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So. How do YOU know they don’t tell him the truth? Lol cause your truth is different and it’s full? I am cool with the pissing and moaning but I don’t get that. You are telling him to get away from the politics and in the same post tell him his media lies to him. Lmfao really? I don’t watch Fox or CNN but either side that ultimately says that as a de facto answer isn’t being truthful with themselves they are open to listening to anything. I can find 100 articles saying both sides are wrong. Doesn’t mean I am the keeper of the truth. Before you tell me you said both sides were entertainment, cause I know it’s coming, your words after don’t say FOX is lying. You explicitly tell someone else their station you perceive they watch is lying because You don’t agree with them. You are straight up guilty of what you are trying to lecture someone else on. That’s the part I wish both sides of this argument would take the time to understand. Not one person on here has the “truth”. I sure as hell cant get it from our president. I sure as hell won’t get it from cable news. And I sure as hell won’t find it on here in a place where people try lecturing me on things I have actually worked around for close to 15 years. So where does that leave us? In the words of Aloha, I guess we are all just ****ed and should leave well enough alone here. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

You are correct. There is a lot that goes into it. Much like there is a lot that goes into what makes a player great. Part of what made Jordan so great was his ability to elevate the people he did. His will to win. His competitiveness. That isn’t hyperbole. You knew when you were watching him he didn’t want to just beat you, he wanted to destroy you truly. That isn’t a skill that can be tracked by statistic. That’s why it’s all subjective. Imo if you had a draft of every player in the NBA history Lebron would go 1. He should based on his skillset. I would still even to this day bet in that scenario Jordan would win more than Lebron. That chip on his shoulder would be huge with anyone being picked ahead of him and drive him to greatness. Lebron would still have his great career no doubt. But it’s just splitting hairs. It’s all preference. I prefer to get the guy that continually wins whether you need scoring, rebounding, assists, or defense. There wasn’t a phase of the game he took off at any point no matter who they were playing. But I wouldn’t blame anyone for wanting Lebron. Much like I don’t blame the Rockets for wanting Olajuwon. They got a hall of famer that won two titles. Trailblazers are another story. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

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That’s fair. I disagree but I think it’s a fine line. In football I think Dan Marino is one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived. But he doesn’t get that recognition due to not winning a title. I think to be that great you have to elevate your teammates. So it’s up to personal interpretation of what makes a player great. If you feel that way that’s fine. I don’t necessarily agree because many individual awards are given to the best players on teams that win. Those same awards are used to determine or argue who is great. It’s a very subjective conversation that I don’t feel there is a right or wrong and it comes down to personal preference. On your list where you added Bird and Magic. Why? Were they great? Sure, but did they have better individual seasons than other players? Some but not a ton. They won. That’s how you remember them. That’s why they are up on the pedestal they are on. John Stockton personally was better than Magic. But he was stoic, not on commercials, and didn’t win a title. It’s personal preference, but if you say you can’t use titles because it’s a team thing, I would argue you could take out MVP, DPOY, etc. Then everyone would blindly say Lebron. There are more elements than individual potential or skill that makes a player great. Imo Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Ha. To be fair what did AD win prior to Lebron? That’s coming from somebody that would defend MJ to the death, because I feel he is the greatest player at his peak. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

That Stuhoo is a Purdue Person. [emoji40] Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Yep. That drove the way we moderated for years. We knew who came on and we wanted to be respectful of that. Unfortunately people feel comfortable saying things about a kid because they aren’t real to them if that makes sense. They are an object on a tv. You best believe, most every player at IU has been on this board or Rivals/Scout/247 at some point over the last 10 years. There is literally no positive they are going to take away from this, only the negative. The athletic office follows these regularly. The family of players follow these. But that is where player bashing rules originated from. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Arguably. Sure. But it is so hard to win a title. At some point your star has to lift you. Him being on this team puts them in this conversation. It’s still impressive no matter how anyone tries and minimizes. I mean Frank Vogel is a solid enough coach, but he isn’t going to elevate them. I would take AD for sure but the rest are interchangeable role players you can find most every year. They look great now because of where they are. When you start selling me on Alex Caruso I know Lebron was having a great year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I don’t know man. If he wins it’s his third different franchise with a title. That’s pretty damn impressive. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Surprised to see him go both left and right off of the dribble. He definitely wasn’t your usual overseas project. His biggest hurdle will be getting and keeping that weight. To be young again. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

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Is anyone really surprised by anything with The Last Dance? To this point I can’t say I am. It reaffirms why if I could pick any player in NBA history to be my top pick I would take Jordan. I know a few of us have had discussions over the years of Lebron or Jordan. Jordan’s obsession with winning was always evident, and his ability to always take over at the right times just do it for me. That shot was just so pure. I can’t wait until they do the one with Kobe. Sounds like a film crew followed him around his last year too. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

The crappy thing is we don’t really know if it’s the initial notice of allegations or the revised ones after the University’s response. The difference could mean 6-9 months in final solutions. Curious how the Coronavirus will stall these if at all. Some schools around August should have their final punishments since they received theirs last fall. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Wrong person. RCS will be very confused. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I envision Alaska being able to tell someone in 10 different languages, “I am going to break your neck.” Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Leave me out of your pissing match. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I will also add there are more boats on the lake than a typical non-holiday weekend. Will be crazy tomorrow. Supposed to be gorgeous. There are actually dudes with their waverunners out. Too cold for all of that even in a wet suit. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

It’s a beautiful day today. Time to go take the 4 wheelers on the trail and open them up. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearly-900-workers-at-tyson-foods-plant-in-indiana-test-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB13ssUy?li=BBnb7Kz This was just informative of the situation at the Tyson plant. Sounds like they are trying to make some changes which is good. Tough working environment to change that drastically. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

He will be a senior I believe. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Man I hate that I feel this good about a high level 5* this early in the process, but you can see on tape where he would fit. Without geography being an issue (it’s still not bad here) I love the fit, need, and upside. That backcourt with Lander is an absolute dream scenario. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

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Man that sucks. It was always fun for them to be there. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Personally I would say Chaminade. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

TJD was great as a freshman. I want to see a big jump as a sophomore into one of the top players in the country. He has to for us to be where we want to be. I think he can. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners