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9 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

Trying to wrap this up for @normandale97, @RaceToTheTop and @Josh. Go to the 38 minute mark of the HH podcast. They are talking about other conferences getting more talent than the B1G. Eric says " . . . but NIL should level the playing field . . ." in regards to cheating. Coach Ya responds that it doesn't. 

Also, Coach Ya wasn't convicted by the courts for any wrongdoing and the NCAA cleared him of wrongdoing. He addressed the situation in a HH podcast which aired his first spring/summer in Bloomington. 

I hope this helps. Cheers, everyone! 

I didn’t really take Ya’s response that it didn’t level the playing field as saying there was cheating.  My take is that since NIL money is different at different places, thd field isn’t going to be level.

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13 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

 I don’t disagree about it being an unregulated Wild West, which is basically all that Ya said from what I heard.  He did say that last year NIL really wasn’t much of a factor in transfers but now it is.

NIL was one hundred percent a factor in transfers last year - out of touch comment

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58 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

NIL was one hundred percent a factor in transfers last year - out of touch comment

I meant to type ‘as’ much of a factor instead of ‘much of a factor. He was comparing it how much NIL is a factor this year compared to last year.  I don’t that is really debatable given how much more movement there is this year and schools increasing the their NIL.

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9 hours ago, Josh said:

I don't understand why it's a bad thing to note the hypocrisy in Ya complaining about other coaches cheating.

Outside of it being lame? Not a bad thing, I guess. 

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6 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

Here is why it is an issue. Because he drops these one liners like so many “fans” and dig at our program. It is never ending. go on Twitter for one day and look at it. You may say, I don’t go on Twitter, etc. ok, but it still exists. Recruits, players, families etc all see it. The internet has made people take what was once a conversation over a beer and feel free to have that same conversation for the world to see. 

- staff can’t close, can’t recruit shooters, we lose every recruit, the recruits we got suck, our players suck, we can’t hit free throws, why are they doing Yoga, shoot free throws, Ya is a Joke, Woodson is lazy, on and on and on. 

I get it, there is passion. People who watch sports like to complain a little. Sure. We all like to be armchair quarterbacks. But our fans take it way too far and do it all the time. 90% of the time, what they complained about never happened or changed in 24 hours.  

I mean we had people sending Trayce letters and sending heaters directly at players on Twitter all the time this year. 

I just don’t understand why some of them are fans. Move on. It doesn’t help us at all. 

Yes, I know there are a few more crazies like Kentucky fans but what is that saying about if everyone jumps off a bridge ….or if you don’t have anything nice to say…. 

and typical, claims and posts are made like this and then …. Nothing. Silence. Don’t go half in. You got something to say, say it. 

First you say not to say anything that brings up the bad things within the program, then you say we should?  Color me confused.  Please let me know if I'm allowed to make comments or not.

Look, the whole Ya thing happened within the FBI sting.  We're supposed to act like it didn't?   That's not reality.  I like to live in reality.  Sorry it triggers you, but it's a truth.

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I have no idea about this cheating conversation but from what I have been told from coaches, not IU coaches, is that some programs are contacting kids before they are in the portal, trying to get them to enter the portal. Which is illegal of course, the other thing is some programs are discussing NIL deals with the players when the rules state that is not allowed. A player's NIL agent should be discussing the NIL deal with a NIL organization for the program. Head coaches should not know how much each player is making. 

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18 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Happy Tuesday of little 5 week. I've heard our town will get all kinds of visitors for the greatest college weekend and one of them might be a basketball recruit. But that has not been confirmed. 

I've been in Bloomington for several Little 5 weekends. Sad thing is that I only have spotty recollection of them. Not sure why that is :-D

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47 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Happy Tuesday of little 5 week. I've heard our town will get all kinds of visitors for the greatest college weekend and one of them might be a basketball recruit. But that has not been confirmed. 

Thanks. As always, appreciate your feedback and tidbits. Please advise if/when a Dalton sighting might occur. lol 

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Jordan Hulls just started following 6'9" Oklahoma portal entry small forward Jacob Groves on Instagram.

Had a great tournament for Eastern Washington a few years ago, and shot it well with limited attempts while starting about 2/3 of Oklahoma's games last year.

Stay tuned on this one:

Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS   SOS
2019-20 Eastern Washington Big Sky 26 0 6.6 1.2 2.2 .534 1.1 1.7 .674 0.1 0.6 .133 0.3 0.6 .563 0.6 1.2 1.8 0.3 0.2 0.0 0.6 1.0 2.8   -1.81
2020-21 Eastern Washington Big Sky 24 14 21.8 3.8 6.8 .552 3.1 5.0 .622 0.7 1.8 .364 1.2 1.5 .757 1.0 3.2 4.2 0.9 0.5 0.1 1.2 2.5 9.3   -3.15
2021-22 Oklahoma Big 12 34 12 17.3 1.8 4.1 .432 1.1 1.9 .578 0.7 2.2 .307 0.4 0.7 .609 0.7 2.1 2.9 0.4 0.2 0.1 0.7 1.4 4.6   10.10
2022-23 Oklahoma Big 12 32 22 20.5 2.5 5.8 .438 1.4 2.8 .500 1.2 3.0 .381 0.5 0.8 .708 0.5 2.0 2.5 0.8 0.4 0.1 0.8 1.2 6.8   11.25
Career Overall   116 48 16.7 2.3 4.7 .481 1.6 2.7 .586 0.7 2.0 .338 0.6 0.9 .680 0.7 2.1 2.8 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.8 1.5 5.8   4.10
  Eastern Washington   50 14 13.9 2.4 4.4 .548 2.1 3.2 .636 0.4 1.2 .305 0.7 1.1 .698 0.8 2.2 2.9 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.9 1.7 5.9    
  Oklahoma   66 34 18.8 2.1 4.9 .435 1.2 2.3 .533 0.9 2.6 .349 0.5 0.7 .660 0.6 2.1 2.7 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.8 1.3 5.7    

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8 hours ago, Ngw7183 said:

90% of the time, what they complained about never happened or changed in 24 hours.  

