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I doubt it’s bad. The FB hiring cycle is over and Allen didn’t get poached, seemed to want to stay. They probably didn’t absolutely need to do it to keep him this year. Might be a good sign about fall season ticket sales. Presumably it helps fend off rumors this fall and beyond. As @Banksyrules mentions, it’ll be good for the whole AD and basketball for FB to keep kicking tail. I wonder if it even helps the BB search because of that, and because (as @Chris007 just pointed out), it says we’re serious about paying, now and even more when you’re successful.

Weekday mornings often bring new info. Sleep tight. Can’t wait to see what we learn tomorrow.

What was the timing of the Hulls injury?

Yeah, if you’re talking about the group of guys who used to run Crimson Quarry, it’s at least partially tongue-in-cheek. And given the challenges at the time of his hire, IU did alright.

I believe that’s paid out as of last year, so he doesn’t have to keep up that ruse any longer

Three of the four best seasons IU has had since Damon Bailey graduated in ‘94 came on his watch. I understand he’d run his course here but can you blame them?

Any idea if he’s healthy enough? I could be convinced that he has some juice left if he’s healthy enough to recruit

Wonder if he thinks he’s got bigger fish on the line? Could just be that he can afford to be choosy for a top-tier spot, even if he doesn’t have anything lined up

“The latter is true” meaning it’s time to call the moving company?

I was there the year prior for the 28-0 run game, happier times: https://iuhoosiers.com/news/2016/2/2/MBB_0202161318.aspx I’ve seen my share of blowouts in the wrong direction but mainly at Breslin.

Not a lawyer but you could negotiate it down AND eliminate it if he gets another job. It already offsets a new job’s salary, but especially if he has a desire to get right back out there and prove himself, or has ideas about his next spot, maybe he can negotiate a lump sum and get on with it

“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?” https://iufilmroom.com/2020-21/indiana-under-archie-miller-its-time-to-move-on/

Since the buyout currently equals 100% of remaining salary, one way to take the money being there is that there’s at least enough pledged for the buyout. Probably some more to call on if you can land a big fish — folks who’d balk at a big donation earmarked for the buyout but who could be convinced to throw in to up the salary for the next coach, or to buy the next coach out of his current contract elsewhere.

I think when things were less clear this was a more compelling argument. If you could say, “we would’ve made it in ‘20, we made it in ‘21, we’re bringing back some pieces and we’re really building something by adding _____ transfer(s),” you buy yourself some cushion. Maybe that works great and you become a real destination for prime transfers or you really help yourself on the trail. As is, though, the program has no juice if you stand pat. A new staff had a much better shot at impact transfers because they have a vision to sell, playing time may be distributed differently, etc

I think this is also a nice selling point for the hire: “hey, we think we have a nice nucleus coming back, some open spots to take a couple transfers, you don’t need to commit to a full rebuild.”

Hard to imagine we wouldn’t, then. We’ve argued for weeks about who to pursue in replacement but if the $ is there that’s the only question.

I mean I don’t dispute IU had injuries or was dinged up. But everyone deals with those. I dispute that some dings and a couple injuries to good-but-not-star freshmen excuse THOSE particular losses

The injuries excuse for y2 rings really hollow to me. Look at the box scores from losses at home to Nebraska, at bad NW or Rutgers teams, or the OSU conference tourney loss: IU had everyone (except a freshman Hunter).

All told this would be a fine set of results if you coupled it with consistently winning games you should: ISU, IPFW, Rutgers, Northwestern, more than like the two total wins against the non-MSU class of this era of the conference.

Not sure his record against the spread or as an underdog, but combing through...: y1: only obvious one is Norte Dame. Can make a case for PSU and UMd. y2: Marquette, @PSU? Louisville? Then the MSU games and Wisconsin. y3: FSU, OSU, MSU, home vs. Iowa and MN are probably toss-ups, PSU, @ MN y4: PSU and UMd look pretty good with hindsight, but otherwise it’s just the Iowa wins

Indeed. Justin could’ve really helped this year. Would’ve been nice to have someone well-suited to guard Ron Harper Jr., Eric Henry, Franz Wagner...

Probably so and I admire @Stuhoo’s commitment to pumping him up. Hope he succeeds...BC seems like a tough gig to me.

Yeah I wouldn’t argue this a ton, though I think in both spots you recruit lots of IN and Midwest kids and if IU was cookin’ more of them might prefer IU.

Hard to compare but I think it would be easier to recruit at IU if you got it going consistently.

I recall last offseason I made the point that while the three MSU wins were nice, they were real outliers and the pro-Arch crowd should consider just how close IU had been to losing all three. IU had been pretty middling even WITH those wins. Without them, IU would’ve been nowhere close to the bubble two years ago, and sweating a lot more last year.