HoosierAloha

Let’s get a high end starting quality SG and get this thing rolling. I like the pieces put together but think we might struggle through early noncon schedule while learning system and tendencies.

Great get! Welcome to Hoosier Nation Mgbako!

Glad we're staying on topic here Josh, I hope your newest employee knows as much about leadership as you do. I'm pretty excited to see what Cupps brings from a leadership perspective but hope we have the personnel that allow him to lead even as a freshman.

I like how we suddenly have all this "information" about the recruitment of MM when it was said early on there would be minimal information coming out. It's almost like we forget what has happened in the very recent past. It'll be fun to hear how things "truly" went down after he announces.

I believe you missed the perspective that was written from when attempting to explain what I was doing. I believe I have a fairly accurate assessment of where IU stands in the pecking order or college basketball recruiting and not surprised at the recruiting win and many losses we've had thus far in 2023 free agency.

Not too difficult to track down CTA if you're following the knocked over trash cans

A lot of this, it's almost like we're projecting onto the recruit. Odd

What did I read into it?

This seems to happen often. The recruit is looking for x, y, and z. IU definitely ahead of the competition when it comes to x, y, and z but then we don't "win" that recruitment. I wonder why that is and if the people saying what the recruit is looking for and how the programs stack up are bias. Odd

Let's get 4/8 more schools and then go Big 1.o East/West or Big 1.o old/new with 10/12 in each division. Play everyone in your division twice and other division once (or half) then one preseason tourney.

Definitely thought you would have preferred the weather in the North. I'm more of a Jeju-do kind of dude.

I feel like this could be an entire thread about morphing two IU players into one and it would be a great time. I look forward to both getting their feet wet as freshmen. I hope we can get some experienced leaders to bring them along as they physically and mentally mature at the college level.

Quite silly but here we are, still. This silly string reminds me of this silly string

And he can beat Tennessee. I like what I see and think he could contribute. Sign him up, make those big moves Woody!

Glad the point came through clearly. It's almost as silly as the original comment and almost as silly as a fourth poster commenting to keep it alive. Instead of one silly post we now have 4+ posts involving a silly post about placing blame on the fans for why a coach wasn't able to get it done.

Woah, you seem to be tossing some assumptions around all willy nilly. Please quote me where I said I thought we had more talent than the rest of the Big 1.o. Arguably*, I never made the argument IU had more talent than the rest of the Big 1.o. Please quote me where I said MSU, O$U, and Michigan had better coaches. I would love for Woody to win a natty or make the tourney 20 something years in a row like Izzo. I would be appreciative if Woody had IU consistently making the tourney like Holtmann did to start his tenure at O$U. I would even take a couple of Sweet 16s like Michigan. Who I want and who we could pull are completely different things. Hopefully Woody can stabilize the program and some other magic can happen so when we go hunting for a new coach we have the ability to land someone who can take us to the next level. Why would I think the administration would care about my [high] expectations. They're my [high] expectations. It's how I perceive the players and coaches to determine those [high] expectations. When did just making the tourney become a high expectation?

Yes, IU arguably had as much talent as anyone in the Big 1.o last season. There is an argument that could be made that IU was the most talented team in the Big 1.o. What is my argument on finishing 2nd? Yes, IU finished T2 getting the third seed in the Big 1.o tourney in a down Big 1.o this past season. There was a way for IU to still win the Big 1.o without XJ but we reverted back to past seasons. You could put that on the players for getting all up in their feels or the coach for not correcting that last season and this season. Those teams all had quite a bit of talent and it could be argued* they had more talent than IU. One has built up a little wiggle room with what he's been able to do over several decades, another has had a solid run to start his current tenure (wouldn't mine Woody having something similar for his first 4/5 seasons or until he moves on), and the other has a few Sweet 16s in the last couple of seasons. So just like my other post, I would be perfectly happy with Woody stabilizing the program over the next handful of years before passing it on to the next coach to take us to the next level. I'm not sure expecting to finish towards the top of the Big 1.o each year and making the tourney is that high of expectations. I guess we could just keep reducing expectations until us just putting a team on the court would result in a packed Assembly Hall. I'm sure the administration would be happy with this. Besides, it doesn't really matter what the coach does/doesn't do it's the fans fault we can't recruit the needed players.

I believe our 4 and 5 will get a combined 21/11 but probably in over 50 minutes. I do hope we snag a few good small wings in the portal to transition to a different offense. As it stands, we should at least be able to open up the lane a bit with Ware, Reneau, and Sparks being able to step out and not being as dominant as TJD 1' from the rim.

You do realize how ignorant this stance continues to be right? Have fans turned on Woody so we should see the recruiting go down now? It could be argued the recruiting has been decent to good the last decade but the coaching hasn't gotten it done. The 2022-23 Hoosiers had as much or more talent than the majority of teams in the Big 1.o even without XJ. What fans can do: - get behind the program - cheer for the team when there is something to cheer for - be fanatical about the program - be complete idiots sending players/coaches messages (although the program has the ability to control this) What the coach can do: - recruit players to build a complete team - instill leadership and demand leadership/effort from his players - decide who plays dependent on leadership/effort/ability - determine style of play I wonder which has a bigger impact on recruiting. Surely it's the fans that have the least impact. Could us recycling coaches have anything to do with their actions or are they just poor victims with multi-million dollar contracts not getting the job done?

It was seeking understanding by the term competing. I associate the word with conference titles, Final Fours/nattys, or competing within a game. I would agree we were competing with being better than the previous season despite the hype and penning of a conference championship and Sweet 16 last summer. We didn't actually compete to hang anything in the Hall last season. Even without knowing the entire roster my expectation for next season is not taking a step back. That can be different for different people. Unlike some, the Woody experiment can be a success if he stabilizes the program with good finishes in the Big 1.o, tourney appearances, and the program not falling off a cliff. Hopefully this puts IU in a much better place next time we go searching for a coach.

What exactly did we compete for in hist first two seasons?

Woody and staff not messing around. I like it!

Where was I trying to start a debate? There is nothing to debate. If we're playing the game I'm happy we finally started competing. We could probably slap a name on it and say we're the first to do it so the fan base will get stoked about it.