Dave from Dayton

Not a bad summary. But, there may be more options available: #5: IU hires an IU guy that has been an outsider and he either flops or succeeds...(ie. Fife); #6: IU hires one or the other and he is up and down and barely hangs on but no NC banner... #7. IU hires an IU guy for 4 years with an outsider as the heir apparent who takes over; #8. IU hires an outsider for 4 years and and IU guy takes over; #9. IU hires Brad Stevens and he either is successful or fails; #10. IU wins the NC in football and fans forget about IU basketball; #11. IU hires Dan Dakich and he tells us what he should have done and doesn't pull punches; #12. IU hires Steve Alford and he doesn't hang the banner and because of his legacy IU cannot fire him; #13. IU rehires he who must not be named and IU hangs banners; #14. IU has an interim coach for 4 years; #15. IU leaves the B1G and goes to the MVC and Notre Dame joins the B1G.

Archie Miller was fired about ten days ago. It took AD Glass ten days after TC was let go to announce the AM hire. Not really knowing if or how many feelers were put out at that time and this time...the coach selection clock starts now. I like skimming these posts. I appreciate those that try to give information they deem relevant (ie 0708 and Chris etc.). Really enjoy the discussions on coach qualifications and basketball trends. IU goals and AD goals are fun to parse. My favorite posts recently involved K Lander's where he said something like: happiness is coming. That was interpreted to mean something about a coach...maybe Cheaney. The next day it is alleged to have been about an upcoming spring break trip to Florida. I was and am an RMK fan. I cringed at his antics. I appreciated his abilities to get the most out of players as a team. I miss his wins and intensity and competition in the B1G back in the days. I do not miss his dark side. Many knew how to set him up so that he would go off. His unwillingness to hold back and not respond and IU's unwillingness/inability to handle that set RMK up. So here we are today. Still picking up pieces of that mess. I did get to see Mike Davis' team in Rupp Arena upsetting Duke in '02. Had mixed feelings about his hire. Was really sad to see he who must not be named and the aftermath of cellphonegate. He is a great coach but I cannot understand why IU did not monitor closely and catch him early...so that the rest of that did not have to have happened. And the T Crean hire was upsetting because of his lack of focus on team and defense. Archie Miller was a crapshoot but he had been excellent over here in Dayton. Those hires took time to get done. Give this one a lot of time. It has to be done right. Do work in the garden. Read books. Art and music and volunteering are great outlets. Then support IU when they roll out the red carpet for the new coach...may be 20 days from now. And save the red carpet. It can be repurposed as NC banners.

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I also do not think that it is Bennett because of this: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/17/why-uva-basketball-coach-tony-bennett-turned-down-a-raise.html He gets over $5 million per year which includes extra bonuses. And he turned down a raise. That plus IU AD said innovative.

The latest news on IU AD's new HC basketball coach: https://saturdaytradition.com/indiana-football/report-two-new-names-attached-to-indiana-basketballs-coaching-search/ In this linked article Matta is a possibility. Bozich relates that Woodson interviewed with the AD. I speculate that Woodson is not part of Plan B. Matta just may be. Pitino is out, Stevens is out, Oats is out. Lots of buzz for Beard by fans. But I don't see it. Lots of buzz for the flavor of the weekend like Musselman and ORU's coach...Bennett is hot on this board and others. Khristen Lander tweeted: Happiness is coming. Maybe he and his family know something. What? Maybe Lander has gotten positive feedback from a coaching search prospect; or has a new love; I hope that he is happy at IU. Some buzz about a rumor by a guy who knows Lander that alleges something like: That is great news! ..Only thing that comes to mind out of Evansville is Calbert Cheaney. For an example just look north to what is going on recently in Michigan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calbert_Cheaney I speculate that IU will get Matta, Bennett or less likely, Cheaney. Thad Matta is living in Indy and has had a bad back. He hasn't coached in a few years because of that. I just cannot get excited about Beilein for a number of reasons. Cheaney would be risky. But so would anyone else...including Brad Stevens. Other than that...all quiet on the western front. I speculate that no IU guy will be HC at IU in the short run. Maybe Matta as HC and Woodson as assistant. The transition staff of 3 coaches is just that. Wonder if any of them will stay after the new HC is hired. And this tidbit from OSU's Eleven Warriors: NO, PLEASE. I'm not sure I could draw up a bigger punch in the d** k to follow a first-round exit than the program's all-time winningest coach un-retiring to coach a conference rival just days later, but folks, that might be where we're at! I'll say this, the annual "will Thad Matta return to coaching?" dance is a hell of a lot less fun when the team in question will have to compete with my team on the court and in recruiting every year. Then again, there's nothing Indiana's basketball program (or athletic department as a whole, for that matter) has done in my life that would lead me to believe they're about to make a good hire, so I guess I'll just trust the process here.

Go Fund Me page is up! Please contribute to the IU fans want Brad Stevens fund (administered by yours truly). Or to the New NC Banner in Assembly Hall in Bloomington fund (also administered by guess who?). Or to the IU Alumni Pilgrimage to the Greek Islands (for 2) During the NCAAT Finals (quietly administered by D@D). Take your pick. Get a replica of an autographed ticket to the Final Four with every contribution over $10,000. PS: Heard that Archie Miller is going to be the new head coach for Duke. Coach K is announcing retirement this week. Wow, this bourbon is goooood! But, seriously folks...Brad Stevens is off of the table.

I hadn't heard that about Archie. Actually heard the opposite. That Archie was realistic and no nonsense. The used car salesman or snake oil salesman talk was about Crean. Not that he lied. Just that he did hype a lot and was more than flamboyant. And he was all over the place in his delivery.

I am a huge IU basketball fan. After graduation from IU, I went to Madison Wisconsin and worked for a few years. Then took engineering at UW-Madison. Followed IU basketball and football and cheered for IU! Always have, always will. But, I cheered for UW football and hockey, too. Had season tickets to both. When going head to head with IU I always cheer for IU. I cheer for the Packers, too. Then went to Dayton Ohio for a job. Cheer on University of Dayton basketball and Wright State. Daughters went to Bowling Green State north of here while Dakich was coach. That is another story. When I was 19 and after freshman year at IU-B, I joined the Navy. From Chicago boot, and CT and VA and up and down the east coast and overseas, I followed IU basketball. And watched with interest Duke, NC, NC St., CT etc. Even went to a Nebraska vs Army game at West Point. Fun until kickoff. Final score Nebraska 77 - 7. Have family that went to Harvard. One is a teacher in Princeton NJ. I do not cheer for the Patriots. I can understand that people that have lived up there in Boston could get excited for that franchise. U Mass, too. Brad Stevens is gaining life experiences and changing. I can understand why he would adopt and begin to love to follow new sports teams. Doesn't seem strange to me. I follow the Bengals and the Reds. Not too exciting recently. I watch the Colts but not serious about them. They started after I left Indiana. Used to watch St. Louis Cardinals. Pro sports is ok. College sports is crazy! I cheer for all B1G teams except Purdon't. Doesn't mean that he is cutting off ties and forgetting his roots either. He kind of said that.

The idea and possibility that Brad Stevens would leave the Celtics to come to Indiana is not thought to be preposterous by more than a few fans. I perceived that it was possible. I believed that it was possible. Here are a few reasons why. There are instances of coaches and players leaving the pros and going to universities to coach. Brad Stevens gave what could be interpreted as a non-denial denial earlier this week. I have lived in CT and VA and Madison WI and visited 47 states in the USA and I love the midwest. Indiana University basketball may have been mismanaged for 25 years but if one really understands one's boss (the AD) then that says a lot and can overcome the baggage of the previous ADs and IU mismanagement. I do not fall for conspiracies. I do not chase rumors. I say show me. I am a professional engineer with a business/finance degree and I think that Brad Stevens was likely approached by Dolson or someone representing him. Brad Stevens may have indicated some interest in the job. The negotiations had taken place. Stevens, since has declined to contract for the IUHC position. Seems plausible to me. Yeah, there were a lot of rumors floating around. Too numerous to count... Seemed there were 3 halfway decent and somewhat reliable sources. I wouldn't have bet a dollar on it. But it was possible.

I hear what you are saying about search firms. However, they only do what they are contracted to do. One may think that they take the place of the school in all decisions. That is likely not typical use of such firms. Some may just negotiate after the AD tells them the single candidate. For instance, behind the scenes contact to inquire levels of interest. Some may vet one or more candidates. Some may have other challenges and duties assigned. None of them would likely make any selection. They simply make recommendations and justify them to the AD. I have no problem with IU using professional services to augment the AD and his staff in performing such duties. The responsibility for doing the search, background vetting, culling and selection is still the responsibility of the AD.

