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And I am agreeing with you! Didn't mean it to read as a disagreement; just trying to illustrate the alternative to what you correctly cited as an unlikely scenario.

Or...it would require everybody going pro, CH and Tim Priller graduating, and no transfers. Which would make Al Durham, Grant Gelon, and potentially a guy like Clifton Moore our "we understand the deal" back-bench guys.

I fear that CH has played his last game as an IUBB scholarship player. I could easily see him getting a Derek Elston-style role after this year, especially since Derek is not going to hang around all that long in his current role without looking for career advancement. I know most are ready for the news on Collin's knee to be bad, but y'all need to prepare yourself for him to be a four year scholarship player, not a five year player. We all want to have: Balanced classes, To give scholarships to players that will pursue an IU degree, and To have room for high-level new players to commit with some certainty that a spot will be available. Collin being done will meet all of those criteria, and he will now have missed almost two years with leg injuries. As I said, be prepared for his scholly playing days to end, unless there is an unexpected open slot. BTW, that no doubt happens sometimes - Danny Moore and Jeff Howard both got a scholly year, but in Matt Roth's year it wasn't in the cards. Now...time for a whole lot of discussion on this reasonably likely situation!

No idea, and FWIW, even this source does not claim to have any guarantees of what will happen (if he did, that would trash his credibility IMO).

I was doing a little digging for y'all this morning while eating my Honey Nut Cheerios. I found this on the Illini board. The poster is a one off on the Illini board, and has posted briefly on the Nebraska board with a profile covered in IU swag. The poster also is a premie IU poster, and has weighed in on bball coaching software websites. Take it for what it's worth...here's your sunshine pump for the morning: CoachSS All, I promise I come here in peace. Just want to touch up a bit on Kris Wilkes. I've seen a few posts suggesting Illinois may get him and they are in prime position. While I certainly applaud John for the work he has done behind the scenes and openly (especially in regards to staying in the ear of Kris' personal instructor) I think that the enthusiasm should be tempered a bit. Wilkes' high school coach has said privately he's fairly certain that Wilkes will go to Indiana and even his own father suggested a quite a bit of surprise about UCLA being a finalist. As most have correctly said, no lineup or returning starters will have any bearing on Wilkes' decision. When you are that good, you go to a school and you play. End of story. Having had the chance to see Smith and Wilkes multiple times, I can say, categorically, that they will be playing together and not competing for time. Smith is a guy the IU staff can slowly bring along whereas Wilkes will walk in and start at the "3" right away. I am here to talk Illinois basketball. I'm a big fan of John and really hoping he turns the corner this coming season and desperately hoping everyone stays healthy. I come here to help shed some light on some of the recruiting stuff that I know about.

Meanwhile, Purdoodoo is running out of 2017 options. They are about to go O-fer the top 200. AND... With only one incoming freshman this year (though potentially a good one) their cupboard is going to get pretty low on supplies, unless they want to become "grad transfer U".

The man grew up with a helicopter. You got a problem with dat?!?

Uh oh... Coach Nips is pissed.

So would reasonable defense. If we get that, the rest is all good.

Solid.

All CTC will have to do is show Wilkes tape when two or three of CH, Troy, OG, and Juwan were on the court together from last year. All of them inside AND regularly stepping out past the 3 pt line

I KNEW that having Troy and Hollowell handle the ball too much could have some purpose, some day.

I'm pretty sure that CNN and Fox will cancel whatever crap they had on tonight for this news! (Thank you thank you ... Please tip your waitress)

Announcement this Friday? Edit!!!!!

I think that an "unexpected transfer" and a five man class is more likely than a four man class, the inclusion of Timmy P, or the exclusion of CH.

Ummm.... That roster does not have Hartman on it. He has a better chance of being on that list than a few that are listed, in my opinion. And I'm not talking about the '17s you listed.

Per IUHoosiers.com, below is the list for favorite meal of each player on this year's team. Personally, I'm with Quentin Taylor's Thanksgiving dinner, and I'm also a fan of TB going with the same staples as many of the others, but insisting that it be "cooked by Grandma." Feast on this: OG Anunoby — SpaghettiJames Blackmon, Jr. – Steak, Mashed Potatoes and AsparagusThomas Bryant – Fried Chicken, Mac-n-Cheese, Fresh Garlic Mashed Potatoes, Collard Greens and a nice Pound Cake cooked by Grandma.De’Ron Davis – Spaghetti with Garlic BreadGrant Gelon – Ribs and Sweet PotatoesDevonte Green – Steak and Mac-n-cheeseCollin Hartman – Beef StroganoffJohnny Jager – Steak and PotatoesRobert Johnson – Crab Cakes, Shrimp, Mac-n-Cheese, and Mashed PotatoesCurtis Jones – Fried Chicken, Mac-n-Cheese, Mashed Potatoes and LemonadeZach McRoberts – Chicken and Noodles with Mashed PotatoesFreddie McSwain, Jr. – Meat Loaf, Corn, Mashed Potatoes, Mac-n-Cheese, homemade Pie.Juwan Morgan – Ham, Greens, Cabbage and Potato Salad.Josh Newkirk – Spaghetti with Garlic BreadTim Priller – Chicken Fried Chicken, Mac-n-Cheese, Garlic Mashed PotatoesQuentin Taylor – Thanksgiving meal: Turkey, Stuffing, Sweet Potatoes, Rolls and Collard Greens

C'mon young fella. Let's have a Tuesday commitment announcement! (No inside info, but no question those recent UK crystal ballers were misinformed).

I got great seats two years ago via the Notre Dame box office site.

A very very very sad day.

You just say "See...we're a basketball school!"

BINGO.

And how do we know he is officially "wheels up"?

Easy. Wilkes. But both would be waaaayy better. (If not Waters...Darius Garland in '18 pretty please!)

I am not optimistic on CH's knee. I strongly suspect...it's an ACL.