2023 SF/PF Mackenzie Mgbako to INDI-F’N-ANA

[RaceToTheTop 23,610]

FWIW, here is what I have MM projected's stats being using comps from the 2022 recruits.  Compared him to the five most similar (not exactly similar obviously) in terms of size, position and rating.  Players I compared him to:  

• Whitehead, Duke
• Jackson, South Carolina
• Mitchell, Texas
• Walker, Houston
• Mitchell, Duke

The average totals for the five were 25 minutes/game, 8.2 shots, 44.3% shooting, 2.6 three point shots per game, 36% from three, 2.2 ft, 68.1% ft, 4.7 rebounds, 0.6 blocks, 0.8 steals, 1.4 turnovers, 9.7 points.  Using Torvik's projection of 30.8 minutes per game, that would have him averaging:

10 shots per game (44.3% fg), 3.2 three point shots per game (36%), 2.7 ft (68% from the line), 5.8 rebounds, 1.3 assists, 1 steal, 1.1 blocks, 1.8 turnovers, 11.9 points.

As a team, I have IU three points better with MM than without.

[normandale97 203]

7 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Here’s latest from Trilly. Could be pertinent, especially with what @Chris007 said 

 

So, I’ve said this before and people did not want to believe it. The main thing that put IU over the top with Ware was the NIL. Ware was working with the same people as JHS…and JHS was able to confirm that IU delivered what was promised in terms of $. There are plenty of kids getting promised a certain amount and they are not receiving it. Our NIL game is on point for basketball. 

[RaceToTheTop 23,610]

1 minute ago, normandale97 said:

So, I’ve said this before and people did not want to believe it. The main thing that put IU over the top with Ware was the NIL. Ware was working with the same people as JHS…and JHS was able to confirm that IU delivered what was promised in terms of $. There are plenty of kids getting promised a certain amount and they are not receiving it. Our NIL game is on point for basketball. 

Out NIL is on point.  Obviously so is Kansas'.

[normandale97 203]

7 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

.....and we should feel sorry for you ONLY getting less than 6 figures? Where is the pride in just playing for your college team and coach? That ship has sailed for a lot of these players. It's a shame that it has become money war.

 

 

Pride and loyalty only go so far. I’ve left jobs for more money…as many on this board have. These players are making millions for the university. Do I love NIL and the transfer portal? No I don’t…but the players deserve to get paid. 

[normandale97 203]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Out NIL is on point.  Obviously so is Kansas'.

Agreed

[Artie86 1,644]

3 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

So, I’ve said this before and people did not want to believe it. The main thing that put IU over the top with Ware was the NIL. Ware was working with the same people as JHS…and JHS was able to confirm that IU delivered what was promised in terms of $. There are plenty of kids getting promised a certain amount and they are not receiving it. Our NIL game is on point for basketball. 

[RaceToTheTop 23,610]

10 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

.....and we should feel sorry for you ONLY getting less than 6 figures? Where is the pride in just playing for your college team and coach? That ship has sailed for a lot of these players. It's a shame that it has become money war.

 

 

Adapt and adopt or fall behind.  And even prior to NIL I would have told my kid to go where he could get minutes, not for 'pride for playing for your college team'.

[Uspshoosier 44,225]

Regardless of how this shakes out IU fans should feel good in the direction this staff is going when it comes to recruiting.   Before this staff not sure how many in the ring battles there was for out of the state program changing kids.  I’ve followed Slater for a long time and he barely mentioned IU or IU wasn’t in many battle that he was a part of.   With this staff he has been in town for a game where he thanked the staff for th hospitality.  Small things but having a staff wanting to build the right relationships when it comes to big time recruits is a positive.   Shows how far out IU actually has been but you have to start somewhere and I feel like IU is making up ground everyday.   If the staff keeps building relationships and keep finding themselves in these types of battles they are going to be just fine.    They’ve already started winning some of these and other programs are noticing and paying attention.   

[DoctorP 813]

3 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Been saying this for weeks for anyone willing to listen but don’t have the “street cred” for that 

Is this a shtick? Feels like every other post of yours is you bitterly trying to prove you’ve been right about something. 
 

are you Peegs?

[Uspshoosier 44,225]

1 minute ago, Ngw7183 said:

Been saying this for weeks for anyone willing to listen but don’t have the “street cred” for that 

these numbers fans keep believing are not real. Not even close to it. 

It’s a free message board don’t need “street cred”  just post and enjoy the conversation.   If people agree awesome and if they don’t who cares it’s a free message board 

[TheWatShot 13,335]

9 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

 

-Apparently Mgbake’s mom gave their hand away on an Instagram post which she quickly deleted but not before many seen it. 

 

 

Yeah, I'm gonna say 0% chance that actually happened. 

 

And no way they shared anything worthwhile with Hunter Dickinson but have continued to sit on it for this long. 

[Artie86 1,644]

Just now, TheWatShot said:

Yeah, I'm gonna say 0% chance that actually happened. 

 

And no way they shared anything worthwhile with Hunter Dickinson but have continued to sit on it for this long. 

...yeah, I have a hard time believing mom would make that big of a mistake. 

[go iu bb 4,789]

6 minutes ago, DoctorP said:

Is this a shtick? Feels like every other post of yours is you bitterly trying to prove you’ve been right about something. 
 

are you Peegs?

This board's Rodney Dangerfield. "I don't get no respect!"

[rcbowla 6,734]

Yeah, I'm gonna say 0% chance that actually happened. 
 
And no way they shared anything worthwhile with Hunter Dickinson but have continued to sit on it for this long. 

Right there with ya. Mom didn't do that and HD knows as much as the rest of us. They are not going to be this tight about things this long to let a 21 year old giant bag of ****** leak things. I'd say Slater either knows or will be 1st to know and that's really about it. He'll likely be told before the coaches.

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[go iu bb 4,789]

35 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Here’s latest from Trilly. Could be pertinent, especially with what @Chris007 said 

 

That has to hurt Michigan's recruiting going forward. If they can't even get their All-American player paid, how could they get others paid?

I also saw a headline that a Big East player was promised $100k and only received $4k.

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,747]

2 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

That has to hurt Michigan's recruiting going forward. If they can't even get their All-American player paid, how could they get others paid?

Caleb Love got paid, and apparently it was enough.  Hard to tell.  

[Hovadipo 52,951]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Caleb Love got paid, and apparently it was enough.  Hard to tell.  

Makes you wonder if they (NIL providers) were just tired of Dickinson's s--t. It's not like they were winning anything with him.

[jbeaman9 1,013]

Just now, Ngw7183 said:

Man… you guys really misread things. Haha

i don’t give any crap about respect at all. Just seems like I am trying to help the conversation with some facts, information, things I read, things I know personally and gets glossed over. I see some things repeated as almost message board lore and gets glossed over is all. Read it, don’t, whatever. Was just saying this is a known thing that these NIL stories are just that. 

What is your feeling on a recruit picking a school that they visited second to last vs their last visit after canceling their final scheduled visit? 

[Brass Cannon 24,064]

40 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

.....and we should feel sorry for you ONLY getting less than 6 figures? Where is the pride in just playing for your college team and coach? That ship has sailed for a lot of these players. It's a shame that it has become money war.

 

 

Do you do your job for well below market value?  Why should he?

[jbeaman9 1,013]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Do you do your job for well below market value?  Why should he?

I know it wasn't asked to me, but yes I do lol