KathywithaC

Sure there is. It may not happen but panicky decisions now ensure that it won’t.

None of this is rational or clear-headed. I get it, you’re a fan and emotional, but that’s not a great way to evaluate anything or make decisions.

That’s our difference - you judge on one or two games (two in late November versus one in early December) versus the program. My goal is a better program.

Fire him today and remove any chance of a successful season?

Crean was no better than Woodson as a coach and he squandered far more talented teams than MW has been able to assemble.

You obviously didn’t follow the program at that time.

I get that people want to win and that it’s not happening. They’re the same people that loved Crean and that thought Archie Miller was the right choice, as well. Hard to put much stock in what they say.

None of that would transpire the way you’ve sketched it out. And the only “hostile” fans aren’t really worth appeasing if building the program back up is the goal.

No, he doesn’t work as hard as Cig, but that’s only one issue. You know who did? Tom Crean. You want him back?

Fire him now?

I get that Woodson doing this would make you feel better, but how does that make the program better?

What’s your solution?

Exactly, there’s no benefit to the program. Dolson will do his job, just like he did with football.

Absolutely none of this do you know to be a fact. I get the rumor and innuendo and your reliance on it as fact, but it’s still not anything you know to be true.

No, I’m just the person who’s followed the program for decades and been around the University for just as long. Always enjoy the perspective of newer fans.

Be frustrated all you want - I guess our fan base isn’t immune to this kind of stuff. Frustrating for those of us who’ve been around the program for a long time and have seen how successful it was. Times, and fan bases, change.

That’s part of my point here - You and a few others are quick to believe third hand rumors and innuendo without any actual knowledge whatsoever. I guess I understand that’s what losing does to some people, but it’s kind of mindless, don’t you think? And all because we had a really lousy weekend in the Bahamas?

Like what? Lazy? For recruiting, absolutely. Insecure and petty? Not sure about that. Narcissist? Based on what?

At this point, what is it that you want done? I understand your disappointment with the program, though I’m not at all sure you’ve floated any solutions. How long have you been an IU fan?

That’s been embellished quite a bit.

I’ve been very consistent, you’re just not hearing what you want to hear. Sorry to disappoint.

That’s fine. I hadn’t posted in some time and wanted to give people some insight into where things stand. I realize not everyone likes to hear that. As I said earlier, the louder the noise the less informed people generally are about any subject, including this one. Thanks for setting me straight.

Do you honestly believe Woodson wants his legacy to be that he helped run our storied basketball program into the ground and that, as long as he’s well paid, he’s fine? Do you really not understand that he loves IU and all it did for him? Do you really not understand the same about Buckner, who’s been associated with the University for over 50 years? I get that people are disappointed that the program hasn’t elevated to a national level, but some of the stuff mentioned here is really outlandish and nonsensical. Woodson will either get things going or he’ll get pushed out. Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

Not close to accurate. I’m just trying to let people here know how things are viewed from the IU perspective. You can criticize to your heart’s content, but there’s a way this stuff will get done. The louder the criticism, the less informed people seem to be.

The “basketball world” shouldn’t be our concern, and the vast majority of the fans aren’t as panicked as a few people on the internet who take tiny amounts of rumor and innuendo and convert it into fact at the speed of light. Woodson has his hands full and he’s very likely approached it wrong from Day One. There’s been some blow back related to recruiting that’s reminiscent of the Mike Davis years, and it’s really troubling. I wouldn’t wager dollar one that he’s our coach come April. But our troubles started years ago, beginning from the time when we mishandled Knight’s successor all the way through until now. We’ve been plagued by leadership issues that have made having a successful program less and less likely, and we’ve consistently failed to recognize the consequences of putting people in charge who were horrible fits. Finally, they have a guy in Dolson who is the right AD, but he had a ton of cleaning up to do (and he’s still doing it). Several of his predecessors were really poor at hiring and “stewarding” almost anything they touched, and many of the people they brought in were simply not qualified. I have no doubt SD will do the right thing here, but he’s not firing Woodson in early December based on a lousy trip to the Bahamas.