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The game will more than likely be rained out but Manny Machado is being activated from the DL today.  The defensive maestro is back!   Let's Go O's!  

[quote name="Basketball4iU" post="63500" timestamp="1398658055"]This is so true !!! And what about probation because he was in the bars this weekend! In the gym[/quote] Isn't he 21? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="63000" timestamp="1398559025"]The way he was playing even early in the year the staff should've known it was a very real possibility. To say know one saw it coming means even during the year no one knew, and that is either a complete lie or they were blind.[/quote] But the point remains in order to plan for it recruiting wise they would've needed to anticipate this in April 2012. There was just no indication that Oladipo was not going to be a 4 year player at that point. Look back at previews in fall 2012 of that team. It's almost comical because Oladipo isn't even mentioned, it's all Zeller, Watford and Hulls. Of course we all knew what we had in Oladipo but I think if you polled most of IU fans and writers who follow the team a high majority (>90%) would have said that Oladipo would be here in 2013-14. You live in this world where hindsight is 20-20 and it makes you seem smart but your gripe with Crean on this is a bit ridiculous. No one in spring 2012, when it would have mattered for planning future year rosters, thought Oladipo was gone. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="62991" timestamp="1398557602"]"No one foresaw Cody or Vic leaving early"- Crean I still say that line is pure BS.[/quote] Honest question almighty JS did you know Vic would leave early? Look back to November 2012, show me where anyone was predicting Victor leaving for NBA early. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

[quote name="KingPG21" post="62876" timestamp="1398535182"]..... So we can only hire mediocre coaches now? The argument that we should just ride it out with Crean just seems completely insane to me. If he continues to be mediocre as a coach how can that be seen as acceptable. [/quote] What's insane is firing a coach at the cost of $14 million dollars a year after winning the conference and being #1 most of year. "Riding it out" is not the same as giving coach the benefit of one down year before running him out of town. Let's see what happens next year Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="Hoosier2014" post="62853" timestamp="1398528339"]Im a senior at IU and hangout with a few football players.[/quote] Convincing source! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

For a first head coaching stop winning 66% of games over 9 years, bringing a program to its first final 4 in almost 30 years and leading a program from being a mid major to being in arguably the best conference at that time with little drop off in record is pretty impressive. Not sure your definition of great but Crean's resume at Marquette isn't mediocre and it is pretty close to what a resume would look like for most candidates that would replace him. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

  Josh Pastner would be a terrible hire

  What are you even talking about?

  BINGO.  Really do not understand what people want from Crean and Glass.  You ask them to give some answers as to why all this is happening and in the same breath you say no more excuses.  If they would have a big press conference with answers on why all this is happening you'd say they're just making excuses.

  When a player is put in a game and the fans boo it does not matter if it was directed at coach.  The player knows they are booing because the he is in the game, which I'm sure is very encouraging and makes the player want to stick around to play for these fans.

  Please source this or don't post it.  As far as I know he himself has not let it be known.  "Insiders" with clear agendas have claimed that Calbert was "not impressed" with the program but never sourced it.

[quote name="basketball4u" post="61627" timestamp="1398182235"]I never said he wasn't happy, there may have been some philosophical differences. Sent from the gym using BtownBanners[/quote] No I get that what I'm saying is that you are speaking for him whether you like it or not given the way people view you on the board. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

  My point is he shouldn't act like he's not speaking for KJ and Calbert by making these claims because to some he has "credibility" on here.  By acting like an insider he is speaking for them.

  IU won that game where the fans booed Crean.  In addition the opposing coach lauded Crean after because he came up with such a creative defensive gameplan.  Booing the coach and team is not something to be proud of.  In fact a lot of people are mad about Marlin leaving and blame Crean, any chance that he is leaving because every time he was brought in the game he was booed by his own fans?

  By acting as an insider on a free message board and posting this kind of thing you speak for KJ just like you speak for Calbert.  Now everyone will just say "bball4u said KJ wasn't happy with Crean!  He said it and he's in the know!"

[q uote name="JSHoosier" post="61463" timestamp="1398138250"]You don't think playing in the NBA would help?[/quote] To be honest I don't think his 80 games spread over 3 seasons in NBA will help. He didn't really experience much success It always rubs me the wrong way that the guy openly promotes himself for the job on twitter while also tweeting multiple times with anti-Crean posts. Just not really someone who I think is ready for prime time as a major D1 assistant Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

No one on here or any other board knew who Kenny Johnson was when we hired him. Let's find the next one Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="61437" timestamp="1398136585"]I don't think he'd be bad. Playing professionally might help recruiting, and winning 2 straight championships and 3 straight division titles in the PBL doesn't sound too bad.[/quote] You really think any recruit is going to come to IU because an assistant won anything in the PBL? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="61427" timestamp="1398135898"]Yes, Guyton. The same AJ Guyton that played professionally in the NBA and overseas and won two straight championships in a professional minor league.[/quote] Yeah like I said IU can and should do better. Admittedly I don't know the top up and coming assistants but I am fairly sure Guyton isn't one Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="61424" timestamp="1398135711"]*ring ring ring* "Hello?" "Hello, AJ, how would you like to return to IU?"[/quote] Guyton? We can and should do better than him Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="WayneHoosier" post="61421" timestamp="1398135505"]I realize that word is far too strong but Rojo, Troy, and Stan are strongly connected to KJ. JB2 very close to KJ also, maybe not the same but........ These guys were clearly recruited by KJ.[/quote] Yes they were recruited by KJ, the recruiting coordinator. One door closing opens other opportunities. There's other assistants who can recruit out there Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[quote name="WayneHoosier" post="61414" timestamp="1398135104"]Now we have an even more fractured team possibly. 3 of our projected starters are KJ disciples and another big time guy of the bench in TW, Stan, JB2, and ROJO. This can't be good for these guys. My gosh. I knew he was gone when news broke, as I even started this thread but Damn.[/quote] KJ disciples c'mon man! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

    If Lee goes anywhere it is to the NBA.  No doubt he would be selected in the 1st round.

  We win our first outright B1G title in 20 years and people call it mediocre.  You guys are delusional.