South Carolina at Indiana Today 3 PM Peacock

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1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Do you find it hard to walk with your crystal balls?

I mean, SCar lost to North Florida… not such a stretch to imagine them missing the tourney. Don’t get me wrong, solid win. Gonna have to see them beat a top team in Atlantis to really feel excited about this team. 

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On 11/16/2024 at 8:02 PM, DChoosier said:

We clearly don’t play through the post to the extent we have the past few years (and certainly not “everything” through the post). 

I know we are playing some Princeton offense. Yes, that’s a change but we are still asking our bigs to make decisions with the ball and I would rather play more motion and let our guards make decisions.  But I do agree, our offense is different but I still don’t see a lot movement, I still see standing around as prior years.

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2 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I know we are playing some Princeton offense. Yes, that’s a change but we are still asking our bigs to make decisions with the ball and I would rather play more motion and let our guards make decisions.  But I do agree, our offense is different but I still don’t see a lot movement, I still see standing around as prior years.

Today, after my post you are referencing, I listened to the two coaches that hosted the post-game Assembly Cal podcast referenced by Stuhoo.  Up to the listeners of the podcast to agree or disagree with them but a few things they stated.

- For the most part we didn’t run much Princeton offense this game.

- One of them mentioned an analytical service (I didn’t catch the name) that provided numbers showing we went through the post 1/2 as often as a typical game the last few years  even though we started the game by going to the post in the first two possessions.

- At the end of the first half we were up 11 but our bigs, MR and Ballo, only had one bucket apiece and both of those buckets were off offensive rebounds (ie. we would have been getting smoked if we had repeatedly gone through the post without any offensive, non-rebound, buckets from our two bigs)

- They thought we cut much more than previous years but that many of our first half cuts were lazy.

-Felt that Rice controlled the pace of the game. Both of them are really high on him.

-Thought our defensive ball pressure was outstanding/disruptive.

-They were also very high on Tucker (compared him to athletes you watch from other conferences on ESPN) and thought Goode had a good game in spite of going 0-3 from the three.

-Repeatedly mentioned how our guards are different than past years. One instance mentioned was at the end of the first half when SC packed the lane assuming we would force the ball to the post for our last shot, as we have in past years, but Rice read the defense and instead of forcing it inside, which we have all seen a million times, he rose up and nailed a three.

-They liked that a number of our big man touches were when they were on the move as opposed to receiving the ball with their backs to the basket as in the past.

- mentioned we were favored by 7.5 but analytics (I don’t know where they pulled those from) only had us favored by 6.

-mentioned how much better MM is going to the rim. I had mentioned during the game that he doesn’t look nearly as stiff/tentative as he did last year.

- they are fans of the 8 man rotation

- we gave up too many offensive boards.

-mentioned the overall TO number was good but that 3 of them were in the first half but we had a poor 8 TO’s in the second.

They had a lot of observations I found interesting and will listen to them after the Bahama games. 

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7 hours ago, DChoosier said:

-mentioned how much better MM is going to the rim. I had mentioned during the game that he doesn’t look nearly as stiff/tentative as he did last year.

- they are fans of the 8 man rotation

They had a lot of observations I found interesting and will listen to them after the Bahama games. 

I had seen him play a handful of times in HS/AAU since he was a local 5 star in my area. Was so confused last year because he looked like a completely different player - there was none of the stiffness and not nearly as slow/indecisive… looked as though he was literally walking on egg shells most of the time. Obviously he’s now competing against other D1 athletes so he’s not as physically dominating/athletically ahead, but this is a much closer version of the player I had seen in HS. And he still has plenty of room for growth. I’m very optimistic about what he can do for us this year. His play could really elevate the team… especially now that he’s showing more ability as a three level scorer. He locks in more on defense when he’s scoring, so I like that we have been going to him early in these games. 

I hope we see the 8 man rotation in Bahamas too. Big fan.

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8 hours ago, DChoosier said:

Today, after my post you are referencing, I listened to the two coaches that hosted the post-game Assembly Cal podcast referenced by Stuhoo.  Up to the listeners of the podcast to agree or disagree with them but a few things they stated.

- For the most part we didn’t run much Princeton offense this game.

- One of them mentioned an analytical service (I didn’t catch the name) that provided numbers showing we went through the post 1/2 as often as a typical game the last few years  even though we started the game by going to the post in the first two possessions.

- At the end of the first half we were up 11 but our bigs, MR and Ballo, only had one bucket apiece and both of those buckets were off offensive rebounds (ie. we would have been getting smoked if we had repeatedly gone through the post without any offensive, non-rebound, buckets from our two bigs)

- They thought we cut much more than previous years but that many of our first half cuts were lazy.

-Felt that Rice controlled the pace of the game. Both of them are really high on him.

-Thought our defensive ball pressure was outstanding/disruptive.

-They were also very high on Tucker (compared him to athletes you watch from other conferences on ESPN) and thought Goode had a good game in spite of going 0-3 from the three.

-Repeatedly mentioned how our guards are different than past years. One instance mentioned was at the end of the first half when SC packed the lane assuming we would force the ball to the post for our last shot, as we have in past years, but Rice read the defense and instead of forcing it inside, which we have all seen a million times, he rose up and nailed a three.

-They liked that a number of our big man touches were when they were on the move as opposed to receiving the ball with their backs to the basket as in the past.

