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11 hours ago, Banksyrules said:

I hope they only get a couple players. It seems like we can do well for the 2024 class. 

Leaving roster spots open was a silly idea when Archie tried it and it is an even sillier one now. They need to build a full team this year and rebuild it again next year as necessary. Decent transfers contribute more than all but the best freshman so it is going to take a mix of transfers and talented incoming freshman every year. 

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With Stansbury out at Western Kentucky, I wonder if Jamarion Sharp will hit the portal.

7'5", just finished his sophomore year, truly mobile, good defensive instincts, and with a good motor. With some real coaching he could be special, and he fits the rim protector mold like few others. And if you ever hear him interviewed, he seems like a really nice, squared away kid.

He took a quick portal look last year - I expect him to go to the portal with his coach departing.

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1 hour ago, hoosierbgh said:

Leaving roster spots open was a silly idea when Archie tried it and it is an even sillier one now. They need to build a full team this year and rebuild it again next year as necessary. Decent transfers contribute more than all but the best freshman so it is going to take a mix of transfers and talented incoming freshman every year. 

If we can identify the right players. Not everyone transferring is a stud.  Quality matters and I don’t want to waste a spot and have a player actually be detriment to team chemistry. 

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1 hour ago, hoosierbgh said:

Leaving roster spots open was a silly idea when Archie tried it and it is an even sillier one now. They need to build a full team this year and rebuild it again next year as necessary. Decent transfers contribute more than all but the best freshman so it is going to take a mix of transfers and talented incoming freshman every year. 

We literally had fans that wanted this done because they couldn't handle the oversign. We are a very wishy washy bunch. 

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17 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

If we can identify the right players. Not everyone transferring is a stud.  Quality matters and I don’t want to waste a spot and have a player actually be detriment to team chemistry. 

Team chemistry is always a concern and IU definitely needs the right fit as well as talent but they need bodies. The spot is only a waste if we were to miss out on a better fit/talent for this upcoming year. Any that don't pan out won't be around to take up a scholarship for another year. 

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

With Stansbury out at Western Kentucky, I wonder if Jamarion Sharp will hit the portal.

7'5", just finished his sophomore year, truly mobile, good defensive instincts, and with a good motor. With some real coaching he could be special, and he fits the rim protector mold like few others. And if you ever hear him interviewed, he seems like a really nice, squared away kid.

He took a quick portal look last year - I expect him to go to the portal with his coach departing.

Don’t let Matt Painter hear this 

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Just now, hoosierbgh said:

Team chemistry is always a concern and IU definitely needs the right fit as well as talent but they need bodies. The spot is only a waste if we were to miss out on a better fit/talent for this upcoming year. Any that don't pan out won't be around to take up a scholarship for another year. 

I only say this because I believe some of the past transfers in the past have caused chemistry issues. Chemistry issues typically linger and that it could lead other players to develop the wrong mindset (maybe the freshman). I’m not saying no to getting a bunch of transfers, I just want it to be the right fit.  Our women’s team is how I want the men to pursue these kids.  Everyone of their transfers were all on board from the get go and all know their rolls. 

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20 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Notre Dame G J.J. Starling hits the portal. Former 5 star 2022 recruit. 6'4" 11ppg, 2.8 reb, 1.1 ast, 1.5 TO, 42% FG, 29.9% 3PT

It would not surprise me if there is IUBB interest here.

Look past the numbers -- this kid played a lot of minutes as a freshman on a team with pretty much no other shot-makers. He had to create and take a lot of tough shots with no big like Trayce to attract attention away from him. He did fade badly down the stretch of the season -- clearly got frustrated and was unhappy at the end of the year.

However, very talented/dynamic and very high quality kid/academics. Was a Notre Dame, Stanford, Northwestern decision the first time around.

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11 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I only say this because I believe some of the past transfers in the past have caused chemistry issues. Chemistry issues typically linger and that it could lead other players to develop the wrong mindset (maybe the freshman). I’m not saying no to getting a bunch of transfers, I just want it to be the right fit.  Our women’s team is how I want the men to pursue these kids.  Everyone of their transfers were all on board from the get go and all know their rolls. 

I trust the current staff. They've shown they are willing to give kids a chance but will cut ties when necessary. At the end of the day you kind of have to because chemistry can be just as much of an issue with incoming freshman as transfers so they're going to be making those decisions regardless. In some ways, I can see it being a little easier knowing what to expect with a transfer that has already played a year or more of college ball. I'm also not too worried about anyone corrupting freshman like Newton and especially Cupps. 

