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No but 5 level 1’s is like saying there is no control. So I don’t see how we don’t see something massive at first. Then the appeal. Louisville had 1. Crazy what they think/know they have on them to come down like that. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29147741/ncaa-enforcement-office-calls-kansas-violations-egregious-severe They got five level 1’s? Man I bet Louisville doesn’t get much but I bet this punishment plays out in court.

Much like Russia I don’t believe that for a minute. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Correct, but the weird thing he is talking about it was said those people were not using public transportation I had thought. They were mostly home and not working. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Guessing it has to do with air ventilation being what it is much like cruises in those apartments. A lot of New York doesn’t have true central air in their apartments. Usually in those they push air from the bottom floors up using fans. Grocery store cashiers will get the spit shields. All other workers have masks and people really don’t get up close to them anymore on a regular basis. It does make you wonder why a Chicago is not getting crushed, or a Philadelphia. Their projects are as bad as New York’s. Not as big but you would think big enough. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I don’t disagree with the overall point you are making on paying 5* to go to the B1G but I was more speaking to we only have 2 teams with a top 25 class. Usually we will have around 4 or 5 of not more. Across the board it’s a down year mostly. Wisconsin and Purdue are right outside of the top 25. I just can’t recall a year where it was like this. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I was really surprised to see OSU’s class after last year. Figured it would bring some momentum. Juwan won’t make the locals happy with that class either. I don’t think most of us would be happy without a Lander reclass. Odd year in B1G recruiting. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Definitely with the European players. That and Drazen Petrović/Arvydas Sabonis. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

What I read the other day second spring training is looking like June 10 and season begins July 1. Sounded like they will go into November. Also sounds like spring training would be at their home parks and not Florida or Arizona. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I just liked his consistency at both ends. Magic definitely had the better skill set and was a matchup nightmare on offense. Pretty solid defender. At that time in the NBA there was nothing talent wise in the early 80s that could stop him. I get it. I figured someone would question that. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Thank you for the response. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

So let me rephrase that. How do you find all of these moderate doctors, economists, etc. that tell the truth and nobody knows anything? You are telling another man his media is lying to him. How are you of all people able to come to that conclusion? I mean your sources wouldn’t be biased like his right? You aren’t skewing the searches to find the data you want to find right? Like I said I can easily find many articles to go in either direction. How are you of all people able to find the unbiased truth others can’t? Because when you don’t agree with them, it turns into where others get their info from is lying. If you don’t understand what I am asking, then forget it. What I am asking is not something you are wanting to understand. I am not trying to be a dick, because both sides are this way. You just happened to type it out in a very direct way that acts like the dude is the biggest ******* idiot in the world. Just curious why? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

So. How do YOU know they don’t tell him the truth? Lol cause your truth is different and it’s full? I am cool with the pissing and moaning but I don’t get that. You are telling him to get away from the politics and in the same post tell him his media lies to him. Lmfao really? I don’t watch Fox or CNN but either side that ultimately says that as a de facto answer isn’t being truthful with themselves they are open to listening to anything. I can find 100 articles saying both sides are wrong. Doesn’t mean I am the keeper of the truth. Before you tell me you said both sides were entertainment, cause I know it’s coming, your words after don’t say FOX is lying. You explicitly tell someone else their station you perceive they watch is lying because You don’t agree with them. You are straight up guilty of what you are trying to lecture someone else on. That’s the part I wish both sides of this argument would take the time to understand. Not one person on here has the “truth”. I sure as hell cant get it from our president. I sure as hell won’t get it from cable news. And I sure as hell won’t find it on here in a place where people try lecturing me on things I have actually worked around for close to 15 years. So where does that leave us? In the words of Aloha, I guess we are all just ****ed and should leave well enough alone here. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

