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Oates, Drew, Beard and Stevens for sure would be $5 million+. Beard and Stevens would be near $10 if not closer to $15 million per year. Don’t give them an easy decision. I understand their situations and why they would want to stay in their current situations. Give them a reason to come. Do we honestly think Calipari was going nuts trying to get into Kentucky? No, but they threw a lot of money at him and gave him space to build his vision even if it wasn’t the norm at the time. Our admin has to do that for the next hire. I agree on Musselman and White. I know some boosters are higher on some NBA assistants. I have even heard Becky Hammon. Truly (won’t happen at an IU). She wouldn’t get $5 million obviously. Neither would any assistant. Some boosters like people like Dana Altman and people like that. This is the year to go big game hunting. Next year we would go for upside unless something hopefully opens up then.

If we make the tournament there won’t be a ton of uproar for change unless a sure fire name coach is out there. Should add that too. That’s the vibe I am getting currently. If anyone else is hearing anything different would love to know. Most everything I am hearing seems really open ended. By February of Crean’s last year it was a foregone conclusion. This one is much quieter or Dolson just isn’t to the point of making a change for change sake. Not sure honestly which one it is since he is newer.

I understand that sentiment, but I truly feel there will be coaches out there this year of all years at $5+ million. You start jumping into that echelon of coaching choices there will be some there worth hiring. I don’t think we should so easily go to upside unless we are waiting until next year. If we make a move this year, the way I understand it this will be because there is a Brad Stevens (not necessarily him but a name coach) out there waiting for it. The question will ultimately come down to how much the university will pay for its next coach and his assistants. I can say booster’s wants are more than upside if a change is made. Trading Archie for another Archie lottery ticket is not currently appealing to boosters.

There are coaching candidates every year that seemingly come out of nowhere. I truly think this Covid situation could play into a positive. I guarantee some top coaches out there struggled with the year and are trying to determine whether their spot is the best option. If the rest of the year plays out in a way a change is the best option, we must swing for the fences. Open ended and generic, but if it’s not a coach worth throwing $5 million plus if we have to go this route, I don’t want them. That’s how small I want our list to be. I am done with upside coaches. If this time takes us to our 3rd, 4th, 5th option, our university isn’t serious about basketball. If we want to be a powerhouse, we need to start acting like one again.

Yeah man, he does this every year and it’s always been on sites I was a part of. He isn’t always Sam Story on here or 247 but he sees it. Regularly. I learned a long time ago people with actual info don’t create a second account cause they “rage quit” like he has on over 10 times that I know of. Used to be a thing on Scout and then he followed us to HSN and then 247. He is here too but mostly stayed where Ken (milehiu) was. Damn Janitors everywhere in the world.

It would actually mean something if this wasn’t his annual shot in the open ended dark to poor me just dm if you need me. I guess we have found consistency in Hoosier country. All we need now is Justin Albers to piss off the masses and we are right as rain.

**** this season. If Race is hurt, man I really would struggle to be more upset for any other player.

There is Jerome in the last 15 minutes. Could really be anything, but he isn’t one to post this type of thing often.

It’s all based on when Archie is fired.

Oh gotcha, I was speaking on the buyout end of it. That’s my fault. I could see what you are saying. Aren’t those convos normal occurrences since Knight left? Everyone always has an eye on what’s coming up? The way I always understood it those convos aren’t too dis-similar from what we see on here.

To this point main boosters haven’t gotten the testing the land call yet. If it matters. With Crean that was a revolving convo for about 2 years prior to his exit. If we lose out no way he is back imo. No way the boosters that matter would stand for that. I would be willing to bet a second Purdue loss this season where we look totally inept would mean as much if not more than missing the tournament this season. Edit: Sorry wrong thread. I think we have to win 1 in the regular season and 1 in BTT to be sure. I don’t think it happens, but we are playing on the road some...

Well not necessarily. They have to pay for sanitizing between games, ushers, and other staff. Not saying that’s $80k, but I would be shocked if this netted them more than $25k at your numbers. Wonder if they will only sell all day passes or blocks of 2 or 4 games only to minimize those costs.

Wonder if they have designated for season ticket holders then general public to get to that 25%. But I haven’t heard anything definitive on that. But 500 only at SSAH? Yeah that will be moved.

