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[HoosierInParadise 1,683]

I'm not sure why there is so much negative talk about Brooks. He obviously came out of high school as a highly regarded talent. Why couldn't his college career just be a "fit" situation? Much like Justin Smith. Justin seemed to thrive at his new school. If Brooks is available and wants to come and Woodson sees how he would contribute to winning...you take him and make it work. No one would have cared one bit when Archie was struggling to win if he would have taken a Brooks type player and pushed someone else out of it potentially meant more wins.

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[IUCrazy2 2,980]

24 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I'm not sure why there is so much negative talk about Brooks. He obviously came out of high school as a highly regarded talent. Why couldn't his college career just be a "fit" situation? Much like Justin Smith. Justin seemed to thrive at his new school. If Brooks is available and wants to come and Woodson sees how he would contribute to winning...you take him and make it work. No one would have cared one bit when Archie was struggling to win if he would have taken a Brooks type player and pushed someone else out of it potentially meant more wins.

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For me, the way his recruitment went down left a bad taste in my mouth to begin with.  Getting heavily recruited by Indiana, you choose to go to rival 1 or 1a depending on what part of the state you are from and then his parents bad mouthed the fanbase.

And his career at UK turned out just about like everyone said it would.  He was not the typical Calipari "I could be in the NBA right now if not for the rules" player and it showed.  So now we are supposed to boot a kid off the team who has committed and fought through some really tough years to make room for him?  I mean if he comes I will support the kid, but I don't want to boot Jerome or Rob or Galloway or Leal to make room for Brooks.  

He made his bed.

[HoosierInParadise 1,683]

For me, the way his recruitment went down left a bad taste in my mouth to begin with.  Getting heavily recruited by Indiana, you choose to go to rival 1 or 1a depending on what part of the state you are from and then his parents bad mouthed the fanbase.
And his career at UK turned out just about like everyone said it would.  He was not the typical Calipari "I could be in the NBA right now if not for the rules" player and it showed.  So now we are supposed to boot a kid off the team who has committed and fought through some really tough years to make room for him?  I mean if he comes I will support the kid, but I don't want to boot Jerome or Rob or Galloway or Leal to make room for Brooks.  
He made his bed.

I get it. Emotions drive a lot of opinions in sports. There is part of me that would never want LeBron James on the Pacers because I don't particularly care for him. However, if he ever did play for the Pacers I would be all in and I wouldn't particularly care if they had to trade one of my favorite players to get him. I want the best players on my teams that play their hardest a d give us the best chance to win....regardless of what their past was like or how I view them as a person. Note: I am not comparing Brooks to LeBron James as players.

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 92,063]

Oklahoma transfer De’Vion Harmon has committed to Oregon.  Will continue the NBA Draft process but if he returns to the NCAA it will be in Eugene.

[Uspshoosier 54,596]

Let’s keep this thread on track and about the transfer portal and the kids in it.    Brooks isn’t in the portal yet 

[HoosierInParadise 1,683]

Let’s keep this thread on track and about the transfer portal and the kids in it.    Brooks isn’t in the portal yet 

Sorry about that...

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[Uspshoosier 54,596]

Just now, mbredenk101 said:

Sorry about that...

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No prob.   Definitely not the only one.   Last 4 days almost everything in here is about Brooks.  If he ever puts his name in the portal then we can pick up the talk.  I get the intrigue but until he is in the portal it’s a mute point 

[Uspshoosier 54,596]

Source: LSU transfer Jalen Cook and UNC Asheville transfer DeVon Baker have both committed to Tulane.

jon Rothstein 

[iu eyedoc 4,507]

1 hour ago, mbredenk101 said:

I'm not sure why there is so much negative talk about Brooks. He obviously came out of high school as a highly regarded talent. Why couldn't his college career just be a "fit" situation? Much like Justin Smith. Justin seemed to thrive at his new school. If Brooks is available and wants to come and Woodson sees how he would contribute to winning...you take him and make it work. No one would have cared one bit when Archie was struggling to win if he would have taken a Brooks type player and pushed someone else out of it potentially meant more wins.

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Problem is when CMW says: 

"My first job is to sit down with each one of them and talk about staying in Hoosier Nation. You know, that's what's important. And if I got to plead and beg a little bit to keep them here, I'm going to do that."

Then you have 13 guys sign up to go to war with you.

Essential leaving a man behind is not a good look or where I want the program to be.

You could make a bit of a justification for a program changing talent, but Brooks is not that.

I take these 13 and expect improvement, next year through normal attrition (early NBA/ PT transfers) there will be more space made available and the following yr there is 4 open spots

 

[IUCrazy2 2,980]

20 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I get it. Emotions drive a lot of opinions in sports. There is part of me that would never want LeBron James on the Pacers because I don't particularly care for him. However, if he ever did play for the Pacers I would be all in and I wouldn't particularly care if they had to trade one of my favorite players to get him. I want the best players on my teams that play their hardest a d give us the best chance to win....regardless of what their past was like or how I view them as a person. Note: I am not comparing Brooks to LeBron James as players.

