monskisprodigy

You take a couple hours off the board and have to read 20 pages to catch up haha. Without reading the last couple pages, has DG done something recently that would indicate he truly is a cancer? I know some have had concerns, including me in the past, about his on bench antics, lack of enthusiasm for team members etc...I have also seen times this year where he has been engaged, celebrating with team members etc. To just kick him off the team isn't appropriate IMO, but limiting his minutes is. It is on Archie for continuing to play him, that I can agree with. Will playing Bybee be any better, probably not, but I guess it couldn't hurt at this point haha. The DG situation in my opinion is unfortunate. We all have such high expectations for him because of the glimpses he has shown, but in reality he is a fringe power 5 conference guard, and on any other team would never be depended on to be the guy. He is inconsistent, sloppy and loose with the ball and always looking to make the home run play vs. the smart play. He has shown glimpses of being a very good on ball defender, but even that has slipped as of late. I don't think DG is a cancer, or the sole reason we are struggling. I just don't think DG is a high level player, playing on a team with 1 elite level player and a mix of supporting/role players. When you look at our team, ask yourself these questions. 1. How many of our guys would start on any other top big ten team? And 2. If you were putting together an all big ten roster, how many of our players would make that team? I can truthfully say, only Trayce would make mine. Our young guys can continue to grow and develop, but right now...we just aren't very good.

This is just a brutally honest question...but why would any elite 2021 players come to Indiana right now? Why would our own Mr. Basketball choose IU after watching the last 2 play on struggling teams. THIS is what concerns me the most. If we continue down this road, recruiting becomes a problem.

I will agree on this. Some of their tweets and behavior was truly embarrassing. I believe the IDS even wrote an article and referenced their tweets. The need for grown adults to engage high school teens will always baffle me. But...I am also a firm believe that no grown man should wear candy stripe pants unless they are on the court warming up...but I know those are fighting words among some haha.

I just read the article...very interesting. I guess I'm not sure why he included this in his recap of the game. Seems very out of place, and potentially a stand alone article. Straight from Statistics to a weird shot at the program and fans....Was he pissed off about losing, and felt the need to make himself "feel" better by taking a shot at the program. Odd.

You have idiots in every fan base. I would hope the kids we are recruiting would see the passionate fans at games like last night, and realize that is the majority of our fan base. Social media has given a lot of lunatics an outlet to connect directly with kids, coaches, etc....but living in Indiana and working in Kentucky and the Midwest, our fan base has an equal share of idiots in comparison to the other power schools. Maybe there are a select few cases where we missed out on a kid, but they are naive if they think those fans won't also be at their chosen school. Those cases may be secondary reasons for the kids not choosing IU, but I would have a hard time imagining that is the primary factor.

Is this a hunch, or is this something thats been discussed? I don't follow their program, didn't know if there were rumors out there about issues.

1) The steal: not smart, but not as egregious as its made out to be (worse if you are winning and you try to score) 2) The block, absolutely okay, great play and evened out the "disrespect" of the steal 3) Standing over the guy, which is universally a sign of disrespect and dominance over someone...not okay, and escalated the situation. You felt disrespected, you got the block, great. Move on...I personally think this is partially on the refs/NCAA letting celebrations get a little out of hand. I understand you want to play with passion, but the flexing after scoring, putting your hand down to the ground signify someone is too small to guard you in the post, etc. all adds to fires like this. Maybe I am old haha. All around a sad scene.

Tons of options...some new depending on your last visit. On the square, The Tap (awesome beers, food is great...fire cracker shrimp, burgers, etc.), Social Cantina (a la carte tacos, Margs), Smokeworks (Texas style barbeque and bourbon bar). Can't go wrong with either of those three. Plenty of really good options on the square. My favorite restaurant in Bloomington is Upland. Local brewery with really good food and beer. I also really like Farm, but it is a little pricier than the other options mentioned above.

Good question...you always wonder would IU of been better off accepting the mutiny, letting players leave and bringing in a new staff vs. hiring Davis. He did get us a final 4 run I guess.

Was pretty close to the action, and saw nothing but positive attitudes up and down the bench on Saturday. Archie even showing a little more fire than usual. Also...Mike Roberts is amazing to watch on the bench. I’m not sure how he has a voice after each game. His passion is infectious.

South grad here. Wife went to north. Glad to see North basketball back to being competitive.

Turns out Knight showed up at the Marian game today...so bizarre. Attends a random College game while ex players are being celebrated, again. I think Im finally be done entertaining him coming back. Clear it probably won’t ever happen. Apologize for the Misinformation earlier boys...

Rob was having issues with his hip after hurting it in the second half. Favoring it pretty good. Hoping nothing serious....his tone from the get go sparked us.

Team played really hard, too to bottom. THIS is the team they can be when they lock in. Free throws still going to give me a heart attack.

For what it’s worth. Bench looks engaged. Green and Davis cheering Rob in banging that three. Smiling.

Welp...he’s cut off from the family haha.

Is this a knock at me? Nothing wrong with some skepticism..ive been given bad information before. Sorry for sharing what I was told... also aware of the fact that he could eat breakfast with the team but not attend the game.

I agree. Family member isn’t at cook hall, but over at assembly. Was told he had breakfast with the team at Cook Hall. Now...Billy D also was in Bloomington supposedly. Would be disappointed if I was given bad information, but at least wanted to share it. Christmas gifts next year on the line here for this person ha ha.

I was just told by a family member who works at IU in athletics, that Bobby is at cook hall currently eating, and will be attending the game. Still not sure what to believe, but I guess we will see.

Thank you sir.

I was at the game, and honestly wasn't watching the bench closely. What did they do that would warrant a suspension in your eyes? Have seen something mentioned in another thread but no details.

I know he hasn't been impactful thus far, but I feel like Rob has to start moving forward. Get him off the bench and starting at the 1, move Devonte off the ball to the 2, and let him have shots created for him in the sets vs. trying to create for himself. Pound the ball inside to Trayce and Joey, get guys moving and start to see in rhythm looks fall. Also feel like Justin could have an impact roaming the baseline like Troy did due to his athleticism.

Wait, so it's just not us crazy Indiana fans! Win on a consistent basis and fans forgive a few down years here and there...fail to win at the level expected consistently, and you meet the pressure cooker. But I think that can be said about any blue blood / once blue blood program. IU is a good job...fans have high expectations, but most blue blood/once blue blood fan bases do. I want a coach to have confidence in his ability to accept the job and bring this program back, or don't walk through the door. There is a great story to be written some day about whoever is able to bring us truly back to prominence, and I still to this day hope that Archie is the guy. If he isn't, next man up....

Alright, 19 pages is enough for now. The verdict is still out, some have doubts, some don’t. He isn’t getting fired this year IMO, even if the wheels fall off, and he will be on the hot seat if they do. I still have hope that Archie is the guy, and darn it I really want him to be. Let’s regroup and get this ship back on track. One of my 2020 resolutions is to be more positive, so no better place to start than here! This team has shown it can be competitive and beat good teams (FSU is darn good). Let’s handle Northwestern and beat a really good Ohio State Team Saturday.

Even if the wheels fall off, I find it highly unlikely this administration lets him go. The issue is, we have a luke warm recruiting class coming in next year, and with uncertainty regarding Archies job (if we miss the tourney this year), why would any of the loaded 2021 kids choose IU? Unless Archie turns this year around, I don't think he recovers.