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For me I also don’t think it could reasonably get worse. It’d simply be really bad luck to miss completely and find someone worse than Woody and Archie. We haven’t been awful under Woody, so the program is in decent shape and we have all the institutional resources to be good, so I feel good about it for the most. There are certainly names that would be underwhelming, but anyone committed to actually doing the work necessary to be a college coach will be a breath of fresh air after Woody.

Getting caught up and seeing that Mark Turgeon has done the impossible and united everyone in agreement was really beautiful. Maybe dmv was just trying to remind everyone to find common ground, be better to each other, and remember this coaching search could end up being a total disaster. Or maybe not lol

I’d also point out he’s been HC of basketball at an unprecedented time to be at Clemson, massive upswing in out of state applications and national TV exposure. Clemson was a pretty regional school in upstate SC before Dabo came along. Clemson is decidedly cool now, and has been for a while. All those other cats were recruiting to place where people outside SC and about 20 counties in northern GA would have asked where and what the hell Clempson was. Also LittleJohn Coliseum is pretty cool, and gets nice student and alumni support now (I catch a couple games every year). Not saying he’s underachieved or anything, but Clemson basketball really has potential I don’t think it has realized under BB. Up until last seasons run, his seat was certainly warm, many around here are ready for a fresh face. Also for the record, Dabos whole shtick is not shtick. He’s very nice and country as a turnip green.

I am always amazed by how many people think we are some small school with limited resources, it is baffling. Particularly when it came to football. It had nothing to do with could we spend like we wanted a seat at the big boy table, it was always would we. I have had several people this year shocked, then laughing at our record when they hear how much this roster cost.

There is only one correct answer to this and it is the photoshop @Ghost of Rick Majerus did a bunch of pages back with large head brad in a red sweater.

Jokes on you, I know the Zrnos.

Hey, some common ground! I really do not see how you can put TJO ahead of SD if Drew is an option. Few I would maybe get since the Zags schedule pretty aggressively in the non-con which he always seems to do well, and he has a couple final fours.

If those are the options my order would be Drew, Few, Otz. Drew and Few are in a different level of no-brainer. Otz is no-brainer lite. And the gap between Drew/Few and Otz would be pretty wide for me. That just being extra elitist though if these are the three options.

Assistant to the regional manager of IU possibly?

The interest is Mark Tugeron wants to coach again, no one wants to hire Mark Turgeron, and being mentioned in the same sentence as the open IU job is good for Mark Turgeron.

I think it depends which school of thought you want to believe. If Dolson has his guy, or options of guys not named Bradley, they're going to be playing basketball still. Likely beyond when IU is not. If the coach isn't currently coaching I would expect an announcement within 48 hours of our season being over. I think that will be the lynchpin here. If we do not get an announcement soon after our season, and the tournament is (presumably, unless we win the whole thing lol) still being played I would expect delays with a whole lotta smoke and rumors flying. My guess, probably close to bullet 4. It is going to be a long few weeks.

Still more likely than Turgeron lol

I think this is my read on it as well if being realistic about Stevens. Maybe it is BS, likely is not. But the quiet around it seems to point to Dolson knowing he has options who will take the job that meet the search criteria without off the court issues. This is a positive thing if true in that Dolson didn't get too far down the list. I think the field also narrows when those factors are input to guys we would probably all generally be pretty happy with. It is hard to look at our job, the revenue sharing, proven NIL, fan support, and not think this search could certainly play out differently than the UK or UL searches (just an easy example of schools that got deeper into the wish list so to speak).

I can't remember who said it earlier(Edit, credit: @Old Friend), so apologies to that person, but this really feels like the first unobstructed coaching search in my lifetime where IU is in decent shape. I assume Crean was not forced or hired via coercion from boosters, but rather someone who wanted the challenge of a program that had committed seppuku. After nailing the Cignetti hire, I agree with you. Personally just have worries due to basketball being mismanaged at IU basically my entire adult life.

Thanks for sharing, nice update to what is going on. The silence really is interesting. Seems like only a couple of agents are out there trying to get raises, and most of those seem like 0% chance type of guys. Really sounds like Goodman is the only person who has heard something resembling a no from Brad, but the not a candidate statement gets more interesting if Dolson already had someone on the hook not named Stevens. That would make the statement 100% accurate, but would be strange to happen so quickly-- seems to me it could only be 'true' in that sense if Brad had turned down the job a while ago (like prior to Woody getting refired) and Dolson moved on. Coach szn is fun.

Stevens is going to be the only guy left on my list if these losses keep piling up for the hot board.

Which is equally lame.

I did not have two Jonah Hill gifs in the same day on my bingo card for today, but I support it.

I think its less about slush fund per se, but parlaying it for access to the athletic department in general that those two dorks would never otherwise have or be able to afford. That was always the part I didn't care for. Yea they're "helping" student athletes, but I would bet on a lie detector it was more about two fans wanting to rub elbows above their paygrade so to speak. JMO

I am probably a softie but I also feel for the kid. He came here thinking he'd be in the NBA by now. He has been put in a terrible position to get better or showcase what he is good at. There have been flashes sure, but playing him at the 3 has been criminal for development at both ends. I cannot really name one thing he looks better at now than when he was a frosh. I am not trying to justify his behavior (whatever it is, I have no idea) but this two years at IU could not have been worse for his basketball stock both transfer (NIL) or professional. His head has to be all over the place.

Entirely valid, but it was so forceful last time it seems odd to me that it essentially was hand waving the job. And I am pretty confident Chris and others will hear if Brad is a no to Dolson, there is no logical reason that info doesn't leak out imo.

I know my UNC folks had their eyes on the buyout going down next year for Oats until the extension came out yesterday. They expected him to get an extra year a la Woody then the buyout goes to 10million on 1 April I believe.

I think the reasonable take here is you and others have not heard that he has told Dolson 'no' so there has not been any smoke that way other than Goodman. And the quote being so meh. The guy literally went on camera and called himself a Masshole last time ffs. He knew "not a candidate" would not be good enough for the IU fanbase to move on. So that's where I keep a sliver of hope. Just my worthless two cents.

Welcome, nice post, also what is Brad Stevens doing talking to Goodman on Valentine's Day? Have we not rabbit holed how absurd that would be on its face? *Puts on tinfoil hat*

I just think someone saying "it is 0%" and trying to pass that off as some insider sourced hot take is as silly as IT giving the exact time and date of the commitment (something, something siths and absolutes). Two sides of the same coin IMO. You do not have to be an officially licensed fortune teller to know the chances of actually landing Stevens are probably close to zero. Was it zero from the jump? No one will ever be able to answer that with 100% certainty unless he comes out and says himself that he considered it or didn't. Which is probably never going to happen if he isn't our coach. The guy wanted to trigger the board, and did so successfully...or he is a plant because kids need BTB Christmas presents.