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[quote name="EvilleAngler" post="52957" timestamp="1395705978"]I think he looks stressed..this just posted 9 min ago on twitter Sent from the gym using BtownBanners When was that pic taken? [/quote] It was posted on twitter today but this was in fact taken before an IU game earlier in the season. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="TheStillman" post="52933" timestamp="1395703065"]My question is more that everyone is having a big mea culpa because this is now common knowledge that Stan and Troy failed drug tests. BUT can someone outline these sources and everything? To many reading this its just internet talk regardless of whether admins on here approve of it or followed it to the top. In fairness to those two can we ALL get some backup info?[/quote] I am not sure what you want but the information I post is first hand Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[attachment=640:ImageUploadedByBtownBanners1395704020.485457.jpg] I think he looks stressed..this just posted 9 min ago on twitter Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="Rayl" post="52906" timestamp="1395701417"]Sorry for originally doubting you. Your information has proven itself. Do you know if Glass or anyone higher up knows about the failed drug tests and the lack of internal response?[/quote] No problem..I have no information on what Glass knows at the moment. But I do know they day the tests came back. It was huge hush hush and everyone was asked to leave. It was thought to be this big turning point with some changes and instead they started the Penn State game. When I tried to say something early in the year some asked me to remove it from my twitter. I obliged .. I am not trying to make waves but the truth makes the picture a little clearer. Jeremy was out 2 games for 2 failed tests and that was "motivation" ... Clearly not the motivation he needed. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="JaybobHoosier" post="52889" timestamp="1395700409"]Sorry for being pushy the first time you came around. Sounds like what you say is correct (with another source saying the same things you are). I will just leave it at that. Just wish it was untrue.[/quote] No problem I just wanted fans to know that a band aid and a summer were not the cure..if you understand my analogy Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="Indymike7" post="52805" timestamp="1395691953"]I think that your place in the program's future directly reflects your punishment for breaking the rules. Should never be that way. Jeremy lost his focus and got sat down for 3 or 4 games. Hanner got arrested and only suspended 2. Someone tell me how that adds up?[/quote] And Troy and Stan failed drug tests and started the next game! Go figure that one... Speaks volumes of the exodus Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="Rayl" post="52680" timestamp="1395687619"]Mo said he left because he didn't feel like there was a place for him. He felt that it wasn't right that other players jumped over him while he was injured. He left to find a place where he could get the playing time he felt he deserved.[/quote] This is correct! And they wanted him to move on Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="EvilleAngler" post="52597" timestamp="1395681647"]He's the one that said it was lacking.. not being ignored. [/quote] Right sorry I was trying to back you not criticize Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="theriverpilot" post="52610" timestamp="1395682232"]Sheehey was a leader. I didn't see that quality from AE on the court. Then again, I'm not at the practices or in the locker room either. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] Yes this true but Will was a senior with I don't care, do what I say attitude and a part of the elite club from last year. Also Will is one the smartest players on the floor.. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

Hollowell is not a Crean fan. He got benched when Troy and Stan did not. With that said, Hollowell is lazy and probably wants to get out of spring workouts. But he has not expressed either way. After workouts today we will see who shows. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="EvilleAngler" post="52587" timestamp="1395681036"]AE was in his 3rd yr... you saying he lacked vet leadership?[/quote] You can lead but they don't follow. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="CampCrean" post="52588" timestamp="1395681061"]Someone just said because he wouldn't have his 5th year schooly. Or that his friends are gone. Honestly, if it's because of friends, he needs to be a man and make new ones off the court. You aren't always going to like everyone you play with. [/quote] When people play in front of you who are breaking team rules and don't know the plays, and getting away with it ...it is time for a change Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="CampCrean" post="52566" timestamp="1395680407"]I mean, is anyone really worried about this loss? Glad he helped get Cody but as Rayl pointed out we have so many wings already. He saw solid PT this year but turned down a lot of shots. Other than just personally liking the kid I don't see this as a loss that will affect the team very much next year. [/quote] It is not that he IS leaving but the "why" he is leaving is the most important point. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="BlueDevil2aHoosier" post="52550" timestamp="1395680027"]Maybe a little reassurance from crean could motivate him into a big summer. It shouldn't be that way but who knows.[/quote] Maybe less positive drug tests would help too Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

Hate to say I told you so but... There is lack of respect from all that went down this year... Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

There you go next Johnny Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="pappy1865" post="49498" timestamp="1395110618"]No clue what his major is, or if it's even offered at ISU. Will he graduate this summer? If so, AND if ISU offers what he wants and would be in Grad school, then no, he plays right away. If not, he sits. Camp Crean has it right.[/quote He is graduating Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="CampCrean" post="49494" timestamp="1395110225"]For being such an insider you have little to no idea how transferring works. The only reason Mo Creek and Evan Gordon could play right away is the Grad School exception. If the school you're transferring from does not offer your specific Graduate program, you can transfer to a school that does and use your remaining eligibility without having to sit out a year.[/quote] Hmm Austin maybe lol Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="pappy1865" post="49340" timestamp="1395093476"]Unless he transfers to State to play with his brother, but he'd still have to sit out a year.[/quote Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure he will not have to sit out a year ie. Evan Gordan, Maurice Creek Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="CampCrean" post="49249" timestamp="1395083958"]Etherington and Marlin are going pro? We really should have utilized them more![/quote] Seriously Did you even read the thread .. Two transfers and Noah going pro smh Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

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[quote name="HoosierAloha" post="49223" timestamp="1395080373"]So Marlin and Etherington with Bonleh going pro? (What you suggested in another thread) Sent from my sarcastic iPhone using BrownBanners[/quote] At this time ..that is all I know Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

[quote name="8bucks" post="49164" timestamp="1395073763"]So if you guys are in the know, how many transfers are likely. You don't have to mention names but curious if there is some potential for more than one. Would also be curious to know more on your take about not respecting coach. Yogis mom has tweeted the opposite a couple of times. I realize sometimes players say different things to friends vs parents and wonder if that is part of the discrepancy here. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] 2 transfers most likely and one pro Probably know by Monday when individuals begin Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

There can be a difference between your moral compass, surviving your job and knowing what is helping the kid(s) or hurting. You may not want to turn your own kid in for drugs but you know it might help... What to do? Sent from the gym using BtownBanners

Cuban pays big bucks to IU and has a great relationship with Crean. Crean holds a big camp for millionaires and they all spend time at his house. Cuban is one of these special people that participates. Crean is well liked, that is why it is hard to separate the man from the coach. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners