Str8Hoosiers

I know you are high on the kid, but I have seen absolutely nothing that says he has the most potential, or is a game changer. There is no way you distribute 105 minutes to Freshmen and 95 to the rest of the team.... then you will be calling for Archie's head when we lose to North Alabama. Again, what makes you say Lander has more potential than any guard on the team? I have seen nothing to say he is better on offense than Rob, Lander has the worst shooting percentage on the team, most turnovers, 0 Off Rebounds. Add that to the fact that he is helpless on Defense and Rob is lock down.... Overall Lander is the LAST guard I want to see playing during any game including this one.... a few minutes here and there yes but not extended minutes... get Leal a few as well but he has shown he isn't ready either.... use the game as it is intended to get time together on the floor against different competition for the lineups we will use moving forward.... Don't have to play anybody full 40 minutes (like Franklin a couple games ago), don't even need to give TJD more 35 (maybe even 30)... but you can't just scrap the practice it gives and give all the minutes to guys who will never (this year at least) play together on the court again.

Why on earth would he do this.... You think it makes Archie not the guy if he doesn't get the worst player on the roster (currently) more minutes instead of using the game to get other guys more comfortable? Lander has the worst 3%, worst FG%, fewest Rebounds, fewest assists (of the guards), and is the most turnover prone guy on the team... but sure, the coach would be an idiot for not playing him 30+ minutes this next game.... WHAT?

And this is to USPS's point... so many different states of mind tat everybody has their own answer. Elite for 1 guy is Top 4 in Conference and consistently in Top 25 Elite for 1 guy is Conference Champion & National Championships And to me it sounds (sorry if I am off here) that both agree Archie is not the guy, or the writing is on the wall, or whatever.... But to me this is a very big distinction... if you want to be Elite for the 1st scenario I believe Archie is there... knocking on the door and not going away.... if you want to be what the 2nd person says is elite then we obviously have a long way to go. I personally think we are heading in the right direction, I like the SLOW process, I don't want to be a 1 year explosion and then disappear again. Archie is recruiting the right guys, they are getting better every year both individually and as a team... the writing is on the wall for a contract extension!

IU 86 North Alabama 59

15 of the 33 predictions correctly predicted an IU Loss. Congrats to @IUfan_Charlie & @MoyeNeeded for correctly predicting IUs Final Score. Congrats to @tkbbn for correctly predicting FSUs Final Score. We are now dropping the 2 lowest scores so the rankings are changed a little (but not the top 2) CURRENT GAME - Florida State OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 Iufan_Charlie 129 1 tkbbn 357 2 DChoosier 120 2 Naturalhoosier 357 3 hper50 118 3 Woodson1980 356 4 tomallenfan 118 4 LamarCheeks 352 5 mdn82 116 5 BottomLine 352 6 HoosierAloha 116 6 MoyeNeeded 347 7 Woodson1980 114 7 DChoosier 347 8 rcs29 114 8 mamasa 346 9 LIHoosier 113 9 HoosierAloha 345 10 LamarCheeks 113 10 Bobman1 344 11 JaybobHoosier 112 11 Feathery 342 12 Class of '66 Old Fart 111 12 hper50 342 13 HoosierTrav 111 13 LIHoosier 341 14 johnsoniu 110 14 tomallenfan 340 15 Josh 106 15 johnsoniu 338 16 MoyeNeeded 81 16 Class of '66 Old Fart 338 17 tkbbn 80 17 mdn82 338 18 IUsafety 71 18 IUc2016 333 19 CyberHoosier 70 19 Str8Hoosiers 332 20 HoosierCoop 69 20 IUsafety 332 21 muttcs66 69 21 cappymo14 332 22 BottomLine 67 22 thebigweave 329 23 Naturalhoosier 67 23 Josh 313 24 Bobman1 67 24 rcs29 313 25 cappymo14 67 25 WayneFleekHoosier 306 26 Crazy about IU 67 26 CyberHoosier 303 27 IUc2016 66 27 Stuhoo 297 28 Stuhoo 66 28 muttcs66 293 29 Str8Hoosiers 65 29 HoosierCoop 292 30 mamasa 65 30 Iufan_Charlie 291 31 thebigweave 63 31 jbell833 288 32 incrediboy 62 32 ALASKA HOOSIER 277 33 ALASKA HOOSIER 36 33 JaybobHoosier 265 34 Feathery 0 34 Skrappy 227 35 theriverpilot 0 35 incrediboy 220 36 WayneFleekHoosier 0 36 HoosierRobbie 214 37 HoosierRobbie 0 37 Crazy about IU 201 38 yogisballin 0 38 yogisballin 178 39 jbell833 0 39 JHoosier914 121 40 Skrappy 0 40 brumdog45 114 41 Barrell Rick 0 41 theriverpilot 111 42 brumdog45 0 42 HoosierTrav 111 43 JHoosier914 0 43 NRT137 105 44 NRT137 0 44 Barrell Rick 0

How this works!!! Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

This is setup for a close game... I want the Good IU to show up and play for 40 minutes! Hit a few 3s, and most of the FTs and we win this one!!! IU 74 FSU 66

To an extent I agree... I would love more like an 80-20 split at the least... I am not sure I agree that most of the anti Archie crowd admit there are good times.... or maybe they admit it to themselves but they sure do not post about them.

21 out of 34 predicted an IU victory today, but I have to say I bet most were due to sheer loyalty... not many saw this one going the way it did... Congrats to @BottomLine & @Woodson1980 for correctly predicting Stanford's Final Score. CONGRATS to @tkbbn for taking over the TOP SPOT on the Leaderboard through 4 games. *** After the next game I will remove the 2 lowest scores from each person so we will have some movement of standings based on that. CURRENT GAME - Stanford OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 BottomLine 126 1 tkbbn 405 2 Woodson1980 123 2 Naturalhoosier 404 3 incrediboy 117 3 Bobman1 402 4 Naturalhoosier 116 4 LamarCheeks 394 5 IUsafety 116 5 MoyeNeeded 392 6 MoyeNeeded 115 6 mamasa 388 7 Feathery 114 7 Woodson1980 385 8 Bobman1 112 8 DChoosier 384 9 tkbbn 112 9 BottomLine 384 10 Str8Hoosiers 111 10 Str8Hoosiers 382 11 cappymo14 111 11 IUc2016 378 12 johnsoniu 111 12 IUsafety 378 13 theriverpilot 111 13 johnsoniu 373 14 DChoosier 110 14 cappymo14 373 15 mdn82 110 15 Class of '66 Old Fart 371 16 thebigweave 110 16 mdn82 371 17 hper50 110 17 tomallenfan 367 18 Josh 108 18 thebigweave 367 19 IUc2016 105 19 WayneFleekHoosier 357 20 mamasa 100 20 Josh 354 21 ALASKA HOOSIER 92 21 Feathery 342 22 LIHoosier 55 22 CyberHoosier 333 23 tomallenfan 54 23 LIHoosier 330 24 HoosierAloha 54 24 HoosierAloha 329 25 CyberHoosier 53 25 Stuhoo 325 26 HoosierCoop 52 26 HoosierCoop 323 27 WayneFleekHoosier 51 27 rcs29 291 28 Stuhoo 51 28 jbell833 288 29 Iufan_Charlie 51 29 ALASKA HOOSIER 287 30 HoosierRobbie 50 30 muttcs66 260 31 LamarCheeks 49 31 Skrappy 227 32 yogisballin 48 32 hper50 224 33 Class of '66 Old Fart 45 33 HoosierRobbie 214 34 rcs29 43 34 yogisballin 178 35 jbell833 0 35 Iufan_Charlie 162 36 JaybobHoosier 0 36 incrediboy 158 37 muttcs66 0 37 JaybobHoosier 153 38 Crazy about IU 0 38 Crazy about IU 134 39 Skrappy 0 39 JHoosier914 121 40 Barrell Rick 0 40 brumdog45 114 41 brumdog45 0 41 theriverpilot 111 42 JHoosier914 0 42 NRT137 105 43 NRT137 0 43 Barrell Rick -56

THIS!!! And I am not calling you out... but go through the Game Thread and see who was posting early and mysteriously stopped as soon as we started to grow a good lead, and show we were going to play well today.... Some of the same posters who post 100 times how terrible Archie is, but never post when things go right.... Trust me, I get some of the frustration, and I know yesterday wasn't just 1 game but a repeat of many past performances... but you know what... today wasn't just 1 good game either... it is a repeat of many past GREAT performances under CAM.

Lander = DGreen All the skills in the world, but will he put it together. I am not saying I am giving up on him... I think he can be a really good piece for us moving forward, even this year in some games... but his bad is just as infuriating....

NICE PASS by Leal

Lander is out of control, got bailed out by a foul, had no chance on that drive... Then a terrible attempt at 3... Then the Refs LATE again... probably a foul but late call.

Franklin has been in attack mode all day!!!!

This is the TJD we need to see ALWAYS!

How does this work? Each week I will create Prediction League threads for the weeks game(s). It's a simple concept: Each week you start with 100 points (only if a prediction is made, otherwise 0 points for the week) +25 PTs if you guess the winner -25 PTs if you pick the loser +10 PTs if guess IU score correctly +10 PTs if guess Opponent score correct -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of IU (over/under doesn't matter) -The # of points different between the actual and predicted score of opponent (over/under doesn't matter) *** Reminder if you post a prediction and want to change it, please just POST a NEW Prediction, do not edit a prior post as I may miss those edits. The person with the most points (MINUS 2 LOWEST GAMES) at the end of the season wins.

IU 69 Stanford 67

6 people correctly predicted an IU loss in this one... and at least for now until we start dropping the 2 lowest scores (probably after game 5 or so) they have taken command of the Leaderboard. Congrats to @Bobman1 & @jbell833 for correctly predicting Texas Final Score. Congrats to @LamarCheeks for taking the top spot. CURRENT GAME - Texas OVERALL RANK Entry Name Score RANK Entry Name Score 1 LamarCheeks 106 1 LamarCheeks 345 2 Class of '66 Old Fart 99 2 Class of '66 Old Fart 326 3 Josh 98 3 tomallenfan 313 4 tomallenfan 91 4 WayneFleekHoosier 306 5 rcs29 84 5 tkbbn 293 6 WayneFleekHoosier 83 6 Bobman1 290 7 Bobman1 58 7 mamasa 288 8 jbell833 57 8 Naturalhoosier 288 9 Str8Hoosiers 50 9 jbell833 288 10 tkbbn 48 10 CyberHoosier 280 11 HoosierCoop 48 11 MoyeNeeded 277 12 DChoosier 48 12 HoosierAloha 275 13 CyberHoosier 47 13 LIHoosier 275 14 Naturalhoosier 47 14 Stuhoo 274 15 LIHoosier 47 15 DChoosier 274 16 HoosierAloha 46 16 IUc2016 273 17 IUsafety 46 17 HoosierCoop 271 18 MoyeNeeded 45 18 Str8Hoosiers 271 19 IUc2016 45 19 Woodson1980 262 20 JaybobHoosier 44 20 johnsoniu 262 21 Stuhoo 43 21 cappymo14 262 22 mdn82 43 22 IUsafety 262 23 mamasa 42 23 mdn82 261 24 cappymo14 41 24 muttcs66 260 25 incrediboy 41 25 BottomLine 258 26 thebigweave 38 26 thebigweave 257 27 muttcs66 36 27 rcs29 248 28 johnsoniu 35 28 Josh 246 29 BottomLine 32 29 Feathery 228 30 Woodson1980 30 30 Skrappy 227 31 Crazy about IU 25 31 ALASKA HOOSIER 195 32 ALASKA HOOSIER 10 32 HoosierRobbie 164 33 Skrappy 0 33 JaybobHoosier 153 34 Iufan_Charlie 0 34 Crazy about IU 134 35 Feathery 0 35 yogisballin 130 36 HoosierRobbie 0 36 JHoosier914 121 37 Barrell Rick 0 37 brumdog45 114 38 brumdog45 0 38 hper50 114 39 hper50 0 39 Iufan_Charlie 111 40 JHoosier914 0 40 NRT137 105 41 NRT137 0 41 incrediboy 41 42 yogisballin 0 42 Barrell Rick -56

I am just saying I didn't see any votes in the MVP thread for Archie Miller yesterday..... That is part of being the coach/manager/leader... I get that... you get blamed for everything bad but others get credit for all the good.

I am sure there are a lot that believe that (less than who believe he does though).... but you are the only 1 that says nothing but that at all times..... The others at least also post accolades when deserved.... Every Coach/Team loses to somebody that they should NEVER lose to... that is why they play the game... it happens... it will continue to happen, to everybody, including IU and whoever the coach is.... if you jump off the cliff every time 1 of those games happens you will never be satisfied.

And yet here you still are.... holding on by a thread... trying to take anybody you can down with you

Too late... many have already made the leap

I think he is upset with himself for his performance so far.... nothing to worry about yet...

The offense doesn't look good, but it is the defense on both sides causing that... It can be a low scoring game and at the end we are in the advantage because they have foul trouble... We just need to keep the intensity on both ends and I am confident we pull out the W.... Not every game is going to be a 21 point blowout from the start

Keep Drawing Fouls! I know there is nothing bet negative vibes in here today... but I like what I am seeing. Playing a Ranked team, down 2 with 11 minutes to go in the 1st half...