I, too, wish Coach Miller the best in future endeavors. Being an IU alum and fan that has been living in Dayton for a long time...I have followed Coach Miller at UD and IU. When CTC left and Miller was announced as HC @ IU I was somewhat surprised but pleased. He had turned UD around and had significant successes. Thought it would be a big step up. Hoping that he would bring IU into competing at the top of the B1G and making runs in the NCAAT. I knew that he was tough but fair, intense but motivating, blessed with the rare gift of being able to relate to, and bring the best out of, players with a combination of both good cop and bad. He was clean, professional, and dedicated. He could develop players, recruit well, and was results oriented. He knew how to work hard and scrap with vigor to get to one's goal. His teams played like teams should...sharing and never giving up. Miller really got the short end of the stick at IU. Not saying that it wasn't time to change coaches, just saying that IU-DL posting above is more true than most fans seem to see. Bon Voyage Coach Miller! Thanks and good luck. May you always have a great PG on your team.

My best friend over here in Ohio is beside himself. I calmly asked him if he thought Brad Stevens will announce being the new HC at IU. Feel the glare? Feels warm to me. OSu threw that game away again and again. Waiting from Brad. Breaking out the bourbon. The rest of my posts may wander a bit.

This will end favorably very soon. There is no way, in my opinion, that the Celtics will keep CBFS on salary as HC after he shows that one foot is out of the door.

Bought some decent bourbon yesterday. Gonna crack it regardless. Because, IU is going to welcome Brad Stevens as the new head coach. It is a done deal says others. Just figuring out how to exit and when over there in Bean Town. Watching OSU fumble it away. Texas Tech looked lots better in the 2nd half. Enjoyed Izzo giving the hairy eyeball to players after MSU's loss yesterday. Lots of discussions on Celtic's fan forums about pros and cons of Brad Stevens' coaching job of the Celtics. Go IU! New drinking game...take a sip every time there is a turnover in a game and when you read an interesting tidbit about Brad Stevens. Been to that resort in Boca. InLaws stayed there. I couldn't. Stayed in a place called the Ventura just south of it.

Just left there. Was across from Lisa's. Short walk to Johns Pass. I am going to take a break from holding my breath for the PR on CBFS.

Just don't agree to changing Nick's to Brad's!

True, he did recruit fairly well. Except that the injuries and the growth of the other B1G teams passed IU by. That and Archie must get a great PG to work well. RP was good as a freshman but due to injuries he never seemed to recover fully. So Archie's PG didn't happen and Archie did not recruit a backup. Shooters either didn't shoot or couldn't hit. Time for a change. And I really loved Archie here in Dayton. Go get Brad.

OMG it's happening! Wow! Brad raises the mighty pen and.....

I am not worried. But I am pissed off about IU not being in the tourney. And, I still do not "get" why Archie Miller couldn't recruit at IU. He did very well at Dayton. I hope that he will do well in his career. And I'm so very glad that IU seems to be closing on Brad Stevens. T minus 23 minutes and counting. Then the big announcement: Brad Stevens to IU! (I have no idea of the timeline for the announcement.)

Hi. I live just north of the Air Force Museum. From PA to KY to IL to Evansville IN...Bosse HS. IU 77 UW 82. Dayton OH since. Btw Bills Donuts are very good. But Donut Bank in Evansville beats Bills. One of the only reasons to visit Evansville. The sequence I envision is the news starts to break on Brad Stevens or Plan B. Coach will tell his entourage and team and employer. Word gets out quickly. Then Press Releases from the old employer and IU AD. Then within days the press conference. Nothing new this AM. The three main sources of information haven't changed information in 12 hours. It is still thought to be Brad Stevens. No timetable. Go IU!

Bingo! For the record...just found this and it is just a meme.

Maybe that. Could be Monopoly too. Almost all the talk is about Brad Stevens, $49 million... Seems he has Boardwalk, Park Place and the greens and the railroads all sewn up.

Not only that... It also implies to me that the work is in progress. That means that they have already made contact with the prospective coach and that there is enough certainty of a positive outcome that the AD knows that there will be a short period between the above statement and the PR. Process could also mean that the AD might be still searching for the right coach. But, the implication of a short time means to me that they are wrapping up the loose ends.

I'm thinking and remembering that the last few coaching hires by IU involved that Indy Law firm that has specialists in the area of vetting and negotiating quietly and behind the scenes. The benefits are obvious. The AD can say he has not met with the prospective coach. And the prospective coach may say that he has not met with anyone from the AD's office. Furthermore, I really do not see boosters meeting with Brad Stevens to discuss these matters. Not prior to any contract being finalized.

Are helicopters flying around campus? What do the Realtors say? EFHutton? Car wash always has the good stuff!