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7 hours ago, Leo said:

National semis are set! Two B1G teams make it: Wisconsin (beat Minny) and Nebraska. They’ll join Pitt (beat Purdue) and Louisville in the final four and are lined up on opposite sides of the bracket. Semifinals Thursday and the championship game Saturday, all taking place in Columbus OH.

Nebraska has really turned it on late in the season. They were looking at little rough about a month ago.

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1 hour ago, saddays said:

Devastated to read about these Hoosier women and the lack of support the Athletic Department is giving them.  Have the athletic department personnel not read about the three recent suicides of D1 women athletes (Stanford, Wisconsin and JMU)?  All very high profile athletes excelling at their sport AND in the classroom.  The pressures are real and intense, then add a coach who is mentally abusive is unacceptable.  This is a tragedy waiting to happen at IU!

 

Know also that this is not the only women's sport at IU with an abusive coach.  Athletic Department is also ignoring this issue as well.  

 

Do better IU, protect our female Hoosiers!  Take a page from the University of Florida!  They ate a million dollars in salary to fire the women's soccer coach for many of the reasons listed when describing the IU Volleyball coach.  They stood up and protected their women athletes!  https://www.news4jax.com/sports/2022/04/27/florida-fires-womens-soccer-coach-tony-amato-after-1-season/

You can't lob allegations of abuse unless you know for certain and then you need to be more specific on how you know this and what you have seen.

Clearly it is not as bad with other sports or it would of been uncovered. As volleyball shows, when something is rotten in the program it will come out eventually through investigative journalism or other means. Since nothing else has been uncovered in other sports I have to assume nothing that egregious is happening anywhere else.

If there were issues in other sports similar to volleyball the IDS would of uncovered it just like they did here.   

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2 minutes ago, saddays said:

Aaron, you are part of the problem.  how many even knew Volleyball was an issue until yesterday's article?  It takes guts to come forward,  Like many women in domestic abuse cases, they are fearful to come forward even when the offending party is no longer in control of them.  Don't underestimate the damage these coaches are doing to these women just because you haven't "heard" about it or seen it in writing.  

Ok I'll play along.

Lets look at our women's ports at IU and see what makes sense:

1. Women's Basketball-Moren is tough but many players can't say enough nice things about her. She is not everyone's cup of tea, but the players who play regularly can't say enough good things about her and how they want to play for IU forever. Because a few players at the end of the bench are offended and transferred, you are not discipling the best coach in program history and not blowing up your best program overall outside men's soccer because some players think she is the greatest and others don't. If 'abuse' in this program were terrible the team would not win at such a high level. Truly abusive coaches like Aird can't get players to respond and the program falters on the field.

2. Cross Country and Track And Field- Ron Helmer has coached for years and is retiring. He coaches both genders and his retirement is because he is an old man with serious health issues. If he were abusing players he would not of been here as long as he has been.

3. Field Hockey-Know nothing about Kayla Bashore but she has not been here that long. Whether this program has abuse I could not begin to say.  

4. Golf-Clint Wallman 'retired' suddenly after years earlier this season. Was it for abuse? I don't know, but no one ever uncovered anything and he had been there two decades. If allegations suddenly arose then this would definitely make sense given the mysterious circumstances behind his departure. 

5. Rowing-Steve Peterson has turned around a doormat into a solid program. I know nothing about him, but again if abuse were terrible there is no way he would be producing a winner in the water after so many others could not.

6.  Women's Soccer-This is probably the number one candidate outside women's golf where abuse could be taking place. Erwin Van Bennekom has not won all that big and have never heard the players say anything good about him. Also, as someone who is European, cultural differences may make him do uncomfortable things to the players.

7. Softball-Players can't sat enough nice things about Shonda Stanton and she has won not at an elite level, but certainly at a better clip than anyone in a long time. 

8. Swimming and Diving-Ray Looze, Like Helmer has been here forever and coaches both genders. If any problems existed we would of known by now. Also, you have an elite swimming program again for the first time since the Spitz era after so many years trying to get back there. Given players respond to his coaching and win at a high level abuse would not be suspected.

9. Tennis-Ramiro Azcui I know nothing about similar to Bashore. Have absolutely no idea if abuse occurring in this program.

10.  Water Polo- See Azcui and Bashore. I know nothing about Taylor Dodson so couldn't say if anything bad is happening.  

 

After looking at this logically Women's Soccer and Women's Golf would be prime suspects for issues, while Field Hockey, Tennis, and Water Polo are possible only because we know nothing about them. The other programs everything would logically be OK even if not every player likes them. 

