Offensive Coordinator - Walt Bell

[JSHoosier 19,568]

Underwhelming (at best), but not sure what we should really expect with IUFB.

[IU Scott 2,375]

I find it hilarious how people on a message board has any clue whether a hire is good or not.  Most couldn't even tell you who most of the assistant coaches are let alone how good they are.  I know if is part of being on these boards but some of you guys need to get a grip and let things play out before jumping to conclusions.  I guess I need to realize there will be plenty of people bitching no matter the hire.

[Hoosierfan2017 19,887]

11 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I find it hilarious how people on a message board has any clue whether a hire is good or not.  Most couldn't even tell you who most of the assistant coaches are let alone how good they are.  I know if is part of being on these boards but some of you guys need to get a grip and let things play out before jumping to conclusions.  I guess I need to realize there will be plenty of people bitching no matter the hire.

Not really sure how you want people to react. We just hired a guy who was fired after going 2-23 at UMass and had mediocre stints at Maryland and Florida State before then. It’s not exactly the splashy hire people hoped for after a 2-10 season full of disgusting offense. 

[JSHoosier 19,568]

15 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I find it hilarious how people on a message board has any clue whether a hire is good or not.  Most couldn't even tell you who most of the assistant coaches are let alone how good they are.  I know if is part of being on these boards but some of you guys need to get a grip and let things play out before jumping to conclusions.  I guess I need to realize there will be plenty of people bitching no matter the hire.

We can form an opinion on the information we have, which in this case is less than impressive.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,192]

21 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I find it hilarious how people on a message board has any clue whether a hire is good or not.  Most couldn't even tell you who most of the assistant coaches are let alone how good they are.  I know if is part of being on these boards but some of you guys need to get a grip and let things play out before jumping to conclusions.  I guess I need to realize there will be plenty of people bitching no matter the hire.

It doesn't take any sort of expert to see he's not exactly some mind blowing and great offensive mind. He's really just on Sheridan's level. He's proven how bad he is. 

[OGIUAndy 658]

6 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

It doesn't take any sort of expert to see he's not exactly some mind blowing and great offensive mind. He's really just on Sheridan's level. He's proven how bad he is. 

And it definitely doesn't take an expert to know you're definitely not one. So I say we just see what happens (in a year) and go from there. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,634]

37 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I find it hilarious how people on a message board has any clue whether a hire is good or not.  Most couldn't even tell you who most of the assistant coaches are let alone how good they are.  I know if is part of being on these boards but some of you guys need to get a grip and let things play out before jumping to conclusions.  I guess I need to realize there will be plenty of people bitching no matter the hire.

"I can't believe message board chatter is happening on a message board even though I know it's part of being on a message board" is my favorite kind of message-boarding. 

[Alford Bailey 12,249]

8 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Well he was a former head coach, I think CTA wanted someone who could be the head coach of the offense, he wanted someone with P5 experience as an OC and someone who would do it for a discount. He also speaks CTA language about making the players better men in life than just players blah blah blah. Just win for me, which it doesn't look like he has done a whole lot of. 

Any idea what we are paying him?

[HoosierTownie 144]

So I've kind of taken the day to let this hire sink in, while checking this board periodically as time allowed.  While I accept that this is not the type of hire many wanted, and yes, much of the information I've seen here is nothing that makes me jump for joy, I also have not had time to research him for myself.  But, I understand that IU is not a top flight destination for most coaches trying to work their way up the coaching ladder, and that had we have been able to land the type of hire many on here seem to have wanted, it would have been another DeBoer situation and they would be gone for greener pastures in a year or 2.

Bell has the requisite experience, even if the results leave something to be desired.  Does anyone here truly believe that CTA would purposely hire someone that will cost him his job in a couple of years?  I don't, but I also know that IU is not going to pay to bring in a top flight coordinator, so I trust that CTA made the hire that he thought was best given whatever constraints he had placed on him.

As others have said, there are many examples of successful coordinators moving up to HC positions and failing.  Cam Cameron being a prime example.  The decision has been made, and as an IU fan I will root like hell for him to succeed.  Yes, some players and recruits will decide to move on, so be it, if they, or the staff, don't believe the fit is right.  I just can't get on board with bashing the guy before the hire has even been officially announced.   Hopefully, as IU fans, we can all agree that whether or not we agree with the hire, we hope he succeeds, and makes IU better.

[Homer 20]

1 hour ago, OGIUAndy said:

And it definitely doesn't take an expert to know you're definitely not one. So I say we just see what happens (in a year) and go from there. 

The issue with hiring someone with underwhelming credentials is if we can see it so can recruits.

[Chris007 42,106]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

Any idea what we are paying him?

Someone posted earlier that UMASS owed him $700 buyout but doesn’t have to pay it now since he’ll be making more than that at IU

[IU Scott 2,375]

3 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Not really sure how you want people to react. We just hired a guy who was fired after going 2-23 at UMass and had mediocre stints at Maryland and Florida State before then. It’s not exactly the splashy hire people hoped for after a 2-10 season full of disgusting offense. 

There has been plenty of good coordinators that wasn't good as a HC.  So to me his record as a HC had no effect on his ability to be an OC.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,743]

Whatever. Tom Allen is coaching for his job next 2 seasons. We don’t have money. So he’s mostly safe. That’s also why NIL is spinning it’s wheels. Would be nice if Cuban gave us 10 mill per season. Lol. I’m not getting my hopes up. Will watch and laugh like the good ole days.


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[IU Scott 2,375]

I don't think anyone is saying this is a great hire but why not let it play out before you bash the coach.  It does no good for the program to have this reaction.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,192]

35 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

There has been plenty of good coordinators that wasn't good as a HC.  So to me his record as a HC had no effect on his ability to be an OC.

 

He's proven his ability as an OC at talent level schools like Indiana. He wasn't good. 

[Alford Bailey 12,249]

9 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I don't think anyone is saying this is a great hire but why not let it play out before you bash the coach.  It does no good for the program to have this reaction.

Always that one guy who only complains about other posters…..

[IU Scott 2,375]

10 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Always that one guy who only complains about other posters…..

Because posters like you guys make it hard to read this board.  It is no fun being around negative people all the time

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,192]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Because posters like you guys make it hard to read this board.  It is no fun being around negative people all the time

 

Well then maybe you should call up the IU athletic department and ask them why such a negative hire was made. 

[Alford Bailey 12,249]

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

Because posters like you guys make it hard to read this board.  It is no fun being around negative people all the time

 

If you can’t handle fans having an honest conversation about a historically bad football program this may not be the place for you. BTB is EXTREMELY low key compared to most social media outlets btw.

[IU Scott 2,375]

9 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

If you can’t handle fans having an honest conversation about a historically bad football program this may not be the place for you. BTB is EXTREMELY low key compared to most social media outlets btw.

I have been a fan for 50 years and have seen a lot worse seasons than this one. The four years before this season is one of the better 4 years stretch in IU football history.  What purpose does ripping on recruits who decides to play at IU.  Also why not wait to make a decision on this hire.  When you go in with a negative attitude you will never change your viewpoint and find anything to back that viewpoint.