- mentioned we were favored by 7.5 but analytics (I don’t know where they pulled those from) only had us favored by 6.

-mentioned how much better MM is going to the rim. I had mentioned during the game that he doesn’t look nearly as stiff/tentative as he did last year.

- they are fans of the 8 man rotation

- we gave up too many offensive boards.

-mentioned the overall TO number was good but that 3 of them were in the first half but we had a poor 8 TO’s in the second.

They had a lot of observations I found interesting and will listen to them after the Bahama games. 

Nice recap!  I do remember early in the game we went to the post and I do remember some cuts through the lane that didn’t seem to have much purpose.  I know our 3 point shooting seems better but the volume isn’t quite there but still more than last year.  I do like our defensive pressure from our guards and it does seem like we get much more movement when Galloway is in. The 8 man rotation is about right!  

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10 hours ago, DChoosier said:

Today, after my post you are referencing, I listened to the two coaches that hosted the post-game Assembly Cal podcast referenced by Stuhoo.  Up to the listeners of the podcast to agree or disagree with them but a few things they stated.

- For the most part we didn’t run much Princeton offense this game.

- One of them mentioned an analytical service (I didn’t catch the name) that provided numbers showing we went through the post 1/2 as often as a typical game the last few years  even though we started the game by going to the post in the first two possessions.

- At the end of the first half we were up 11 but our bigs, MR and Ballo, only had one bucket apiece and both of those buckets were off offensive rebounds (ie. we would have been getting smoked if we had repeatedly gone through the post without any offensive, non-rebound, buckets from our two bigs)

- They thought we cut much more than previous years but that many of our first half cuts were lazy.

-Felt that Rice controlled the pace of the game. Both of them are really high on him.

-Thought our defensive ball pressure was outstanding/disruptive.

-They were also very high on Tucker (compared him to athletes you watch from other conferences on ESPN) and thought Goode had a good game in spite of going 0-3 from the three.

-Repeatedly mentioned how our guards are different than past years. One instance mentioned was at the end of the first half when SC packed the lane assuming we would force the ball to the post for our last shot, as we have in past years, but Rice read the defense and instead of forcing it inside, which we have all seen a million times, he rose up and nailed a three.

-They liked that a number of our big man touches were when they were on the move as opposed to receiving the ball with their backs to the basket as in the past.

- mentioned we were favored by 7.5 but analytics (I don’t know where they pulled those from) only had us favored by 6.

-mentioned how much better MM is going to the rim. I had mentioned during the game that he doesn’t look nearly as stiff/tentative as he did last year.

- they are fans of the 8 man rotation

- we gave up too many offensive boards.

-mentioned the overall TO number was good but that 3 of them were in the first half but we had a poor 8 TO’s in the second.

They had a lot of observations I found interesting and will listen to them after the Bahama games. 

They are by far and away the best breakdown of all the games. They are so knowledgeable on the game of basketball. I love it! 

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6 hours ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

They are by far and away the best breakdown of all the games. They are so knowledgeable on the game of basketball. I love it! 

I also liked their breakdown. Jarod Morris wasn’t on this particular episode but Coach Tonsoni and another coach were.

Although they both liked the 8 man rotation I would like to go to 9 with Cupps getting 5-7minutes, when he is healthy and if appropriate based on the game situation, as I would like to see him remain “game ready” in case Rice gets banged up. 3 guards getting playing time seems a little light.

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There are differences in the offense. There are times I'd like to see more off ball movement but that's about it right now. We'll see how things go against tougher competition here soon. 

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21 hours ago, DChoosier said:

I also liked their breakdown. Jarod Morris wasn’t on this particular episode but Coach Tonsoni and another coach were.

Although they both liked the 8 man rotation I would like to go to 9 with Cupps getting 5-7minutes, when he is healthy and if appropriate based on the game situation, as I would like to see him remain “game ready” in case Rice gets banged up. 3 guards getting playing time seems a little light.

I agree and there will be games Hatton is gonna need to play too. Foul trouble, fatigue, match-ups, twisted ankle or whatever, Reneau & Ballo won't cover the post 100% of the time. If either Cupps or Hatton is playing a lot of minutes, probably not great, but need to have them ready when needed. 

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21 hours ago, DChoosier said:

I also liked their breakdown. Jarod Morris wasn’t on this particular episode but Coach Tonsoni and another coach were.

Although they both liked the 8 man rotation I would like to go to 9 with Cupps getting 5-7minutes, when he is healthy and if appropriate based on the game situation, as I would like to see him remain “game ready” in case Rice gets banged up. 3 guards getting playing time seems a little light.

100%

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On 11/17/2024 at 11:20 AM, yogisballin said:

I disagree about Hattie. Initially, I thought he would get more minutes after the UT scrimmage. However, since then I have changed my mind. When he’s in, our defense suffers mainly due to positioning and lack of rim protection while he’s in. And offense doesn’t seem nearly as efficient when he’s in. 
 

I mean absolute no disrespect towards the kid, I’m sure he’s a great kid. But solid practice player . The only thing I believe he does well at is. Catching ball elbow extended, and making a move to go score at the basket with pivot moves, positioning, ball fakes, etc.

Care to update your assessment of Hatton? He provided solid minutes for Ballo in Atlantis.