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Montana State - (Brian Fish) - Hired Danny Sprinkle (Cal State Fullerton Assistant Coach)
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Recruiting Expectations vs Winning Expecations vs Reality
CrossboneIU22 posted a topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
With all the transfers happening in college basketball today and the potential end of the One and Done (OAD) era, who should IU be recruiting in this day and age to sustain long-term success and get back to being an elite program? As a fan base, are our expectations for recruiting unrealistic and out of whack with what actually relates to sustaining a successful program? Lets start with OAD players. They are impact players who typically start from day one. They are very talented and highly sought after in the recruiting game. However, there are negatives that go along with the positives of a OAD. They are only around for 1 season, inexperienced, can have different agendas from the team, or may create atmosphere and continuity issues. So the notion has been floated and discussed that we are not in a position to recruit OAD players at this time. Also, it has been noted that 0 of the final four teams have a OAD player and all have experienced teams. Not to mention, this era may be going away anyway. So, if that is the case, then the notion is that we need players who will be here for 4 years. I would say though that these types of players usually do not make much of an impact as freshman. So how do your recruit for this? How do you keep them from transferring when they do not get the playing time they think they deserve as a freshman? As a fan, can you accept a player who does not make an impact as a freshman? There are players that fall between a OAD and non impact freshman. Such as Rob Phinisee but these are hard to come by and do not come about every year. What are your expectations of a freshman at IU? How much playing time should a freshman player be getting? If players like Forrester are likely to transfer after their freshman season due to not getting enough playing time, then is it beneficial to recruit those players? So where does that leave us? Transfers. There are 2 types of transfers, Grad Transfers and regular Transfers. Grad transfers typically only have 1-2 years of eligibility remaining and are eligible to play immediately. Regular transfers generally will have 1-3 years of eligibility remaining but have to sit out a year before playing (in most cases currently). So, is a transfer player more or less important in recruiting than a high school player? Transfer players typically have more experience at this level than incoming freshman and are extremely less likely to transfer again. So basically what I am getting at is this. As fans, is our expectation of the players we want to recruit and the players we need to recruit in sync? I would venture say they are not which leads me to believe that our expectations for CAM and perception of his recruiting is not reasonable either based on the outcome we all expect at IU. However, in the end, all that matters is that CAM understands the type of players he needs and recruits them. Only time will tell whether or not he succeeds at doing this here at IU. As a sidebar, what about the players perception of this topic? Is a recruits perception of how their freshman year should go, way out of whack when it comes to reality? Is the OAD era partly to blame for this? Is that why we are seeing close to 600-800 transfers in the off-season? Would it be better for a player to go to a smaller school where they can get playing time and game experience and then transfer to more prestigious school as an upperclassmen instead of the other way around? How much of a burden would that then put on bigger schools having to red-shirt a player and give a player 2-3 year scholarships to play 1-2 years. -
2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves
CrossboneIU22 replied to CrossboneIU22's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Jeff Rabjohns @JeffRabjohns 1m1 minute ago More Indiana freshman forward Jake Forrester has entered the transfer portal, http://Peegs.com has learned. #iubb -
Fairfield - (Sydney Johnson) - Hired Jay Young (Rutgers Assistant Coach) Texas A&M - (Billy Kennedy) - Hired Buzz Williams (Virginia Tech Head Coach) Virginia Tech - (Buzz Williams) - OPEN
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Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanHoops 20m20 minutes ago More Another name in the mix at Arkansas is former UCLA coach Steve Alford, source told @Stadium
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William & Mary - (Tony Shaver) - Hired Dane Fischer (George Mason Assistant Coach)
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According to the article by Borzello at ESPN Calapari offered lifetime deal to remain at UK after he had been in contact with UCLA where they offered him a 6 year $48 mil deal to come to UCLA. Link: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26417804/kentucky-offers-calipari-life-deal
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Belmont - (Rick Byrd) - OPEN
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Which one, slick Rick or slick Dick Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app
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2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves
CrossboneIU22 replied to CrossboneIU22's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Alright everyone, this is not the April Fools thread. This is for actual roster news and roster moves. Now this does include roster rumors with a degree of credibility as well, but please no April Fools jokes in this thread. -
This would be interesting and personally I would love this. Not only would it put a damper on UK's success, Cal moving to Cal (UCLA) could indicate sanctions coming for UK as well. One can only hope right!