 

Reminds me of a quote I once saw about Twitter: "90% of Twitter is people imagining a problem, tricking themselves into believing that problem is real, and then getting angry about it." 

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4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Jordan Hulls just started following 6'9" Oklahoma portal entry small forward Jacob Groves on Instagram.

Had a great tournament for Eastern Washington a few years ago, and shot it well with limited attempts while starting about 2/3 of Oklahoma's games last year.

Stay tuned on this one:

Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS   SOS
Career Overall   116 48 16.7 2.3 4.7 .481 1.6 2.7 .586 0.7 2.0 .338 0.6 0.9 .680 0.7 2.1 2.8 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.8 1.5 5.8   4.10
  Eastern Washington   50 14 13.9 2.4 4.4 .548 2.1 3.2 .636 0.4 1.2 .305 0.7 1.1 .698 0.8 2.2 2.9 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.9 1.7 5.9    
  Oklahoma   66 34 18.8 2.1 4.9 .435 1.2 2.3 .533 0.9 2.6 .349 0.5 0.7 .660 0.6 2.1 2.7 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.8 1.3 5.7    
2019-20 Eastern Washington Big Sky 26 0 6.6 1.2 2.2 .534 1.1 1.7 .674 0.1 0.6 .133 0.3 0.6 .563 0.6 1.2 1.8 0.3 0.2 0.0 0.6 1.0 2.8   -1.81
2020-21 Eastern Washington Big Sky 24 14 21.8 3.8 6.8 .552 3.1 5.0 .622 0.7 1.8 .364 1.2 1.5 .757 1.0 3.2 4.2 0.9 0.5 0.1 1.2 2.5 9.3   -3.15
2021-22 Oklahoma Big 12 34 12 17.3 1.8 4.1 .432 1.1 1.9 .578 0.7 2.2 .307 0.4 0.7 .609 0.7 2.1 2.9 0.4 0.2 0.1 0.7 1.4 4.6   10.10
2022-23 Oklahoma Big 12 32 22 20.5 2.5 5.8 .438 1.4 2.8 .500 1.2 3.0 .381 0.5 0.8 .708 0.5 2.0 2.5 0.8 0.4 0.1 0.8 1.2 6.8   11.25

certainly not a swing for the fences.  

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3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

certainly not a swing for the fences.  

Definitely not a natural ability swing for the fences. He's a playable 22 year old that's good on catch and shoot and with a high culture/leadership element. OU Coach Moser on Groves:

“Every single day at practice, he brings it,” Moser said. “Every day he communicates. Every day, he’s putting in his time on his shot. He’s an everyday guy. That’s the difference between him and a lot of guys in this generation. It’s every day. Some guys get all fired up and it’s like a New Year’s resolution. People like my age are in the gym for a little bit and then they taper off. Jacob has been every single day.

“Every day, he’s on his prep. He’s getting his shots up. He’s on his nutrition. Success is paying off for him because he is every day. The word I think for Jacob is it’s been ‘consistent’ for him.”

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4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If any hadn’t heard the very first Rosemond podcast when he was hired by IU  with HH I would highly recommend it.  He doesn’t hide from what happened and told his side of the story.  I comes down to if you believe it or not.   just having his name mentioned with the FBI is enough for people to never give someone the benefit of the doubt or second chance.    Others might look at it and conclude that he didn’t get hit with a show cause and the school at the time found he did nothing wrong after internal investigation(although I can see skepticism with Bama being that school).   In my opinion clearly did their due diligence and background checks before they would on the hire.     I know listening to him he is very grateful to woody for the second chance.   Personally I was on the fence at the beginning but after listening and reading up on the stuff on my own I decided to give him a chance.   Glad I did because he has been a great addition to IU 

I'm guessing that you, as much as anyone, have seen Jacob Groves play many, many times.

Let's assume he's a guaranteed positive locker room presence. Can he also be an on-court piece?

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4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If any hadn’t heard the very first Rosemond podcast when he was hired by IU  with HH I would highly recommend it.  He doesn’t hide from what happened and told his side of the story.  I comes down to if you believe it or not.   just having his name mentioned with the FBI is enough for people to never give someone the benefit of the doubt or second chance.    Others might look at it and conclude that he didn’t get hit with a show cause and the school at the time found he did nothing wrong after internal investigation(although I can see skepticism with Bama being that school).   In my opinion clearly did their due diligence and background checks before they would on the hire.     I know listening to him he is very grateful to woody for the second chance.   Personally I was on the fence at the beginning but after listening and reading up on the stuff on my own I decided to give him a chance.   Glad I did because he has been a great addition to IU 

I can imagine if social media/cell phones existed when some of us were in school - we’d be pariahs . . .

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7 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

I can imagine if social media/cell phones existed when some of us were in school - we’d be pariahs  IN PRISON

Fixed that for you :) 

So as of now we have a possible visitor this weekend, but nothing else scheduled that we know of? 

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8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I'm guessing that you, as much as anyone, have seen Jacob Groves play many, many times.

Let's assume he's a guaranteed positive locker room presence. Can he also be an on-court piece?

I think so but won’t be the focal point.    Has size and can shoot the ball.    Not a physical player and if I’m remembering not that good of rebounder but if he is willing to play a role then yes he would be a good piece.    

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