As I said I am not condoning Aird and clearly he has crossed a line, but people need to understand that young kids these days are incredibly mentally fragile and as someone with parents who are psychologists this needs to be taken into account as well. The Florida coach you mentioned and Aird have crossed the line but other coaches struggle with the fact that young people today are hard to criticize and coach now without their mental health being affected and this needs to be taken into account as well.    

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42 minutes ago, Aaron said:

Ok I'll play along.

Lets look at our women's ports at IU and see what makes sense:

1. Women's Basketball-Moren is tough but many players can't say enough nice things about her. She is not everyone's cup of tea, but the players who play regularly can't say enough good things about her and how they want to play for IU forever. Because a few players at the end of the bench are offended and transferred, you are not discipling the best coach in program history and not blowing up your best program overall outside men's soccer because some players think she is the greatest and others don't. If 'abuse' in this program were terrible the team would not win at such a high level. Truly abusive coaches like Aird can't get players to respond and the program falters on the field.

2. Cross Country and Track And Field- Ron Helmer has coached for years and is retiring. He coaches both genders and his retirement is because he is an old man with serious health issues. If he were abusing players he would not of been here as long as he has been.

3. Field Hockey-Know nothing about Kayla Bashore but she has not been here that long. Whether this program has abuse I could not begin to say.  

4. Golf-Clint Wallman 'retired' suddenly after years earlier this season. Was it for abuse? I don't know, but no one ever uncovered anything and he had been there two decades. If allegations suddenly arose then this would definitely make sense given the mysterious circumstances behind his departure. 

5. Rowing-Steve Peterson has turned around a doormat into a solid program. I know nothing about him, but again if abuse were terrible there is no way he would be producing a winner in the water after so many others could not.

6.  Women's Soccer-This is probably the number one candidate outside women's golf where abuse could be taking place. Erwin Van Bennekom has not won all that big and have never heard the players say anything good about him. Also, as someone who is European, cultural differences may make him do uncomfortable things to the players.

7. Softball-Players can't sat enough nice things about Shonda Stanton and she has won not at an elite level, but certainly at a better clip than anyone in a long time. 

8. Swimming and Diving-Ray Looze, Like Helmer has been here forever and coaches both genders. If any problems existed we would of known by now. Also, you have an elite swimming program again for the first time since the Spitz era after so many years trying to get back there. Given players respond to his coaching and win at a high level abuse would not be suspected.

9. Tennis-Ramiro Azcui I know nothing about similar to Bashore. Have absolutely no idea if abuse occurring in this program.

10.  Water Polo- See Azcui and Bashore. I know nothing about Taylor Dodson so couldn't say if anything bad is happening.  

 

After looking at this logically Women's Soccer and Women's Golf would be prime suspects for issues, while Field Hockey, Tennis, and Water Polo are possible only because we know nothing about them. The other programs everything would logically be OK even if not every player likes them. 

As I said I am not condoning Aird and clearly he has crossed a line, but people need to understand that young kids these days are incredibly mentally fragile and as someone with parents who are psychologists this needs to be taken into account as well. The Florida coach you mentioned and Aird have crossed the line but other coaches struggle with the fact that young people today are hard to criticize and coach now without their mental health being affected and this needs to be taken into account as well.    

Not the time to try to defend your agenda of "tough love". Just stop

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10 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Not the time to try to defend your agenda of "tough love". Just stop

A discussion about how kids are mentally fragile these days is absolutely needed from all directions. Kids mental health is suffering more than ever. Partly because there are so many people like Aird who drive kids to insanity and partly because kids are entitled more than ever in this generation.

If you can't acknowledge that I am sorry. Mental  health is a serious issue in society for multiple reasons and is something society is not dealing with as well as it should. 

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BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - The 48th season of Indiana Volleyball will commence on Friday evening as the Hoosiers welcome three teams to Wilkinson Hall for the Indiana Invitational.
 
A four-team tournament featuring the host-Hoosiers, Chicago State, Indiana State and Jacksonville State will see each team face each other across a six-game slate of volleyball on Friday, Aug. 26 and Saturday, Aug. 27.
 
The Hoosiers begin their campaign in the nightcap on Friday evening, at 7:00 PM, against in-state foe Indiana State. Chicago State and Jacksonville State will open play at 5:00 PM that evening.
 
"I thought we had a great spring, capped off with the foreign trip, so we had extra time to train," head coach Steve Aird said. "We're returning a much more mature group than a year ago. I just think volleyball IQ and physicality have improved. Excited to get the season going."
 
