Indymike7

You would think that maybe you would look up simple facts before you try to make people believe what you want.  Collin has fouled out of one game this year...one. If you don't get Collin's game, you should be a UK fan.  He does the dirty work and has to guard the others teams best forward.  Collin is always the guy blocking the other team out when someone else gets the rebound. That never shows up in the stats, but people that know basketball see it.  Shows what you know...... Please quit being an IU fan. You are just bringing the board down.

JBJ and Yogi make players around them better.  If they focus on overall offense and not just getting theirs, we will have a great year.  They have the ball in their hands so much that they can dictate the offensive flow of the game.  James had 2 back to back awful possessions in the exhibition forcing shots while guarded while teammates were wide open.  Then he hit a 3 on the next possession and everything was fine.  I wish Crean would jerk his chain when he does that.  Last year during the pre-BIG season, Yogi, JBJ and Troy would dominate lesser opponents on their own instead of playing team ball.  That won't work in the BIG. We have to play 5 on 5 to get the most out of this team. Defense doesn't have to be great because of our scoring ability, but it has to be much better than last year.

Well, maybe if Collin can become a 4 dimensional player, he would be able to set screens for himself.  That would make him better at driving to the basket.  You want 5 guys playing one on one, your line-up works.  You want team ball, put Hartman on the floor.   You fell short and gave no defense response? Disappointing.........

dcoble9, I think I can respond to your Hartman non-sense.  He is not one dimensional on offense, he is the only player constantly setting screens and knows how to pass the ball.  I guess that makes him 3 dimensional!   On defense, sure he is not a great one on one defender, but he constantly denies his guy the ball (so he doesn't have to guard him one on one)  He also blocks out (usually the other teams top rebounder) every available opportunity.   I love it when people just watch the ball, have no clue what's really going on and run somebody down just because of their own ignorance (not).

Please Please Please get rid of him.  I sure don't want to sit through another season like this again.  At least in the re-building years, we had the future to look forward to.  With Will and probably Noah gone next year, Yogi will probably have to take 50% of the shots and pass the ball even less than he does now.  Might as well put Yogi's name on the back of everybodies jersey.

When we are getting killed, like in the Purdue game.  He has to come up with filler.  Didn't have to create the filler in the Iowa game.  Plenty of mostly good stuff to talk about.  I am sure the networks want anything from him they can get,  good or bad, it's better than dead air. Dan's career is about speaking his mind, the more he does, the more money he makes.  I am happy for the guy.  He has carved out a nice career and seems to be enjoying himself while making the big bucks.  I bet most all of us would love to make 6 figures to travel around and talk about sports.

Coach is the one teaching the guys how to play, tells them what to do and decides who should be playing when.  If they aren't following orders, then that reflects poorly on him also.  Come on, he tries to sub someone in with 3 seconds left in the first half and calls a timeout with .3 seconds?  Doesn't seem to want to take advantage of having Noah?  Why doesn't Crean teach him a hook shot? Clearly unaware of his surroundings and what adjustments it takes to win.

Coach doesn't treat all of the players equal.  That's bad for discipline and the team.  That's why we aren't playing team ball.  No coach in his right mind would be letting guys turn the ball over and make stupid plays without sitting him on the bench and let him think about it.  Said player will know that he will get right back in and can do whatever he wants as long as he is in the top 9 of the rotation.

Not ready to fire him yet, but definitely want to see him learn from mistakes and try to adapt and overcome.   Faults I see:   Little Basketball IQ on the floor.  Other than Will and Yogi nobody else in the rotation seems to have much.  Can't just play guys because they have long arms ond a good vertical.   Turnovers seem to be acceptable by Noah, Troy and Jeremy.  Watch Ethrington make one and his butt is getting chewed out and sent to the bench.   Not running any set plays.  Everyone just works their space and drives to the basket.  Didn't see a decent pick set against MSU until Hartman came into the game.   Vonleh has to be a top player against good teams.  He has virtually disappeared in the second halves of games against good competition.  Only thrives against physically inferior teams. (Definitely not playing near the hype yet)   Substitution pattern sucks.  He wants to sub starters in up to the last minute of blowout games, even when the starters quit playing D against MSU.   Won't give shooters a chance.  Hartman and Ethrington should be put in to see what they can do.  Now when they do get in, they are always on the weak side of the floor and never get a pass in the flow of the offense.  Have to have time and shots to build up confidense.   Run Fisher off.  Luke played his best half of ball all year in the first half of the Kennesaw State game and should have started the second half. Instead he got to sit on the bench and watch Jeff Howard play in front of him. Looked like the final straw to me.   He promises kids the world to come to Bloomington and just kills them in practice.  Then when gametime comes, they get to sit on the bench and watch the others turn the ball over repeatedly without ever getting a real chance to play.   Not ready to fire him yet, but several of these things are able to be improved upon.  Pretty sure I was the lowest win total (4) in the BIG10 season thread.  Now I am wondering if I guessed too high.