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20 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I only say this because I believe some of the past transfers in the past have caused chemistry issues. Chemistry issues typically linger and that it could lead other players to develop the wrong mindset (maybe the freshman). I’m not saying no to getting a bunch of transfers, I just want it to be the right fit.  Our women’s team is how I want the men to pursue these kids.  Everyone of their transfers were all on board from the get go and all know their rolls. 

100%.

The staff (and every staff) clearly weighs chemistry in making these decisions. Hence, Chris Ledlum from Harvard is apparently the first player we're pursuing. It also explains why the first three portal guys under Woody have been Kopp (who just won the conference sportsmanship award), and Xavier and Parker Stewart (who Kenya Hunter had close pre-existing relationships with). 

Doesn't mean we'll always get it right, but it's a clear priority element in the formula.

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5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

100%.

The staff (and every staff) clearly weighs chemistry in making these decisions. Hence, Chris Ledlum from Harvard is apparently the first player we're pursuing. It also explains why the first three portal guys under Woody have been Kopp (who just won the conference sportsmanship award), and Xavier and Parker Stewart (who Kenya Hunter had close pre-existing relationships with). 

Doesn't mean we'll always get it right, but it's a clear priority element in the formula.

Stewart was a Miller addition.  He was also one that seemed to cause chemistry issues. Unlike Kopp and Xavier (although Xavier has made questionable decisions off the court). Durr was another Woodson addition. 

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

It would not surprise me if there is IUBB interest here.

Look past the numbers -- this kid played a lot of minutes as a freshman on a team with pretty much no other shot-makers. He had to create and take a lot of tough shots with no big like Trayce to attract attention away from him. He did fade badly down the stretch of the season -- clearly got frustrated and was unhappy at the end of the year.

However, very talented/dynamic and very high quality kid/academics. Was a Notre Dame, Stanford, Northwestern decision the first time around.

Good points, except......he won't have a big like TJD to attract attention at IU either! 

I agree with Wayne that as the projected roster looks now, getting the highest level 5 is top priority. Obviously not gonna find a true TJD replacement, but that is the biggest hole on the team. Assuming Duncomb bolts, that leaves only Reneau- a little undersized and foul prone- who is a better fit at the 4, IMO.

I think a couple of competent bigs and a shooter should keep IU competitive.  Of course, maybe Woodson has just been adapting to TJD and will roll out a 4 guard line-up next year with Geronimo as the post. 

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51 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Good points, except......he won't have a big like TJD to attract attention at IU either! 

I agree with Wayne that as the projected roster looks now, getting the highest level 5 is top priority. Obviously not gonna find a true TJD replacement, but that is the biggest hole on the team. Assuming Duncomb bolts, that leaves only Reneau- a little undersized and foul prone- who is a better fit at the 4, IMO.

I think a couple of competent bigs and a shooter should keep IU competitive.  Of course, maybe Woodson has just been adapting to TJD and will roll out a 4 guard line-up next year with Geronimo as the post. 

Unless Maliks outside shot becomes a bigger part of his game, I cannot say I want to see him getting mins at that spot, again, moving forward. 

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3 minutes ago, Hoosier1984 said:

Already received crystal ball from Eric Bossi to Syracuse. Guessing since he is from NY but hope we go after him. 

I imagine Syracuse fans are grasping for anything positive these days.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier1984 said:

Already received crystal ball from Eric Bossi to Syracuse. Guessing since he is from NY but hope we go after him. 

Would make sense ... Syracuse will have program continuity by naming Adrian Autry to the job. And then there's this: 

During an April 2021 conversation with a Syracuse.com reporter, Starling talked about his friendship with Trey Autry and his close relationship with Adrian Autry as factors in his Syracuse interest. “That’s a great school. Great people. Been close to them forever,” he said. “Coach Autry, Trey, that’s like family, that’s like my brother. We’ve been close since third grade. Met at a basketball camp at Syracuse. And then we played AAU against each other and with each other, so yeah, Syracuse is always going to be on my mind.”

 

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10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Would make sense ... Syracuse will have program continuity by naming Adrian Autry to the job. And then there's this: 

During an April 2021 conversation with a Syracuse.com reporter, Starling talked about his friendship with Trey Autry and his close relationship with Adrian Autry as factors in his Syracuse interest. “That’s a great school. Great people. Been close to them forever,” he said. “Coach Autry, Trey, that’s like family, that’s like my brother. We’ve been close since third grade. Met at a basketball camp at Syracuse. And then we played AAU against each other and with each other, so yeah, Syracuse is always going to be on my mind.”

 

Probably just likes the idea of standing there defensively in a 2-3 zone. Fun stuff that would be. Eye roll

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