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2019 NCAA Tourney Survivor League
CrossboneIU22 replied to Str8Hoosiers's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Sunday - Kentucky -
2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves
CrossboneIU22 replied to CrossboneIU22's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Where is Chris? Can he shed any light on these rumors? -
Nebraska - (Tim Miles) - Hired Fred Hoiberg (Chicago Bulls Head Coach)
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2019 NCAA Tourney Survivor League
CrossboneIU22 replied to Str8Hoosiers's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
If I keep surviving the last pick I’ll have available will be the final four. No matter how this plays out I will not be able to have a selection for the championship game that I haven’t picked already. Poor planning on my part. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners -
2019 NCAA Tourney Survivor League
CrossboneIU22 replied to Str8Hoosiers's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Well, I only have 1 pick even available for Saturday 3/30 so I guess I'll choose Purdue. (I've already used Texas Tech, Gonzaga, and Virginia) -
2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves
CrossboneIU22 replied to CrossboneIU22's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Scholarship Players Juwan Morgan Senior - Trayce Jackson-Davis Evan Fitzner Senior - Armaan Franklin Clifton Moore Sophomore Transfer - OPEN -
Appalachian State - (Jim Fox) - Hired Dustin Kerns (Presbyterian College Head Coach)
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Niagara - (Chris Casey) - Hired Patrick Beilein (Le Moyne Head Coach) Saint Joseph's - (Phil Martelli) - Hired Billy Lange (76's Assistant Coach)
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2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves
CrossboneIU22 replied to CrossboneIU22's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
What Transfers might we be after? I would like to see us go after the Brunk kid from Butler. As others have said, we need a dead eye shooter. However, how many scholarships will we even have available? Morgan and Fitzner out, TJD and Franklin in Until we hear otherwise, only speculation remain on any other open scholarships. The most likely an opening being Langford declaring for the draft. could see anywhere from 0 - 4 more. -
Updated: OPEN Appalachian State - (Jim Fox) - OPEN Arkansas - (Mike Anderson) - OPEN Buffalo - (Nate Oats) - OPEN BYU - (Dave Rose to Resign) - OPEN California - (Wyking Jones to Retire) - OPEN Elon - (Matt Matheny) - OPEN Fairfield - (Sydney Johnson) - OPEN Georgia St - (Ron Hunter to Tulane) - OPEN Idaho State - (Bill Evans) - OPEN Kennesaw State - (Al Skinner) - OPEN Mississippi Valley State - (Andre Payne) - OPEN Montana State - (Brian Fish) - OPEN Morgan State - (Todd Bozeman) - OPEN Nebraska - (Tim Miles) - OPEN (Fred Hoiberg?) Niagara - (Chris Casey) - OPEN Saint Joseph's - (Phil Martelli) - OPEN South Dakota State (T.J. Otzelberger) - OPEN Stetson - (Corey Williams) - OPEN Tennessee Tech - (Steve Payne) - OPEN Texas A&M - (Billy Kennedy) - OPEN UCLA - (Steve Alford) - OPEN Vanderbilt - (Bryce Drew) - OPEN (Johnny Dawkins? UCF) William & Mary - (Tony Shaver) - OPEN HIRED Alabama - (Avery Johnson) - Nate Oats (Buffalo Head Coach) UNLV - (Marvin Menzies) - Hired T.J. Otzelberger (South Dakota State Head Coach) Tulane - (Mike Dunleavy) - Hired Ron Hunter (Georgia State Head Coach) Temple - (Fran Dunphy) - Hired Aaron McKie (Temple Assistant Coach) George Washington - (Maurice Joseph) - Hired Jamion Christian (Siena Head Coach) Siena - (Jamion Christian) - Hired Carmen Maciariello (Siena Assistant Coach) Troy - (Phil Cunningham) - Hired Scott Cross (TCU Assistant Coach) Cal Poly - (Joe Callero) - Hired John Smith (Cal State Fullerton Associate Coach) UMKC - (Kareem Richardson) - Hired Billy Donlon (Northwestern Assistant Coach) Mercer - (Bob Hoffman) - Hired Greg Gary (Purdue Assistant Coach) Ohio - (Saul Phillips) - Hired Jeff Boals (Stony Brook Head Coach) Stony Brook - (Jeff Boals) - Hired Geno Ford (Stony Brook Assistant Coach) SIU-Edwardsville - (Jon Harris) - Hired Brian Barone (SIUE Assistant Coach) Southern Illinois - (Barry Hinson) - Hired Bryan Mullins (Loyola University Chicago Associate Head Coach) Washington State - (Ernie Kent) - Hired Kyle Smith (San Francisco Head Coach) San Francisco - (Kyle Smith) - Hired Todd Golden (San Francisco Assistant Coach)
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Billy D. to be the next head coach at UMKC Billy Donlon just to clarify!
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Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanHoops 38s38 seconds ago More Houston’s Kelvin Sampson is expected to be in the mix for the Arkansas job, sources told @stadium. 0 replies6 retweets8 likes Reply Retweet 6 Like 8 Direct message Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanHoops 5m5 minutes ago More BREAKING: Mike Anderson is out at Arkansas, sources told @stadium. 11 replies107 retweets82 likes Reply 11 Retweet 107 Like 82 Direct message Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanHoops 7m7 minutes ago More Mercer is close to finalizing a deal with Purdue assistant Greg Gary, source told @stadium. 1 reply10 retweets18 likes Reply 1 Retweet 10 Like 18 Direct message Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanHoops 23m23 minutes ago More UMKC is expected to hire Northwestern assistant Billy Donlon, pending contract approval, sources told @Stadium. Donlon won 109 games in six seasons as head coach at Wright State from 2010-16. 2 replies16 retweets38 likes Reply 2 Retweet 16 Like 38 Direct message Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanHoops 28m28 minutes ago More Search Firm: Nebraska Fred Hoiberg is the heavy favorite to replace Tim Miles, but if it somehow falls through here are some other names for Bill Moos (and no, Ernie Kent isn’t one of them). 2 replies11 retweets28 likes Reply 2 Retweet 11 Like 28 Direct message
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@GoodmanHoops FollowingFollowing @GoodmanHoops More BREAKING: Mike Anderson is out at Arkansas, sources told @stadium. 1:34 PM - 26 Mar 2019
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Prohm not going anywhere. @IASTATEAD FollowFollow @IASTATEAD More Excited to announce we have agreed to a contract extension with @CoachProhm through 2025. Awesome to have a basketball coach that fits our department's culture of excellence while also having integrity, kindness and humility.