Dave from Dayton

I had to go and take a purdump. How did Texas get possession and another TD. That is a bunch of ....

Indiana Humpers 73 Rut Rohs Wise Guys 71 Adjusted score elsewhere on this thread.

Been doing that since 5th grade.

IU 85 Winthrop singing Wells Fargo Wagon 72

Miles should have drilled it from half court.

Woody shows a stall offense.

Yeah. Reneau should have gone for the intentional. That was hardly worth the call. A wee bump.

Will you people just quit with the negativity. You are bringing my headache back. And it is cold and those are flurries. That or my dandruff is back and I'm almost bald.

Give Ballo an electric guitar and he's doing Jimi Hendrix. Far out!

Decent camera work until just now. They just had a shot of Woody glaring.

Once Coach Cignetti was picked, my expectations jumped. Then finding out about his winning and demanding no limitations..plus my friend, a coach, concurred..Coach Cig is a winner. His impact is going to be huge... I stretched my preseason guess to 8 wins and a bowl invite. 11 wins and in the hunt for the championship! The Bucket, rhe post season, top 5 rating, BCS..wow. we'll done team! Thank you. (And thanks to this excellent fan forum and the mods and posters.)

"...something more fan facing...' and "...fan experience...' is their goal. Crystal balling it...seems that they are In the preliminary plan phase and do some better preliminary estimating ...figuring out concepts and seeing how much they can get for the capital they have accumulated. Likely then predesign, design, and construction. Will likely roll the preliminary plans out in public meetings. If they need more funding, with the predesign/conceptual drawings, they can set up meeting with potential donors and do the ask. Also said something about upgrade the media areas. Maybe even upgrade stuff outside of the stadium. May even have to expand the trophy cabinets and a walk of fame...if you know what I mean. Maybe they will add beer taps for craft beers and increased capacity and numbers. Also, expand and upgrade bathrooms. And no, they won't add a pen for a bison. They tried that before. IU does not need a mascot. What they need is a new head basketball coach, maybe a new university president, make advanced education more affordable and accessible, and a win tonight.

The above are excerpts from the writing by someone else and posted above by Stuhoo. I disagree with most of the premise of the post. It is an ok movie. But I liked that this guy had a dream...actually a couple of them. Remember, he wanted to be on the team. He got on the team. He also wanted to graduate from Notre Dame. He graduated from Notre Dame. The writer posits that he got to play in a game because of pity skews what really that was all about. He got to play on one game because his teammates liked him, respected him and appreciated that his dedication also helped them to grow. And contrary to the article, he did not throw his life away pursuing a dream that he was unfit to attain and make his own. He achieved his goals, both of them. Also he gained a bunch of lifetime friends. He also opened many more doors for whatever his future visions might be, he learned a lot about himself, earned the degree and achieved two of his dreams while a young adult. Now, he can dream and pursue other goals using what he has attained and learned as a young adult. Should women be kept unseen, at home, making babies and not going out into the world to pursue other vocations and helping society? Should Helen Keller not have been allowed to pursue her dreams? Should Stephen Hawkings not be a professor of theoretical physics? Should children with learning disabilities be allowed to excel and possibly use that as a strength? Should those of different races and cultures not be allowed to pursue happiness and strive to improve in accordance with their dreams? Should the disabled or those less fortunate with less opportunities to improve their lot not pursue 'above their obvious station in life'? Why is someone else trying to put other people down when they pursue a very difficult quest. Let Don Quixote be Don Quixote. It is exactly who he is. I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more Well, I wake up in the morning, fold my hands and pray for rain I got a head full of ideas that are drivin' me insane It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more - Bob Dylan

Jakai can't catch a break. Hope it isn't as serious as the previous injury/redshirt. We are cheering for you, Jakai. Get well. Get better. We need you. This season, if you are up to it.

Indiana Hoosiers Win and Advances 35 Notre Dame Exodus 21 The destroyer has come into your house to smite you. It is written.

No such thing. There are competent attorneys. A few.... The words...good and attorney are mutually exclusive.

