Woodsonshump

There is no history of success because the university doesn't care about football. If that's not obvious, I don't know what to say. While I agree with your premise of laying the foundation and all of that, it is a moot point if the university doesn't make football every bit the priority that basketball has historically been. It really is as simple as that. What coach of any stature would WANT to come here given the lackadaisical support that this program has had? Answer? Nobody. That's why you get the names we've had, and will continue to have. Football is the bastard stepchild, and until the powers that be decide to change that mentality, nothing else matters.

Indiana is bad because Indiana could not care less about its football program. Unless and until that changes, Indiana will always be bad. Doesn't matter who the coach is. When the powers that be are ready and willing to throw the bank at football, Indiana can then be good. Not until. I'm still not convinced that Indiana even cares about basketball at this point, but that's another conversation altogether.

Just remember, this is what the fan base has been screaming for ever since RMK was fired. Just have to have an IU guy running things. Now they've got it. Careful what you ask for, that's going to most likely be the lesson to learn here with CMW.

Might as well get used to mediocrity, because if it takes a few years to fire a non-IU grad, they'll never fire a native son. This, my friends, is the new Indiana basketball.

Yes, actually you do. Heaven forbid you actually require these kids to grow up and be responsible. Stupidity costs, they need to learn these lessons now.

We don’t have a coach who can throw a good right smack on someone. Woody needs to hit the punching bag in the off season.

No it’s a true statement.

Because we let them. Everything that happened in the last 9 minutes was all on Indiana. They got lazy and sloppy.

Howard is a thug, has a track record of being such. Fire him and just like any other NCAA violation, slap a show cause on him as to why he should ever get another coaching job.

I agree. Would be really interesting to do a “post-mortem” to see if we can figure out exactly what went wrong and why.

And Fife it is.

They did.

Some of us were never on the Stevens train to begin with.

Because in the feeble, simpleton mindset, whatever happened somewhere else just has to happen at Indiana. They can't process it any other way.

I do believe that once all the dust settles, and everybody adjusts to the fact that their guy didn't get the job, they'll realize that 1) one of our own is at the helm; 2) he will be afforded the appropriate transitional learning curve; 3) he will not only be coaching but working to once again instill that IU basketball culture that has been long gone. Give the man an opportunity. The program doesn't need rebuilt as it did when CTC inherited the mess he did, but it does need the right culture instilled once and for all, and the right people brought in who believe in and will embrace and promote that right culture. If IU fans turn on one of their own, then that speaks worse for our fan base than for our coach. Fact is, everybody will be waiting to see how this goes, but I think it has tremendous, mostly unseen potential, and shows Dolson is thinking outside the proverbial box. Everybody thinks this is risky for IU. So it may be. We look back, it was risky hiring Archie. But it is just as risky for Woodson who is heading toward the end of his career, and I'm sure he'd like to cap it off with a good run at IU, so it is equally risky for him. It is also just as risky for Dolson, as if he gets this wrong in the end, he's done as an AD. Talk about one and done. Anyhow, let's all relax and support our new coach as he seeks to return IU to a winning culture that we all once appreciated (and still do). I think he's going to raise a lot of eyebrows and surprise a lot of people.

Hey, Kravitz wasn't smart enough to turn the TV down while he was on the phone.

Exactly. Sure there are plenty of soft kids today, but there are a ton of kids out there that want to be disciplined, and who want to be really coached. That argument is a bunch of bunk if you ask me.

Again, players come and go all the time when coaching changes are made. If they want to be here, fine. If not, fine. I'm quite confident in Woodson's tone meaning that he wants them to see that IU is a great place to be and to play ball. He's dealt with more finicky personalities in the NBA. In the end, if they want to go, he's gonna say go. I'm quite certain that when the day is done, whoever leaves will have left not because Mike Woodson is the coach, but rather that they didn't like what Mike Woodson was going to expect of them. Stop.

No it won’t. Players come and go all the time when a coaching change occurs. If they go, they go. Just as Woodson wants to be at IU, you want players who want to be at IU too. Quit playing Chicken Little. Your schtick is way past old already.

Just like a physician, the first rule is to do no harm. With Woodson, you can be assured he’ll do no harm to the IU basketball program. He loves it too much. He’s gonna be fine. Surround with the best people, lean on Matta as you learn the college landscape, it’s gonna work out. Just have a good feeling about Coach and this hire.

And Midol. Lot of cramping going on today.

It’s official.

Plus, what few people are even talking about... Woodson is an IU grad. He's coming home to coach his alma mater. This is just a risky move for him as it is for IU. I mean, he fails, how do you think that will play out in B-town? How do you think his reputation will take a hit? On the surface, this hire looks really baffling, but when you step back and start thinking about it, could very well be a stroke of genius.

Runs deeper than just what you see on the surface. Matta knows the college game. His role likely will be to help Woodson transition from the pros to college. There's a lot for him to get hold of making that transition. Having a seasoned veteran like Matta makes that transition a heck of a lot smoother. NCAA rules and regs, recruiting landscape, and on and on...