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Yikes got my bottom dwellers mixed up. Chambers is the one doing a hell of a job recruiting... I deserve a ban for that. Now I see what nips was saying.

Nah this kid is going to PSU and they are putting together a real solid class.

Collins is impressive

Ha, highest I had was 69% for Biden (which I gotta say surprised the hell out of me). The rest were all within 10%. Seems like I am far more in the middle than I thought. No, I would never vote for BIden.

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Can we all agree from an economic, healthcare, and defense election this is the most important in a long time? I am not a fan of Obama. Some are. Even if we disagree on that we all need to agree to research the candidate that fits us more.

Yep until Martin Luther in the 1500s in Germany the Holy Roman Empire had a solid stranglehold of the known world still. You don't get that way by being good Christians. You are correct about the Church of England. Also truth be told JFK was the first Catholic president. Modern religion and leadership is a new thing. This country was built on people getting away from Europe and advancing themselves without the church holding them back. And my parents thought my History minor was a waste... The one good thing about IUs History courses is they were based on points in History and how they were related to religion. I am not overly religious due to the historical atrocities in the name of God. If you do anything in the name of God people will follow. IMO that's sad and defeats the reasons religion was first made. When Jesus was around there were over 190 religions around due to the bad living conditions of The Roman Empire. Christianity stuck. The church took over and it became the Holy Roman Empire who did far worse things than Rome. Look at Popes from 200-300 AD and see how many Popes were killed. See what made one a Pope until 1500. Religion as a concept was meant to give hope. But when you are told the only way away from this hell is through us, we'll that's powerful, and not what this country was built on.   Edit:  There is one more thing.  ^^^^^ This is why our constitutions is built on freedoms as opposed to religion.  ^^^^^^ This is why when the French Revolution happened they used our Constitution and our delegates who developed the Declaration of Independence to help outline their Constitution.  The French Revolution was the Middle Class fighting against the rich.  The rich in those days in Europe were those involved with the church. 

Lol. Holy hidden post GC.

Lmao tell me you don't really believe that do you?

I just don't see UK cause you don't give up your OV to BBM and all the things they can do that aren't violations those days unless you aren't going there. MSU makes the most sense to me.

Right. I don't like Crean but come on. That is reaching quite a bit. Plus if it was he has a plan in place. There was none.

No he was not. That is an asinine assumption for a Frosh who actually got PT.

Lol who is Doyle talking to really? You know it isn't the 3 coaches involved. Probable MSU but I highly doubt Doyle has the "inside" scoop.

Like Thomas Bryant wasn't a 5* either. But Yogis class was weak on PG. That is part of the process for the burger boy game.

Highest I think was Rivals at 19.  That was a 5*, but all others were 4* I believe.  Rivals also had Kris Dunn from the same class as a 5* at 16.  Unless you are top 5, you aren't guaranteed anything.  We all know who the top of the top are.  Those are game changers.  He ranged from there into the 30s. Noah Vonleh was a 5*.  He was the highest rated recruit Crean has got, but big difference between 5* and automatic game changer.  Noah Vonleh was a known project.  Yogi came in to the top ranked team in the country needing a pg to get Jordy off the ball.  Cody came in after multiple disappointing seasons, and put us in the Sweet 16. 

Even the 5* we have got has not been game changers other than Zeller.  I am not planning for that.  Under Crean he is the only player that has stepped in and changed the dynamics of our team.  Others have been great role players, but nothing like Zeller.  I think we need to keep getting the high 4* like Troy and Yogi, and then let them develop.  Very few true game changers every year. 

He has been really tight lipped about IU. It's weird.

In August with CuJo. He said he loves IU. It was welcome back week. Part of why the punishments weren't announced for a few days.

I don't think much swaying is going on this weekend. He knows where he is headed if he moves up from BBM.

I say 7 wins. Confident we haven't seen our best ball.

IU 47-32

IU is doing pretty well. 20 team tournament. Arkansas is walking away with it at -6. Second place is at even. If each player improves on average one shot a day they could get 2nd place.

Me too. I got tix on the presale last week. 4th row for 4 people was $180 including fees. Not bad really. Plus Zeller should see quite a bit time.

They have a preseason game set up at the Coliseum in October against Charlotte.

Ha when they say we have to get to 4-0 just to buy tix. It's almost weird putting that in a sentence and involving IU football.