Troy Williams Decision

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,807]

Kay Felder is 5-9. I thought that was known lol. Tyler Ulis weighed in at 149 lbs. That is a huge hit on him though he was 5-10 with shoes with a 6-2 wingspan.

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Yes, Felder was known but it just looks even more impressive on a list of NBA prospects.

I'm 5'10" and like to use height as my basketball excuse. I was a tremendous shooter but felt very short even in HS ball. To be that accomplished at 5'9" is a cool thing!

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,807]

Kay Felder is 5-9. I thought that was known lol. Tyler Ulis weighed in at 149 lbs. That is a huge hit on him though he was 5-10 with shoes with a 6-2 wingspan.

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Yes, Felder was known but it just looks even more impressive on a list of NBA prospects.

I'm 5'10" and like to use height as my basketball excuse. I was a tremendous shooter but felt very short even in HS ball. To be that accomplished at 5'9" is a cool thing!

[Tom White 1,435]

In no way was my comment specific to Troy, I never even mentioned him. Clearly it's a difficult situation for all involved, though a lot times these settings favor guards who typically have the ball in their hands and control things. 

OK. Sorry I misread your intent.

[X-Hoosier 529]

Yes, Felder was known but it just looks even more impressive on a list of NBA prospects.

I'm 5'10" and like to use height as my basketball excuse. I was a tremendous shooter but felt very short even in HS ball. To be that accomplished at 5'9" is a cool thing!

Yea same here. He's a great athlete too. I could dunk coming out of HS but I didn't make it look as easy as he can.

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[Trish 11,414]

1 hour ago, X-Hoosier said:

Kay Felder is 5-9. I thought that was known lol. Tyler Ulis weighed in at 149 lbs. That is a huge hit on him though he was 5-10 with shoes with a 6-2 wingspan.

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149 pounds? Russell Westbrook would knock him down by blowing air in his way. 

 

Wow. 

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yeah. IU had him at 6'7''. They always use w/ shoes measurements. No one is surprised by this.

Side note. Kay Felder is 5'9''. Wow.

The thing with in shoe measurements is that they add a varying difference to the height of a player. Some guys shoes add like 1.75 inches to their height, Troys added just 1 inch. 

[mdn82 25,461]

Damn.  40 points?

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,082]

Friday box score.

[Hoosiers219 178]

What the box score doesn't tell us is did Troy exhibit an awareness of what his role was to be and where he was to be on the offensive end and what kind of defensive effort he demonstrated.  We know he shot poorly but only had 1 TO so based on multiple tweets that his performance was sub-par, I have to assume that he didn't sparkle with overall basketball IQ.

One day of poor shooting isn't that big of a deal.  The NBA has 3-years worth of shooting stats for Troy from probably every square foot on the court.  Poor shooting isn't that big of a deal unless his missed shots were from double teams or lower the head, drive and throw the ball in the general direction and hope for the best.  In most cases, the latter is nothing more than a TO.  Did he box out or did he get boxed out when rebounding?  What kind of defense did he play; did he get beaten routinely off the drive?  Did he always know where his man was?   This is the IQ part of it.

 

Like many I have a love/frustration thing going on with Troy's game. He is one dynamic player, but if we're waiting for him to exhibit a basketball IQ it may be a very long wait.

[MadAboutIndiana 402]

The combine is a very useful tool for scouts/GM's,etc. This is the one time they are able to freely watch prospects without flying to another country or fly in potential on the board prospects. Depending who is on their board of course.

If players have bad performances , it may not be the end of the world for them, but it certainly has an impact to a certain degree. During this time, front offices get to interview prospects (most important part tbh) , measurements, workouts, and five on five play.

With Troy's measurements being "normal" and his performance today being less than average, he could be playing himself to a summer league team (on his way to Europe)

Bottom line. Performances do matter to some extent.

He played himself to the D League during the past three seasons, not at the combine. The combine won't alter any team's opinion of a player. It's not like these teams aren't scouting these guys 365 days a year and they're just now meeting them at the combine.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,082]

From Chad Ford:  The All-Go-Back-To-School Team: Melo Trimble, Nigel Hayes, Caleb Swanigan, Marcus Lee, Dedric Lawson, Troy Williams, Justin Jackson.

[Jketch 385]

Albers said Troy going to the nba for sure was a done deal from multiple "sources" but now claims that he has a week to decide... This guy

[Brass Cannon 24,068]

37 minutes ago, Jketch said:

Albers said Troy going to the nba for sure was a done deal from multiple "sources" but now claims that he has a week to decide... This guy

After this combine I think a done deal changing isn't absurd at all to be fair. 

[Trish 11,414]

Albers lol

Troy has workouts with Pacers Lakers and Clippers

No offense, but I don't know why my Lakers would draft him.

[HoosierRob 1,042]

I think he's goes undrafted if he stays in.

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,807]

He seems committed to leaving. Quotes about being okay with DLeague, etc...

[HoosierRob 1,042]

Yeah.. I would be shocked if he returned.

[Trish 11,414]

He seems committed to leaving. Quotes about being okay with DLeague, etc...

13K a year with little to no chance to get a call up or free college with a chance to win a championship.

The choice is too obvious

[bhaggard89 869]

http://dleaguedigest.com/2015/07/29/assessing-the-nba-d-league-salary-structure/

Here is a better explanation of the D League pay.

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

http://dleaguedigest.com/2015/07/29/assessing-the-nba-d-league-salary-structure/

Here is a better explanation of the D League pay.

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If you get housing plus a per diem on top of your $13 - 25k contract, that's really not terrible considering housing is usually around 1/3 of an individual's after-tax expenses. Plus, per diems are not taxed, and more than cover a daily food expenditure. If they get to pocket per diem, like some consultants, that's another few thousand a year.