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He is a 6'7" player who shot 21% from 3 last year and 44% from the field.  He turned the ball over almost 2 times a game.  Yes he scored 10 points and pulled down almost 7 boards but he played on a team that won 9 games.  His Dad is a big mouth which can be detrimental to programs.  His time is ticking away to show he is NBA ready and he knows that.

Hunter has already been a role player. Hunter was worth 6 points and 3 rebounds with better 3 point percentage in 6 less minutes a game. Galloway is just getting started and had an injury hamper his freshman year and when you look at his stats, they are not much different from Brooks in his freshman year.

I just am not seeing Brooks as being all that big of an add.  We need guys who can space the floor and he is not that guy.  This is not a huge upgrade so why push a guy out for someone whose career has been underwhelming to date?

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28 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Let’s keep this thread on track and about the transfer portal and the kids in it.    Brooks isn’t in the portal yet 

Sorry, saw this after my last post.  I will drop it.

[Stuhoo 90,178]

25 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

He is a 6'7" player who shot 21% from 3 last year and 44% from the field.  He turned the ball over almost 2 times a game.  Yes he scored 10 points and pulled down almost 7 boards but he played on a team that won 9 games.  His Dad is a big mouth which can be detrimental to programs.  His time is ticking away to show he is NBA ready and he knows that.

Hunter has already been a role player. Hunter was worth 6 points and 3 rebounds with better 3 point percentage in 6 less minutes a game. Galloway is just getting started and had an injury hamper his freshman year and when you look at his stats, they are not much different from Brooks in his freshman year.

I just am not seeing Brooks as being all that big of an add.  We need guys who can space the floor and he is not that guy.  This is not a huge upgrade so why push a guy out for someone whose career has been underwhelming to date?

“His Dad is a big mouth which can be detrimental to programs.  His time is ticking away to show he is NBA ready and he knows that.”

I see this repeatedly asserted with NO basis.

He is an excellent student and would be going into his third year of college. What the hell is this narrative based on, other than people who are pissed he didn’t go to IU who are projecting?

[RaceToTheTop 31,438]

Didn't see this until today, but looks like I struck a nerve with Jeff Goodman.

 

 

[MemphisHoosier 2,410]

Just now, brumdog45 said:

Didn't see this until today, but looks like I struck a nerve with Jeff Goodman.

 

 

You're famous @brumdog45....also - rent free, man haha!

[Brass Cannon 25,529]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

“His Dad is a big mouth which can be detrimental to programs.  His time is ticking away to show he is NBA ready and he knows that.”

I see this repeatedly asserted with NO basis.

He is an excellent student and would be going into his third year of college. What the hell is this narrative based on, other than people who are pissed he didn’t go to IU projecting.

This so much 

Don’t get the trashing of Brooks he had a PER of over 19. Was he ready for the NBA not at all but kid was a talented player.  His shooting means he probably wouldn’t fit Woodsons system but kid would be a stud in a lot of systems.  

[Brass Cannon 25,529]

6 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Didn't see this until today, but looks like I struck a nerve with Jeff Goodman.

 

 

When was the last time this dude even pretended to be a quality journalist 

[Hippopotamo 707]

Just ignore Jeff Goodman and he’ll go away. He wants to trigger IU fans and so many of you guys are taking the bait. 

[RaceToTheTop 31,438]

De'Vion Harmon, formerly of Oklahoma, has committed to Oregon.

For the record, the comings and goings of players now with Porter Moser at the helm at Oklahoma:

Transferred out:  De'Vion Harmon (Oregon).  12.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.1 apg

                               Brady Manek (North Carolina).  10.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg

                               Victor Iwuakor (UNLV).  2.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg

                               Trey Phipps (Oral Roberts):  2.6 ppg,

 Still in the portal:  Anyang Garang.  Only played 29 minutes total last year.

                                 Kur Kuath.  5.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg.

                                 Alondes Williams.  6.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.3 apg

Transferred in:  Ethan Chargois (SMU).  8.8 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.5 apg

                            Jordan Goldwire (Duke).  5.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.0 apg

                            Jacob Groves (Eastern Washington).  9.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg

                           Tanner Groves (Eastern Washington).  17.2 ppg, 9.0 rpg.

[Stuhoo 90,178]

3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

When was the last time this dude even pretended to be a quality journalist 

He’s not pretending to be an analyst for The Economist. He’s a sports opinion guy who is having fun with an engaged fan base.

Brumdog and Coach Fife have it right—fire back with good humor and enjoy!

[Deserthoozier 1,130]

3 hours ago, iu eyedoc said:

Well it  would be an either or situation as for Brooks if he enters the portal. Either a current Hoosier "chooses" to continue his playing career elsewhere or Brooks wont be a Hoosier.

It would work itself out...without everyone pilling on either potential new recruits (he didn’t want us enough before, so F’em!!) or taking apart existing players (can’t shoot, marginal B1G level talent), etc. Let’s not knit pick analysis and get super negative on either side. The college ball player market is as fluid as it gets...and that’s likely staying. Don’t fight the flow...buy a raft, enjoy the river ride...and let’s Win Baby!!