We will have 25% in Indy for the tournament!!!! Yes!!!

I can see that. Even at that we are talking essentially $20 million including Archie’s buyout. I know that’s a big number, but if you as a university are serious about basketball that really shouldn’t make you flinch. I think only Calipari’s is absurd. Other than that if Kansas, Duke, UNC, and Kentucky wanted Oates that number wouldn’t scare them. They could get that in donations easily. If that’s a guy as a university you say you want money shouldn’t matter unless it’s an absurd amount. I honestly expected his would be higher. He isn’t ending there.

Not sure what I did to kill the font in the previous post. Apparently that was my loud voice font.

His buyout will also increase to over $10 million over the next two years. That was from the SI article, but it’s an odd way to say it. Does that mean it’s lower until then? Bold move on their part if that’s the case.

Could be worse. Pretty sure Cals is over $50 million still. I am also pretty sure Archies buyout is hovering around top 20 highest, but that changes every year. Par for the course with college coaches. At a program like Indiana it’s just the norm. Unless we hire Dane Fife. If we give up over a $10 million buyout on someone like that I have serious questions/issues. My thing is that buyout shouldn’t be there unless you can afford it day 1. That should never stop an Indiana from making a final decision. When money drives/determines final decisions on getting the right leaders, it will never be a good business decision or end well. If he is your man, he is your man. If he is not, $10 million shouldn’t be the final swaying point. Now if he is up for a contract extension and you aren’t sure, you can’t move forward with that coach. Our leadership has to make decisive decisions over the next year or so. It better not come down to a few million dollars deciding.

To add to the game good team win. Clean up the careless turnovers. Loved the ball movement and feeling like we started the game with a plan/purpose. Biggest problem with this team is stringing wins/effort. Carry it forward. This is all everyone wants. Good job last night boys!

Not that I was giving you guys any idea what was buried under the Generals threads to boss man ;).

I will say I thought I had a pretty solid porn collection. Reb showed us what we were missing. I am sure the mods have a thread buried somewhere with probably about 10k nudes from that one man. We would come back the next day and Dude would have a hundred new nudes on the mod board or a massive PM thread. It was truly impressive. He loved his Asian women and long night discussions with Olivia.

I am all for frustration of the current events. If you are an IU fan how can you not be? I have been through this before, in far worse circumstances. I get it. I can’t get behind bashing of the kids that put more into this institution than any on here could ever dream of. It’s a different era and I get it. Most like me I am sure will be back in the spring or even prior to next year. I hope we win out and make a run, but unless I am on copious amounts of narcotics I am not stupid. We all see where this is likely headed. If it matters I expect to see Archie Miller back next year. I am not saying that makes me happy or any of the last four years have been remotely acceptable. If that happens I am sure it will probably be as quiet next year no matter who is on the court for us. I hope you are all safe, and enjoy the season (if you can) in any way possible. Look forward to the convos both good and bad soon. Stu you guys are good. You guys are in an unwinable spot until a change is made. I get it. Go IU!

Damn near every coach is hired to get fired. I hope you all feel better about yourselves. I hope you all get a bozo button or get whatever it is that makes you all happy. Just know Greg Marshall was fired before Archie Miller. Also, I did not quit posting here because I thought Archie Miller would do good here and he didn’t. If you truly feel that way, how’s come I haven’t stopped posting over the last 15 years at various sites? I quit posting here because I wanted to enjoy what I could of the season. I know you and others won’t understand that, but some of us actually root for success in spite of seeing what is happening. You give yourself too much credit. I have been on these boards for four coaching changes. Negativity doesn’t scare me away. Repetitive bitching to ***** is enough for a lot of us. Also if you have something to say to me @ me, don’t say “there are two people...” Seriously we are adults if you got something to say to me say it. Don’t be a puss on an anonymous board to puff your chest out. It’s sad you guys need adulation over something like this. I hope you all don’t need this in your regular lives lol.

Cut him some slack. It’s been quiet. Who doesn’t like to preemptively lump people into a thought process in your own head, just so you can argue with yourself on a public forum? You haven’t lived until you have tried.

IU - 76 PSU -63 Bounceback game for TJD.