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See in softly pro-Buzz from his tier of candidates; not my fav but I think a good choice. This really speaks well of him. My two questions, one from what’s above and one lingering: 1. Can we get the guy a real offensive star to get those O #s into the top tier? 2. Is he gonna leave a pretty good spot at TAMU?

Feels like whenever a new poster comes along with insider cred, mods figure it out pretty quick. Thinking of when Chris came around with Romeo news, for example. So uh…GP, do you have the goods? Welcome aboard, regardless.

I like Buzz, can I fly or drive in to consult on some new wardrobe stuff if he’s the guy? I will NOT be watching him wear a vest from a 3-piece suit with no jacket.

The arrest IS PROOF IU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE BASED ON NON-PUBLIC INFO YOU DUMMIES Also people in CBB just openly talked about the drinking and other concerns before the arrest. You didn’t need to pay a search firm 6 figures to know it was out there.

If Golden’s background comes back clean he’s wayyyyy up the list for me, have been a fan since the ‘22 San Francisco team

Agree, I think PU and Illinois are operating near their cruising altitudes, UM has a good young coach who has the goods, Izzo MSU is Izzo MSU, but the open job at the sleeping giant of a program has obvious appeal.

Certainly seems like some of our posters in the know are pretty confident our search will be done before it gets past 1A.

Very funny that Stevens doesn’t check a couple of the boxes from Thamel’s list: not a sitting head coach, and no P4 success, technically. Recall that Thamel was early with the Thursday report on Woodson’s future so has some credibility here. I assume even Thamel would say that obviously Stevens exceeds those given his circumstances. Still, funny that one of the guys everyone agrees would be an immediate unanimous A+ doesn’t meet some of the checkboxes. I don’t think it’s a smokescreen; anyone else on the list probably does meet those aside from like Few (not P4) or Wright (off the board I’d assume, but not sitting coach).

I don’t disagree at all but Goodman is top of the list for coach shills — whether he’s helping a friend get a buck in exchange for access or actually reporting is basically impossible to differentiate here or anywhere else. (Lots of the Archie hype was from guys like Goodman.)

Yep, especially as perhaps THE premier job opening (seems like Davis will get one more year at UNC). Dusty will either get a nice raise or the IU job based on his careful answer. Beard can dance for the job if he wants, it’s not going to him. But I bet within a week there’s some new contract or extension discussions reported for a few guys with leverage.

Jerry also said he expected an announcement right after the season and before the tourney starts. So huge contract for a guy who isn’t currently coaching. Hmm.

Yep, and if anything their luck/reputation/poll status has outpaced their actual quality lately. That’s why as much as I think he’d be an upgrade, there are many other options I’d explore beforehand.

Yeah there are some non-Stevens guys who might require that. I like Oats too, if Bill Self wants to move on (why? And also I’m a little worried he’s losing his fastball), etc. But of the candidates on anyone’s hot board, one guy is gonna require that bill

IU is not going to 10 years, 9.2M/year for anyone other than one guy this offseason, IMHO

Its nice that he’s not a sitting head coach; he won’t have any scheduled press availability until after the season for BOS and can probably otherwise “no comment” on background or just not respond otherwise.

Also, Stu, I think you’re just overthinking Jerry here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yep, terrible fit, his career timing and IU’s timing don’t make sense to me, wears out his welcome everywhere. Also elsewhere in the thread Tyme suggests he thinks Cronin and Cig are similar temperamentally and that’s what Dolson’s looking for. He’s definitely wrong on temperament and I think he’s wrong on the second part two (even setting aside football/bball differences, at IU especially).

Oh and he’s got them in red / crimson, houndstooth a la Bear Bryant, and so on

As for what GMs are doing post-deadline, probably some of the below: 1. Coordinating ops like scouting with coaches 2. managing waiver/roster stuff 3. self-scouting 4. draft scouting 5. long-range planning 6. Considering offseason plans Also, my guess is Stevens would get a ‘25 ring if he left in March and Boston won it all.

…unless it’s the candidate who’s not a sitting coach. In that case I wonder if it could be lined up a little earlier; e.g. whenever IU’s played its last game. Also one other Otz vs May thought: there’s probably some philosophical or implicit defense vs offense (respectively) preference. Not that Otz can’t coach O or May D, just that they have relative strengths.

I like Otz, and @AZ Hoosier had a good response. I think before this year there were more folks discounting what May did at FAU since it isn’t a high-level conference.

Yeah also he won’t literally have his guy until there’s a signed MOU or contract or whatever. I buy what Jerry etc. say is going down, but we did this for a day, give or take 12 hours, in ‘21.

I think there are some jobs — or were, even SEC football powers actually make smart basketball hires now — where an AD can basically make the football program work and be seen as a success. Once upon a time, if they needed to hire a basketball coach, they might really lean into connections from their own prior stops and a search firm’s work, and end up with a guy who got a favor because the firm owed his agent and he had a passable resume. IU isn’t that job and IU doesn’t have that kind of AD. Search firms are able to help with things like backup checks, maybe keeping some comms out of FOIA-susceptible places, maintaining plausible deniability, etc. So yeah even if Dolson is laser-focused on one guy, and they’re more-or-less communicating without intermediaries, there’s some reason to hire a firm.

Good morning to Brad. Give us a call when you have a minute.

Not sure if anyone recalls the Harbaugh-to-UM cycle but national and SF media insisted it was made up BS and connected UM people kept beating the drum that there was a real chance and mutual interest. Not perfect parallels but…