Lookout Mountain Braggers 65 Indiana Hookers 84 I am most definitely going to watch this game. Can IU get over the Lookout Mountain hump? I didn't think that Nebraska had as high a hump as they did. (Unless I have to do dishes or clean the house or run an errand.) /s

How about a prediction league thread for the exact date that Indiana University formally announces that CMW is to leave and the agreement is formally signed, sealed and done. It is my opinion that it is critical to have his replacement all but lined up.

Do not look at the contract for finality. They can negotiate it away. For instance, if Woody agrees, then pay him extra to leave early. There are other options too. If he is found in violation of any part of the contract, then they can claim he broke it. So look at the future as an opportunity. If they say to Woody, that he is gone. Maybe there are options to leaving early that just may help him.

Never said Woodson is not to blame. Get rid of that argument. There is none. I made the point that both Woodson and IU administration have seriously botched this.

One may consider calming down and try to appreciate that other people have differing opinions. It makes this site and living a lot more enjoyable. Especially if one listens to understand another point of view, rather than with the intent to just respond and diss. Some of us may appreciate another person explaining why the other person's opinion may not be correct. Rhetoric is cool. But it doesn't necessarily carry the discussion forward. I would like to hear why hiring Woodson had nothing to do with the program being mismanaged (in my opinion) by the Board of Trustees and the Department.

Good catch. I forgot. I believe that Dolson was helping provide the short list to the Recommendation Committee (ie one of the team for the hired search & vetting consulting firm). If I remember correctly.

Seems to me that the above post is partially correct. And so is Stuhoo's post. It is kind of a chicken and egg thing. Why would Coach Woody fail on court? Why would Coach Woody be hired then fail on court? Both points of view have merit. The Board of Trustees, Quinn Buckner and Dolson all have roles. Seems to me they all failed in selecting Coach Woody relative to the on court coaching stuff. Keep in mind, though, they just may have a different agenda. Not just winning basketball may be the goal. They probably wanted to reconnect with alums and previous basketball players. So to fans, it appears to fail with respect to the W/L and NCAAT criteria. But to others, it may be a bridge to a more strategic vision. I just do not know the puts and takes on the Board of Trustees mandating Woody's hire and whether AD Dolson would really just roll over. Heck, if Glass'* pick of Archie Miller blew his powder...this time, maybe, the tradeoff was it would be Quinn Buckner's turn to pick a HC. (Remember when Herbert allegedly mandated that Kelvin Sampson be hired. And oversite was lacking. Another tradeoff?) There likely is a lot of stuff decided out of our view. I'm still chagrined about the last 5 basketball coach hires and extreme mismanagement of the program. Maybe there is light at the end of the season. Dolson knows how to bring in $$$$s. Alums got stroked by connecting with history of the program. Dolson has proven adept at hiring the HC in football. May that process bring a winner within the next 5 months. While the football program, this season, has caught lightening in a bottle...may that continue. Now for my old guy perspective: RMK was our lightening in a bottle. Personally, I lost a lot of love and interest in football...primarily because of Indiana's football program from the mid-70's on...except for a couple of seasons. I still like basketball more...and miss the old days of man-to-man, and X's and O's, defense, getting to the line, players with roles, and great competition in the Big Ten. Remember when Bob Knight benched his 5 starters? *Corrected...thanks KYsux...see post below.

Marquette (6) just lost by 8 to Dayton 9 - 2.

Try spelunking. Can't pick up the basketball games on radio down there. Long time ago, went in Blue Springs Cave with some experienced cavers. It's a two-level cave. Had deflated inner tube slung over my shoulder. Walked on the upper level...which is dry. Got to a tube and crawled...pushing my helmet ahead. Got stuck because the tube got hung up. Pushed backward. Pushed everything ahead of me the 2nd time. Got to the underground river. Inflated the tubes. Floated to Coglazers (?) sink. Climbed out. Now it is the entrance to the cave/boat tour. Did some vertical caving too. Not fun for me.