Unexpectedflash

I guess my view of the program is different than others because a guy that has had top 30 teams the last 3 years in the best conference in America would be enough for me. I don’t think we’re good enough to just go steal a top 10 coach in the country from someone else as much as I’d like us to.

This board would probably do a better job than Dolson if he thinks this year was a fluke

I saw someone throw out TJ otzelberger a while ago so i decided to look more into it and im intrigued and he feels gettable. He had top 30 kenpom teams his first two years at Iowa st but that was on the back of top 10 defenses. This year his offense has taken a big leap (kenpom 43) along with a top 5 defense and if that’s sustainable hes exactly what we need. Top 10 recruiting class at Iowa st last year. Only makes 2.5 million and is from Milwaukee. He’s leading the best conference in America this year.

Is Mike’s solution to all of this really just work harder? Sounds like a guy with zero idea on how to actually turn this around

I think for me whatever new coach we get better be flexible. It has been infuriating watching Woody and Archie before that be so rigid to their systems. I get big in season changes are difficult but we have played the same ugly style of basketball for the last 6 years now. If you see something isn't working do something to fix it. Scott drew changed his entire defensive scheme from zone to their aggressive man to man and they won a title after. I want things like that. Give me an innovator. Up to dolson to find that if he actually cares about us being great again.

Their defense has taken a big step back (99 on kenpom now). I just know our fanbase and if we had a final four team that returned 14 out of 15 people and did not get much better there would be questions. I like Dusty don't get me wrong but I think having concerns is valid. He is not a slam dunk when we need one after all the losing. In all likelihood he is probably the best we can get and I could see him succeeding but it's not the given a lot of people want to make it out to be.

Honestly my hope is Woodson goes the Roy Williams route. Roy was an infinitely better coach than woody but his last season he realized he wasn’t the best man for the job and stepped down. That’s a guy that truly loves his school. You still see him at the games. Obviously i can’t tell someone to not take the money but giving woody 6 million makes everyone happy and he can go to games and represent the program that way.

Idk FAU needs to stop losing. I understand the hesitance. We’ve gotten this wrong so many times. In all reality he’s only had one great year.

I’m sorry paying woody 4 million to shake some hands and go to games would be crazy even though that’s kind of what we’re doing right now.

One thing about Drew is he is very open about his religion and that’s a lot easier at Baylor than some other schools. He probably wouldn’t leave but I’d offer him 8 mill to make him think about it

Since i don’t think we’ll get a drew, oats, or pearl like I dream of I really just hope Dusty’s team wins out. They are a bad defensive team and I don’t know if it’s because of the scheme or because they play a bunch of 6’2 guys around a slow center. Kind of annoying we start talking about scherz and May and then their teams start losing. Life as a Hoosier fan.

Am i misremembering or didn’t Greg have an agreement with OSU before they hired holtman that fell apart? He’s a great coach but he’s 60 so hopefully he doesn’t want to leave.

Who knows dusty could very well be an elite recruiter here. There’s no way to tell one way or the other. Kids want to play in a system that is fun and will maximize their strength. Even Archie who had a terrible offensive system and doesn’t seem like the most personable guy got a top 10 class. Every new coach here will most likely get the new coach recruiting bump and it’s up to them to take advantage of that so they continue to get talent.

I agree. Treys my favorite player on this team but we ask way too much from him. We ask him to guard the other teams best perimeter player and be our best perimeter player on offense which shouldn’t be his role. The three guard lineups last year before Xavier got hurt were my favorite and we’d all be ecstatic if he was our third best guard.

I honestly don’t think we’d get more than a few transfers. I find it hard to believe we’d have an easier time attracting guards nexts year than we did this year after JHS was a first rounder. We are so easy to negatively recruit against now. All you have to do is show people our offense. A good year to me next year is like 20-12 and a first round loss. Are we really in a better spot after that than just letting the new coach start a year early.

This whole thread is basically him vs everyone and I’m honestly kind of impressed by the persistence. Singlehandedly helped add at least 5 pages today

Why is it zero? Dusty kept his entire team this year when I’m sure bigger names were calling. Malik would thrive with more space around him and McNeely as a shooter sure fits Dusty’s offense better than whatever Mike runs. I’m not sure Malik stays with Mike another year. Other schools will definitely call and i would listen if i was him

No we would not have their record. We barely could beat army earlier this year. The big ten sucks this year and we’re still not very good. I’m not as sold as dusty as some but you’re looking at him with the worst lens possible and looking at Woodson with only the best which i don’t think is fair. I also prefer scherz but i think dusty can succeed here.

Eh you add johnell who’s an all American along with Reneau and mcneely you have a pretty good core right there. I don’t know if Goldin is good enough for the big ten but transfer portal can get you another big. Think we’d surely be better than this year.

I was watching the pacers last night and Quinn actually brought up what an amazing job Josh Schertz is doing at ISU. He doesn’t usually talk about college basketball during the pacers games. If Quinn can see that maybe he can see Mike isn’t cut out for this or at least that’s what I’m hoping.

I mean Indiana st and FAU would beat us easily. We’re not very good and they’re both top 30 teams. Probably would be similar to the nebraska game

I’m tired of hearing about this hump

You know the weird thing is we play nothing like his Knicks teams. Those teams were top 5 in 3 point attempts for the 2.5 years he was there and his best year they lead the league. Someone has to ask Mike why his system now is so different than how he said we’d play at his opening press conference and even when he had his most successful season with the Knicks.

I agree with this. Prolonged regular season success is more important to me than one tourney run. Doing it at two schools also helps and it only took him two years for ISU to get back. I’ve seen FAU come out flat very often this year which has me hesitant. The final four is awesome but if he loses to Memphis in the second round are we still having this conversation. Plus Johnell Davis is an all American in a mid major conference and has taken over games at the end. How much of that is good coaching and how much of that is having a player that is just better than everyone else? That i can’t answer.

You know Archie may just be a bad coach lol