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12 minutes ago, hoosierdogg said:

Division 2 national championship game just finished with Nova Southeastern winning 111-101.  Game was played in Evansville.  Nova Southeastern was undefeated at 36-0 for the season.

Just arrived at a restaurant to meet friends for dinner and caught the tail end of a bunch of flagrant fouls and technicals in the 2nd half.  What happened?

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Didn't see the game either until very end.  West Liberty called for 4 flagarant fouls, including a flagarant 2, with 3 of those in the second half, as well as the two technical fouls late in the second half.  It must have been very chippy, didn't know it was on, but wished I had known. Sounds like pure entertainment, with the highest scoring national championship game at any level.

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Very chippy and fast paced game. Lots 3pt shooting of course. Intentional elbow on a free throw resulted in flagrant 2 and ejection. Was an easy call for the official. After this the officials started calling the game a lot closer. Free throw shooter said something to opposing player and was called for a technical, seemed like a benign situation but obviously couldn't see what he said but official didn't hesitate. Pretty exciting game but looked like aau.

 

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33 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

 

 


Interesting thread

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Nice to see his cause/solution is the same as mine—talent.  
 

Their problem is that their two (really 3 coaches if you see Williams as an extension of Dean) iconic, all-time programs just retired forever coaches. Those guys single handedly recruited more talent to that conference than the rest of the ACC and B1G combined.  I’ve always kind of thought UNC recruited itself. We’ll see where they go from here.   
 

I feel confident saying their next couple decades won’t be as bad as Indiana’s. We are an all-time cluster-@&$# when it comes to this topic. I’d wager on 1 of those 2 schools figuring it out and raising the ACC back up. 

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48 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Nice to see his cause/solution is the same as mine—talent.  
 

Their problem is that their two (really 3 coaches if you see Williams as an extension of Dean) iconic, all-time programs just retired forever coaches. Those guys single handedly recruited more talent to that conference than the rest of the ACC and B1G combined.  I’ve always kind of thought UNC recruited itself. We’ll see where they go from here.   
 

I feel confident saying their next couple decades won’t be as bad as Indiana’s. We are an all-time cluster-@&$# when it comes to this topic. I’d wager on 1 of those 2 schools figuring it out and raising the ACC back up. 

From the meetings, the commissioner said he felt that the committee focused too much on NET and not enough on eye test.  Also said he felt they focused too much on non-conference and not enough on conference play.

There are a couple of issues with what he says:

1.  If you are trying to measure the conference as a whole against other conferences, you have to go with non-conference play.  Seems pretty difficult to raise or conference compared to others based on them playing against themself.

2.  It's not so much that the committee focuses on November v February/March -- it's that a team raising its profile in conference play likely causes another team in your conference to lower theirs.  You aren't going to typically see a conference be a three bid league based on what teams have accomplished prior to conference become a six bid league afterwards.  The floor and ceiling is pretty much set before league play begins.

One thing I do agree with is his thoughts that 20 conference games might be too much.  I'd prefer 18.  With conference tournaments right now teams are getting typically 21-23 games against conference competition.

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Top 25 WAR ratings up to the final four.  Teams left are ranked 5 (San Diego St), 8 (U Conn), 13 (Florida Atlantic), and 14 (Miami).  

Pre-tournament rank is in parentheses.

  1. (2) Alabama 30-7, WAR 10.6
  2. (1) Kansas 27-8, WAR 10.34
  3. (5) Texas 29-9, WAR 9.94
  4. (4) UCLA 31-6, WAR 9.92
  5. (10) San Diego St, WAR 9.67
  6. (8) Gonzaga, WAR 9.48
  7. (3) Purdue 29-6, WAR 8.95
  8. (12) U Connecticutt 29-8, WAR 8.48
  9. (7) Houston 33-4, WAR 8.43
  10. (6) Marquette 29-7, WAR 8.39
  11. (13) Kansas St 26-9, WAR 7.12
  12. (9) Arizona 27-7, WAR 6.77
  13. (21) Florida Atlantic 33-3, WAR 6.69
  14. (24) Miami 29-9, WAR 6.67
  15. (14) Xavier 27-10, WAR 6.24
  16. (11) Baylor 23-11, WAR 6.05
  17. (16) Duke 27-9, WAR 5.10
  18. (15) Memphis 26-9, WAR 4.92
  19. (19) St. Mary's 25-9, WAR 4.90
  20. (18) Missouri 25-10, WAR 4.77
  21. (25) Tennessee 25-11, WAR 4.55
  22. (17) Utah State 25-9, WAR 4.32
  23. (23) Indiana 23-12, WAR 4.18
  24. (UR) Michigan State 21-13, WAR 4.15
  25. (22) Texas A&M 25-10, WAR 4.05

Close:  Creighton 24-13, WAR 3.94, Virginia 25-8, WAR 3.93, TCU 22-13, WAR 3.60, Kentucky 22-12, WAR 3.09, Boise State 23-10, WAR 2.91.

Final Big Ten WAR (Wisconsin still playing)

  • 1.  Purdue, 29-5, WAR 8.95
  • 2.  Indiana 23-12, WAR 4.18
  • 3.  Michigan State 21-13, WAR 4.15
  • 4.  Penn State 23-14, WAR 2.81
  • 5.  Northwestern 21-13, WAR 2.64
  • 6.  Maryland 22-13, WAR 1.93
  • 7.  Wisconsin 20-14, WAR 1.49
  • 8.  Illinois 20-13, WAR 1.07
  • 9.  Iowa 19-14, WAR 0.24
  • 10. Nebraska 16-16, WAR -1.09
  • 11. Rutgers 19-15, WAR -1.12
  • 12. Michigan 18-16, WAR -1.28
  • 13. Ohio State 16-19, WAR -2.14
  • 14. Minnesota 9-22, WAR -8.50

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