The Hoosiers:
 
IU enters the fifth season of the Steve Aird era with a bevy of returning talent along with a pair of talented freshmen from Europe.
 
The Hoosiers announced the signings of outside hitter Candela Alonso-Corcelles (Madrid, Spain) and right-side Melisa Ilter (Bursa, Turkey) to Bloomington in late-July. Each player has competed at high levels in Europe over the past years in their respective countries.


 
14 athletes from the 2021 roster return for IU including libero Paula Cerame, middle blockers Kaley Rammelsberg and Savannah Kjolhede, outside hitters Mady Saris and Morgan Geddes and setter Camryn Haworth.
 
Cerame posted 492 digs last season, the third-most in a single season in program history. She enters her fifth season of collegiate volleyball, the second with the Hoosiers.
 
Saris and Rammelsberg each posted 200+ kills last season for the Hoosiers while Kjolhede and Geddes recorded 130+ kills as well.
 
Additional veteran pieces include outside hitters Ashley Zulauf and Grae Gosnell, setter Emily Fitzner and defensive specialist Haley Armstrong.
 
Joining Aird on the sidelines are first-year coaches Spencer McLachlin (Associate Head Coach) and Rachel Morris (Assistant Coach). The pair enter their first year in Bloomington following stints at the high school, collegiate, club and international level.
 
The Opposition:
 
Indiana State (0-0)
• The Sycamores come into 2022 on the heels of an 18-13 campaign in 2021 which featured an appearance in the National Invitational Volleyball Championship.
 
• Indiana State welcomes new coach Ashlee Pritchard to Terre Haute after spending the last 10 seasons building Marian (Ind.) into a NAIA powerhouse.
 
Chicago State (0-0)
• The Cougars enter the season on the back of a 17-11 season last year which also featured a trip to the National Invitational Volleyball Championship.
 
• Chicago State's roster features just three Americans with athletes from Turkey, Peru, South Korea, Argentina and various other nations comprising the roster.
 
Jacksonville State (0-0)
• The Gamecocks had an outstanding season a year ago, finishing 25-7 (13-3) after falling short of the NCAA Tournament with a loss to Florida Gulf Coast in the finals of the A-SUN Conference Tournament.
 
• Jacksonville State returns fifth year outside hitter Lena Kindermann who recorded 393 kills in 2021.
 
Indiana Invitational:

Venue: Wilkinson Hall (Bloomington, Ind.)
Watch: BTN+
Live Stats:
Indiana vs. Indiana State: https://bit.ly/3PH3qo7
Indiana vs. Chicago State: https://bit.ly/3T6keYE
Indiana vs. Jacksonville State: https://bit.ly/3AglC2o
Schedule:
Friday, Aug. 26: Chicago State vs. Jacksonville State (5:00 PM)
Friday, Aug. 26: Indiana State vs. Indiana (7:00 PM)
Saturday, Aug. 27: Indiana vs. Chicago State (10:00 AM)
Saturday, Aug. 27: Indiana State vs. Jacksonville State (12:00 PM)
Saturday, Aug. 27: Chicago State vs. Indiana State (5:00 PM)
Saturday, Aug. 27: Indiana vs. Jacksonville State (7:00 PM)

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On 5/10/2022 at 2:28 PM, Aaron said:

A discussion about how kids are mentally fragile these days is absolutely needed from all directions. Kids mental health is suffering more than ever. Partly because there are so many people like Aird who drive kids to insanity and partly because kids are entitled more than ever in this generation.

If you can't acknowledge that I am sorry. Mental  health is a serious issue in society for multiple reasons and is something society is not dealing with as well as it should. 

This is a really good post. The bold though is not as prevalent as some portray it to be. Not that Aird didn't do this or anything in regards to him, but over time/across the board.... that isn't the norm. 

Unfortunately, as you've mentioned, kids are fragile these days and it's mostly because our expectations for behavior and academic performance have dropped dramatically. The standard is so absurdly low. 

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On 12/12/2021 at 8:41 AM, IUFAN1976 said:

My bosses niece is the starting lebero, not sure I spelled it right, for Nebraska.  

Just say the one with the different colored jersey!! haha 

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I watched the volleyball team smack Iowa tonight. I think that made them 9-6 on the year. 
 

I noticed Aird didn’t get off the bench at all except during breaks and there was an assistant up doing the usual coaching. Is that part of his deal for whatever came out recently?

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