TrueHoosier62

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My assertion was not based on whether Bob Knight fished at the expense of recruiting. It was based on the truths of his brand of basketball versus today's. Not saying he could find kids to employ it, only that "if" he could, he could run the table against anything I've seen this year. 

And I can say with relative certainty that if Bob Knight could field a team that carried out his style of ball, without any changes and in today's tournament, he'd mop up another trophy.

Correction, Bob Knight had the buffer of THREE national championships, 11 Big Ten Championships, an extraordinarily high graduation rate, and not even a hint of scandal from the NCAA. That's not our imagination or something we achieved by looking back through rose colored glasses. Those are facts. People who win championships don't have to be flexible. 

The key point to your post being, "after the 76 season". Winning a national championship, and nearly winning two, will buy a coach time with the fan base. Wins alone, do not.

Applause to you, sir.

In case you're not told often enough, I like your posts. Keep up the good work.

Or Jeremy Hollowell, or Troy Williams, or Devin Davis, or Peter Jurkin, or Hanner Perea, or.....

Not particularly. I'm not beholden to any political party or person that tells me what to think or feel, so I sure as hell don't need a sports channel telling me.

ESPN Reminds me a bit of MTV. When MTV started, it was all about music videos. Then, as time went by, they began to add "shows", and the total number of videos began to diminish. Eventually, the channel became almost devoid of music videos, but had tons of shows that very few of the original viewers cared to watch. At one time, everyone loved ESPN because unlike one's local news, where one had to wait until 5:25 in the evening to catch the scores and highlights, ESPN gave those to you 24/7, and the focus was on the games and highlights. Then it started to become more about the on-air personalities, and human interest stories. As the years have gone by, the format has changed to the point where scores and highlights are almost secondary to stories of various content, most of which are uninteresting, manipulative, or redundant. The announcers all vie to see who can either be the funniest or shocking in their commentary, and as someone else here said, "can coin the next catch phrase". Lately, I see where they've decided to try and educate the masses about politics, giving us yet another source for classic northeast liberal dogma. I'd like to think that the only thing they're good for these days is watching an actual game, but then I remember that their court side "analysts" are just extensions of the same morons found in the studio in Bristol, so one has to endure those blathering fools while trying to follow play. It's getting more and more difficult to just "watch a game" these days.

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For once, I had to agree with Dakich. No team benefited more than Indiana did from having Yogi; and it's not even close.

Of course. Although, when one uses the phrase, "all aboard", someone will invariably use the "train wreck" analogy. I won't; but someone could. :-)

Indeed.

Listen, I'm as happy as anyone that we won last night. In Iowa City. On senior night. Big win. But really, raise your hand if you uttered the phrase, "Jesus Christ", at least once during the second half? Frankly, I uttered this phrase so many times that my wife thought I was starting a church in our living room. Stepping on the inbound, no pump fakes, no lean ins, unforced turnovers, defensive lapses, mental errors. A fourteen point lead can evaporate of course, but as is usually the case with Crean's teams, it's "us" giving the lead back, not "them" taking it from us. And as is my habit, I also consider the fact that Iowa, for all their great wins, haven't been winning much lately, having dropped several straight. They were also playing for the second time in 48 hours. Yet, (and despite his heroic three), Yogi looked dead on his feet at the 4:00 mark, consistently hitting the front end of the rim. Much to be happy about, but too many questions for it being this late in the season.

I don't get the reasoning behind anyone who would come to a "Fire Tom Crean" thread, and demand that it be closed down? The more logical approach would be, don't come to the thread. 

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I don't know that he should be fired if he loses tonight, but there's no denying that a loss to Iowa would reinforce in many people's minds, (mine included), that he's about at the ceiling of his capabilities. He is the poster boy for the "Peter Principle". The fact is, there are a LOT of coaches out there, like Crean, who're very good, but only to a point, and no further. Lou Henson was one. Gene Keady was one. Thad Matta is one. Bo Ryan was one. Ray Meyer was one. Bob Huggins is one. All very good coaches, but with limitations that keep them from winning it all. And at Indiana, it's about winning it all. Not just games, not just BTTs, not the NIT, but the whole thing. Until he wins one, there will always be a "Fire Crean" thread, and really, there should be.

I hope you just made a typo, and didn't actually mean to refer to some of us as "pasty" banner-head fans as a form of derision. And by "pasty", I assume you mean old, white, Bob Knight lovin', national championship flag wavin', bologna sandwich eating, coke drinking, rowdy IU fans; yes? Come to think of it, I should thank you, if that's what you meant. I'm all of those things. Not sure how others here might take that though. Some of them probably don't like bologna. 

A true Hoosier fan does not hate Tom Crean. Tom Crean is just a man trying his best to win a title here, and there's nothing to hate about that. No, a true Hoosier hates there being nearly 30 years in between titles. A true Hoosier hates watching a product that despite 20 plus wins, still exhibits too many flaws to seriously challenge an end to that drought. A true Hoosier hates being told that all is right, when they know better. Again, I understand your point of view, and I respect it. I just don't agree with it.

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And for the record, I don't know what it takes to win a title, but I know greatness when i see it, and so do you. We're fans of the greatest University in America, and we saw that greatness displayed on the court it in 76' and 80'. And It's not living in the past to use a matrix of championship traits to measure current teams by; it's wisdom. Crean's teams are competitive, and at times, exhilarating to watch, but they don't cover enough of their shortcomings to be a National Champion.