel good about it for the most. There are certainly names that would be underwhelming, but anyone committed to actually doing the work necessary to be a college coach will be a breath of fresh air after Woody.

Getting caught up and seeing that Mark Turgeon has done the impossible and united everyone in agreement was really beautiful. Maybe dmv was just trying to remind everyone to find common ground, be better to each other, and remember this coaching search could end up being a total disaster. Or maybe not lol

I’d also point out he’s been HC of basketball at an unprecedented time to be at Clemson, massive upswing in out of state applications and national TV exposure. Clemson was a pretty regional school in upstate SC before Dabo came along. Clemson is decidedly cool now, and has been for a while. All those other cats were recruiting to place where people outside SC and about 20 counties in northern GA would have asked where and what the hell Clempson was. Also LittleJohn Coliseum is pretty cool, and gets nice student and alumni support now (I catch a couple games every year). Not saying he’s underachieved or anything, but Clemson basketball really has potential I don’t think it has realized under BB. Up until last seasons run, his seat was certainly warm, many around here are ready for a fresh face. Also for the record, Dabos whole shtick is not shtick. He’s very nice and country as a turnip green.

I am always amazed by how many people think we are some small school with limited resources, it is baffling. Particularly when it came to football. It had nothing to do with could we spend like we wanted a seat at the big boy table, it was always would we. I have had several people this year shocked, then laughing at our record when they hear how much this roster cost.

There is only one correct answer to this and it is the photoshop @Ghost of Rick Majerus did a bunch of pages back with large head brad in a red sweater.

Jokes on you, I know the Zrnos.

Hey, some common ground! I really do not see how you can put TJO ahead of SD if Drew is an option. Few I would maybe get since the Zags schedule pretty aggressively in the non-con which he always seems to do well, and he has a couple final fours.

If those are the options my order would be Drew, Few, Otz. Drew and Few are in a different level of no-brainer. Otz is no-brainer lite. And the gap between Drew/Few and Otz would be pretty wide for me. That just being extra elitist though if these are the three options.

Assistant to the regional manager of IU possibly?

The interest is Mark Tugeron wants to coach again, no one wants to hire Mark Turgeron, and being mentioned in the same sentence as the open IU job is good for Mark Turgeron.

I think it depends which school of thought you want to believe. If Dolson has his guy, or options of guys not named Bradley, they're going to be playing basketball still. Likely beyond when IU is not. If the coach isn't currently coaching I would expect an announcement within 48 hours of our season being over. I think that will be the lynchpin here. If we do not get an announcement soon after our season, and the tournament is (presumably, unless we win the whole thing lol) still being played I would expect delays with a whole lotta smoke and rumors flying. My guess, probably close to bullet 4. It is going to be a long few weeks.

Still more likely than Turgeron lol

I think this is my read on it as well if being realistic about Stevens. Maybe it is BS, likely is not. But the quiet around it seems to point to Dolson knowing he has options who will take the job that meet the search criteria without off the court issues. This is a positive thing if true in that Dolson didn't get too far down the list. I think the field also narrows when those factors are input to guys we would probably all generally be pretty happy with. It is hard to look at our job, the revenue sharing, proven NIL, fan support, and not think this search could certainly play out differently than the UK or UL searches (just an easy example of schools that got deeper into the wish list so to speak).

I can't remember who said it earlier(Edit, credit: @Old Friend), so apologies to that person, but this really feels like the first unobstructed coaching search in my lifetime where IU is in decent shape. I assume Crean was not forced or hired via coercion from boosters, but rather someone who wanted the challenge of a program that had committed seppuku. After nailing the Cignetti hire, I agree with you. Personally just have worries due to basketball being mismanaged at IU basically my entire adult life.

Thanks for sharing, nice update to what is going on. The silence really is interesting. Seems like only a couple of agents are out there trying to get raises, and most of those seem like 0% chance type of guys. Really sounds like Goodman is the only person who has heard something resembling a no from Brad, but the not a candidate statement gets more interesting if Dolson already had someone on the hook not named Stevens. That would make the statement 100% accurate, but would be strange to happen so quickly-- seems to me it could only be 'true' in that sense if Brad had turned down the job a while ago (like prior to Woody getting refired) and Dolson moved on. Coach szn is fun.

Stevens is going to be the only guy left on my list if these losses keep piling up for the hot board.

Which is equally lame.

I did not have two Jonah Hill gifs in the same day on my bingo card for today, but I support it.

I think its less about slush fund per se, but parlaying it for access to the athletic department in general that those two dorks would never otherwise have or be able to afford. That was always the part I didn't care for. Yea they're "helping" student athletes, but I would bet on a lie detector it was more about two fans wanting to rub elbows above their paygrade so to speak. JMO

I am probably a softie but I also feel for the kid. He came here thinking he'd be in the NBA by now. He has been put in a terrible position to get better or showcase what he is good at. There have been flashes sure, but playing him at the 3 has been criminal for development at both ends. I cannot really name one thing he looks better at now than when he was a frosh. I am not trying to justify his behavior (whatever it is, I have no idea) but this two years at IU could not have been worse for his basketball stock both transfer (NIL) or professional. His head has to be all over the place.

Entirely valid, but it was so forceful last time it seems odd to me that it essentially was hand waving the job. And I am pretty confident Chris and others will hear if Brad is a no to Dolson, there is no logical reason that info doesn't leak out imo.