You are correct. There is a lot that goes into it. Much like there is a lot that goes into what makes a player great. Part of what made Jordan so great was his ability to elevate the people he did. His will to win. His competitiveness. That isn’t hyperbole. You knew when you were watching him he didn’t want to just beat you, he wanted to destroy you truly. That isn’t a skill that can be tracked by statistic. That’s why it’s all subjective. Imo if you had a draft of every player in the NBA history Lebron would go 1. He should based on his skillset. I would still even to this day bet in that scenario Jordan would win more than Lebron. That chip on his shoulder would be huge with anyone being picked ahead of him and drive him to greatness. Lebron would still have his great career no doubt. But it’s just splitting hairs. It’s all preference. I prefer to get the guy that continually wins whether you need scoring, rebounding, assists, or defense. There wasn’t a phase of the game he took off at any point no matter who they were playing. But I wouldn’t blame anyone for wanting Lebron. Much like I don’t blame the Rockets for wanting Olajuwon. They got a hall of famer that won two titles. Trailblazers are another story. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Completely agreed. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

That’s fair. I disagree but I think it’s a fine line. In football I think Dan Marino is one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived. But he doesn’t get that recognition due to not winning a title. I think to be that great you have to elevate your teammates. So it’s up to personal interpretation of what makes a player great. If you feel that way that’s fine. I don’t necessarily agree because many individual awards are given to the best players on teams that win. Those same awards are used to determine or argue who is great. It’s a very subjective conversation that I don’t feel there is a right or wrong and it comes down to personal preference. On your list where you added Bird and Magic. Why? Were they great? Sure, but did they have better individual seasons than other players? Some but not a ton. They won. That’s how you remember them. That’s why they are up on the pedestal they are on. John Stockton personally was better than Magic. But he was stoic, not on commercials, and didn’t win a title. It’s personal preference, but if you say you can’t use titles because it’s a team thing, I would argue you could take out MVP, DPOY, etc. Then everyone would blindly say Lebron. There are more elements than individual potential or skill that makes a player great. Imo Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Ha. To be fair what did AD win prior to Lebron? That’s coming from somebody that would defend MJ to the death, because I feel he is the greatest player at his peak. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

That Stuhoo is a Purdue Person. [emoji40] Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Yep. That drove the way we moderated for years. We knew who came on and we wanted to be respectful of that. Unfortunately people feel comfortable saying things about a kid because they aren’t real to them if that makes sense. They are an object on a tv. You best believe, most every player at IU has been on this board or Rivals/Scout/247 at some point over the last 10 years. There is literally no positive they are going to take away from this, only the negative. The athletic office follows these regularly. The family of players follow these. But that is where player bashing rules originated from. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Arguably. Sure. But it is so hard to win a title. At some point your star has to lift you. Him being on this team puts them in this conversation. It’s still impressive no matter how anyone tries and minimizes. I mean Frank Vogel is a solid enough coach, but he isn’t going to elevate them. I would take AD for sure but the rest are interchangeable role players you can find most every year. They look great now because of where they are. When you start selling me on Alex Caruso I know Lebron was having a great year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I don’t know man. If he wins it’s his third different franchise with a title. That’s pretty damn impressive. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Surprised to see him go both left and right off of the dribble. He definitely wasn’t your usual overseas project. His biggest hurdle will be getting and keeping that weight. To be young again. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29094953/ranking-top-74-individual-seasons-nba-history Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Is anyone really surprised by anything with The Last Dance? To this point I can’t say I am. It reaffirms why if I could pick any player in NBA history to be my top pick I would take Jordan. I know a few of us have had discussions over the years of Lebron or Jordan. Jordan’s obsession with winning was always evident, and his ability to always take over at the right times just do it for me. That shot was just so pure. I can’t wait until they do the one with Kobe. Sounds like a film crew followed him around his last year too. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

The crappy thing is we don’t really know if it’s the initial notice of allegations or the revised ones after the University’s response. The difference could mean 6-9 months in final solutions. Curious how the Coronavirus will stall these if at all. Some schools around August should have their final punishments since they received theirs last fall. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners