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Have we not already known who it is since Dolson was named? I have been out of the loop for some time, so forgive me if what I just said sounds stupid.

Sad shame, I like many of you had high hopes and expectations for the teams assembled by Coach Miller, and sorry to see it end without any glory. Oh well. It was an extremely disappointing year in so many ways, basketball and otherwise.

This program needs a good shot in the arm! (sorry people!)

I'll be back later for the punishment I deserve for saying it like that.

wow. how terrible. so sad to hear. it's like losing any other IU legend. it's a big loss. thanks for the many great memories, mile, and thanks for the several board legacies you helped to create. hard to imagine an IU sports message board experience without you. peace and love.

Geronimo and Galloway looking early like they know where they are supposed to be and what they are supposed to do. Me likey.

Durham

Lander

Phinisee or Hunter

Smith

Jackson-Davis

I think those are the guys who are going to start and get the most minutes, then

Franklin

Brunk

Thompson

in no particular order rotate in/out

and then let's see if one of the other freshmen is able to crash the party. I think the most likely candidates to do so are in this order

Geronimo because of the defense, motor, mindset and overall measurables and athletic ability

Leal if he can shoot from jump and if we still need shooting because nobody else on the team got better at shooting over the offseason.

Galloway if most of our guys are lost and don't know what they are doing and Galloway has the bb iq he is supposed to be coming in with.

Is the staff still looking to add a shooter to the mix, a one year grad transfer? Might as well pickup that insurance policy imo. It does not cost much if the guy is a one year player and we still have the scholly for 2021. 

I like this team a lot, and think we should be able to compete. I like that the end of our bench looks like someone in that bunch could possibly be a band-aid w/o getting completely slaughtered if/when we need a band-aid for a short time. I also like that we are not counting on the freshmen not named Lander to be ready to fill a lot of important minutes. If one or two of those guys breakout and show they belong, then that is gravy this year, not the meat and potatoes. 

On 5/6/2020 at 5:43 PM, HoosierAloha said:

When was the last time the Big Ten really dominated in recruiting rankings though? The Big Ten is more of a get old, stay old league while the $EC and ACC are raking in the 5* with “straight cash money, homie.”


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Without delving into it yet to back my following statement up with facts, on first glance it appears to this IU fan that Illinois has made it back into the pros after a significant absence.

On 4/29/2020 at 11:32 AM, HoosierAloha said:

I’d be happy if it developed like the unheralded 2010 class.. I’m not saying Geronimo will be Oladipo but that class wasn’t hyped. We got a star that developed and an extremely important role player.


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I remember some people trashing the 2010 class pretty good in 2010. 

I do not see this coming to fruition.

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Have no idea what was in his head to come.  It obvious how sick he was pre-game.

If he can't win it then nobody can?  I mean, he's gonna die anyway, so who cares, right?

glad we got to see the football players.  that was cool.

omg would have sucked so bad if after our football team finally beats nebraska if their football players had beaten our basketball team.. wow that could have sucked real bad.

Hoiberg's not on the bench, right?

OK so Hoiberg has the coronavirus.  Did he give it to Katz then in the pre-game interview?  That was Katz, right?  I am so confused.

I want to see the football players.  Come on, man.

7 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Funny that I'm now hoping that games do get played in empty stadiums and not just suspended/canceled.

I don't see the NCAA cancelling/suspending the tournament.  But of course I never thought I would see Chicago cancel the dyeing of the river and all 3 St Patrick's Day parades.  (Side note:  the awesome priest at Old St Pat's here was so proud of being named the Grand Marshall of the downtown parade, he mentioned it in his homily last Sunday, probably at every service because he got stuck doing all the masses last week lol.  They have like 10ish services on Sundays.)

When was the last time we were ahead of a team by 20 points?  Remember when we always went ahead of every team by 20 points?  It was just a matter of time?

5 minutes ago, HoosierDribbler said:

Not watching, what question caused him to answer "pleasantries"?

"What were you talking about with the refs at the end of the half?"

Pause.  "Pleasantries"

I like Archie's press game lately.

"Pleasantries."

Race gets blocked every ntime he goes up for a shot now.

16 hours ago, ap2345 said:

Yes but there are still summer classes that have to taken and those aren’t necessarily a sure thing for Lander. Good chance he passes them but you never know. I get what you were saying though.

 

 

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I think Landers is an intelligent student.  I have never met him personally, but I am fairly certain I have read from reputable sources on this board who are closer to the situation that Landers is intelligent.  I don't think he fails classes. 

39 minutes ago, coachv jr said:

brunk and davis are not going to, and have not "out-toughed" most of the bigs in the league. even if they are tough, as you say, they aren't good enough. if tjd doesn't come back with a right hand he will have inconsistent games. race needs an outside shot or his career will not flourish. he is getting the smith treatment with teams daring him to shoot. you just can't have a guy facilitating ball movement from the top of the key who is not a threat to shoot. race is not going to be successful on offense trying to only score inside in the big ten. too small. miller should have made sure smith had a pull-up, squared-up jumper from mid range. with a 46" vertical, who could defend that. big wasted season on offense. right now he looks like a guy who thinks he gets a point for hitting the rim - no real plan to score.

I think we are not hearing each other very well because some of the quotes quoted say very different things from  what is being , for lack of a better word, now seemingly argued against.  I don't intend to get into an argument over a topic that honestly means almost nothing to me.  I suppose I could research statistics and patch together some game film that backs up my points, but nah.  Who cares if I think some of our guys might be tougher or stronger than you give them credit for?

2 minutes ago, coachv jr said:

brunk and davis are not going to "out-tough" most of the bigs in the league. even if they are tough, as you say, they aren't good enough. if tjd doesn't come back with a right hand he will have inconsistent games. race needs an outside shot or his career will not flourish. he is getting the smith treatment with teams daring him to shoot. you just can't have a guy facilitating ball movement from the top of the key who is not a threat to shoot. race is not going to be successful on offense trying to only score inside in the big ten. too small. miller should have made sure smith had a pull-up, squared-up jumper from mid range. with a 46" vertical, who could defend that. big wasted season on offense. right now he looks like a guy who thinks he gets a point for hitting the rim - no real plan to score.

I am going strictly off of memory without going back to substantiate my remark, but off the top of my head I only remember our bigs getting dominated mostly across the board by one team, and I don't remember off the top of my head which team that was.  IU seemed to hang with most teams up front by my memory, even if some of those games up front were mud fights, and maybe we are talking about two different topics here.  You are not the only person to remark about our front court's lack of toughness.

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Such an excellent take.

Verdell Jones, for instance, was/is a really good guy that had many many good and not as good moments as a dedicated, motivated Hoosier b-ball player.

 

Thank you.  I agree.  Verdell was a combo guard I believe thrust into the starting point guard role who may or may not have had a really nice road map at his disposal for success in becoming a true point guard.  He came to play for IU when the program was operating under unusual circumstances, and contributed to building the program into a contender.  I liked his demeanor as well.

1 hour ago, tomallenfan said:

For some reason, a lot of people hated Verdell a lot. I never understood it.

I think some people cannot even visualize rules of social engagement that do not include a hero and a scapegoat.  Without those two characters created, they are lost, and they will try to create them for the rest of us often employing the underlying fundamental principal that if you say something enough times, then it becomes true.

Look around you.  Even though it is a dying social model, many, many, many people know no other rules of social engagement, and could never conceive living in a world where a hero and a scapegoat do not exist.  The possibility that other, more successful social models even exist has never entered their imagination.  Many people live according to social rules of engagement that do not use the hero/scapegoat model, but I am nearly certain you have noticed that lots and lots of people need the comfort a hero and a scapegoat provide in order to navigate their journeys through their respective worlds, primarily consisting of groups filled with like-minded people.  It's easier in the short term that way.  

14 minutes ago, colonel06 said:

At times yes until we come up against average to above average strength. That toughness will also give them a mental edge.


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I would really like to see a tough Justin Smith. A guy who can finish.  That Justin Smith does not exist.  Now he is going into his senior season.  Maybe we can get one tough year out of him next year.  I am not counting on it.  He just does not seem all the way invested. He is not a guy who is going to will this team to a championship doing everything he needs to do to be the best he can be.  And Jackson-Davis most likely can be expected to toughen up between freshman and sophomore seasons.   Brunk plays tough, and De'ron, despite his overwhelming injuries can out-tough anybody in the league it seems, but yeah, he can only do that for so long in a game before he is required to sit before his body falls apart into puzzle pieces on the floor.  Race plays with toughness, but he is such a newbie to planned minutes on the floor, he is just beginning to learn the league.

1 minute ago, colonel06 said:

I personally feel the basketball team should workout in the weight room with the football players. As long as they are stretching along with it. We are way too soft under the basket especially.


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Lol I thought under the basket was our strength on this year's model.

7 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

How does race get slapped in the face, almost goes down to a knee and no body on the court nor the bench even asks let alone throws a fit to have them review the play?

Should have been a flagrant with free throws and the ball. Different game

As they take the lead with 4+ minutes to go and we only have 2 fouls, how do we not get super aggressive on D to get steals or burn fouls?

How do we get all their bigs on foul trouble with 7 minutes to go and they become the aggressors?


I’ve had it with this crap. Dumb basketball all around


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Who do you call the flagrant on, Durham?  It looked to me on the reply I only saw once, so take it for what it's worth, like Durham poked Race in the eye.  Wisconsin is famous for poking opponents in the eye, so I thought it was deliberate at first.  Idk, look at it if you can and come back here and tell us what you saw.  I can't do that with the laptop I am using right now.