Caleb Love - UNC Transfer to Arizona

[btownqb 8,235]

1 minute ago, Honkyman said:

Isn't UNC the school where basketball and football players were given credit for doing nothing? Is it any surprise that a UNC basketball player's transcript might be suspect and not all credits transferable?

Look I mentioned that in an above post, but UNC is absolutely right on par with us in terms of academics. Again, this is a Michigan issue/flaw, not Caleb Love. 

And to answer the bold, no it's not a surprise at all that Michigan is still being uppity about their admissions, their fans have had an issue about this for a while. Not a good look for them. 

[Stuhoo 75,560]

Here's where the **** up is; how in the world did Michigan Basketball take his commitment without first confirming with the university that it would be a seamless academic transfer process? Maybe I'm overstating it, but that seems to be a complete clown show by UM Basketball staff.

There's also this; I'm reading in multiple places that UM will not issue a UM degree to anyone who has more than half of their college credit hours from another institution. If that's the case, Love would have needed to give up at least one year of college credits from UNC to allow for the transfer. If he was close to graduation that would be a pretty tough pill to swallow.

Love went to a really good academic-oriented high school; it was not a sports factory high school and he graduated from there with honors. I would expect that he's a fine student.

[Honkyman 1,670]

Just now, btownqb said:

this is a Michigan issue/flaw, not Caleb Love. 

I wouldn't refer to insistence on meeting academic standards as a flaw of the university.

[Stuhoo 75,560]

3 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I wouldn't refer to insistence on meeting academic standards as a flaw of the university.

That's not Michigan's flaw...

The flaw by Michigan is that they did not clearly communicate nor settle on a firm answer regarding academic credits transfer with Caleb Love upon taking his commitment!

[btownqb 8,235]

3 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I wouldn't refer to insistence on meeting academic standards as a flaw of the university.

It is if you want top-notch basketball and football talent lol ... 100% a Michigan flaw. 

[Honkyman 1,670]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Here's where the **** up is; how in the world did Michigan Basketball take his commitment without first confirming with the university that it would be a seamless academic transfer process

I suspect the transcript looked passable on its face. Once they realized that some of his credits were from UNC bogus classes, they changed their minds.

[btownqb 8,235]

Just now, Honkyman said:

I suspect the transcript looked passable on its face. Once they realized that some of his credits were from UNC bogus classes, they changed their minds.

You can't honestly believe that.... 

[Honkyman 1,670]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

You can't honestly believe that..

I spoke to someone at Michigan who said the transcript did not stand up to scrutiny.

[btownqb 8,235]

2 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I spoke to someone at Michigan who said the transcript did not stand up to scrutiny.

I wish I could post emojis on this site. 

[Stuhoo 75,560]

3 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I spoke to someone at Michigan who said the transcript did not stand up to scrutiny.

Possible - no way of confirming whether you did so, but if so? That would be different.

My issue with Michigan is different, and is still ... why the hell didn't they settle the admissions issue, no matter what it could have been, prior to announcing the commitment?

I would hope, and I expect that by the time IU announced the additions of Walker, Sparks, and Ware, the IU admissions office had already vetted and confirmed to the basketball staff and the player that admissions was a completed and successful process.

If UM didn't do that it's a clown show; cost them many potential different players and made for a high-profile embarrassment.

[lillurk 3,668]

Michigan’s transfer policies relevant to this recruitment (and Terrence Shannon, etc.) are explained here: https://mgoblog.com/content/exit-he-arrived-caleb-love

Best to not besmirch the student here, I think. And no, not a bad look for IU to take credits UM doesn’t take.

[btownqb 8,235]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Possible - no way of confirming whether you did so, but if so? That would be different.

My issue with Michigan is different, and is still ... why the hell didn't they settle the admissions issue, no matter what it could have been, prior to announcing the commitment?

I would hope, and I expect that by the time IU announced the additions of Walker, Sparks, and Ware, the IU admissions office had already vetted and confirmed to the basketball staff and the player that admissions was a completed and successful process.

If UM didn't do that it's a clown show; cost them many potential different players and made for a high-profile embarrassment.

That's a very Michigan, arrogant thing to do. 

[Stuhoo 75,560]

3 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Michigan’s transfer policies relevant to this recruitment (and Terrence Shannon, etc.) are explained here: https://mgoblog.com/content/exit-he-arrived-caleb-love

Best to not besmirch the student here, I think. And no, not a bad look for IU to take credits UM doesn’t take.

BINGO.

@Honkyman?

[Stuhoo 75,560]

"Hotel Putingrad

May 17th, 2023 at 9:05 PM ^

It's simple math. You have to take a minimum of 60 credits at Michigan to be admitted as an undergraduate transfer. Howard had to have known Love had too many banked and/or didn't want to sacrifice any he had already earned towards a degree in order to be admitted. This is a head coach not doing or delegating proper oversight. The rules are the rules and have always been the rules. Don't blame the school for enforcing its own requirements. If you want to change the standard, that's an entirely different debate."

[Honkyman 1,670]

I don't care about Michigan; I care about IU and I care about IU's academic reputation as well as their athletic record. Coach Woodson is a man of principal. I have no doubt if he is still interested in Love--and he may not be after his initial interaction with him--that Woodson will do the right thing and not cut corners to allow him to play. But if he is not interested or backs away, he won't announce why.

[Honkyman 1,670]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

not a bad look for IU to take credits UM doesn’t take.

Only someone who is more concerned about IU's athletic performance than their academic reputation would say this.

[Banksyrules 4,225]

19 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I suspect the transcript looked passable on its face. Once they realized that some of his credits were from UNC bogus classes, they changed their minds.

I deal with UNC and Duke and I can assure you that's not the case. Every university is different. If Duke wanted him he would have been in.   

[btownqb 8,235]

2 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Only someone who is more concerned about IU's athletic performance than their academic reputation would say this.

Only someone confused by this entire conversation would say that. 

[btownqb 8,235]

Hey I'm an Indiana grad and I don't really care about their academic rep, truthfully, college is a scam. 

Get the best athletes in Bloomington. 

[Hoosierfanyuh 1,849]

Just now, btownqb said:

Hey I'm an Indiana grad and I don't really care about their academic rep, truthfully, college is a scam. 

Get the best athletes in Bloomington. 

Say it louder for the people in the back