2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,061]

Going to pUKe. Even more bench time for Keion Brooks lol!

He’s visiting, hasn’t committed correct?


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[Uspshoosier 45,326]

He’s visiting, hasn’t committed correct?


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Just visiting. Also visiting Tennessee. The Vols are going all in on him. My guess is Arkansas or Tennessee


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[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

I'm hedging my bets on UK. Cal is a good salesman, and Blackshear wants to make it in the NBA. He is a good enough player to get plenty of floor time in Lexington. May give up some shots, but that hasn't stopped the dozens of top recruits that has went there. Cal tells them straight up that is all about the show. Plus he has a real nice pro day for Scouts every season.

[RaceToTheTop 25,136]

1 hour ago, MoyeNeeded said:

I'm hedging my bets on UK. Cal is a good salesman, and Blackshear wants to make it in the NBA. He is a good enough player to get plenty of floor time in Lexington. May give up some shots, but that hasn't stopped the dozens of top recruits that has went there. Cal tells them straight up that is all about the show. Plus he has a real nice pro day for Scouts every season.

I'll take Cal over a guy like Bruce Pearl any day.  I don't view Cal as 'shady' anymore (in that I think the illegal stuff was pretty much pre-UK)....everything he seems to be doing is pretty out in the open.  He certainly does some things I don't like -- particularly the whole ridiculous luxury housing for the basketball team -- but the things he seems to have been doing at UK are inside of the rules, ethical or not.  Pearl on the other hand.....

[AKHoosier 6,758]

It would be hilarious if Blackshear goes to UK.  They'll be good no matter what, but the thought of Brooks having to compete that much more for playing time makes me smile.

Seriously, he'd have a guaranteed starting spot right now at IU.

[HoosierAloha 30,026]

I'll take Cal over a guy like Bruce Pearl any day.  I don't view Cal as 'shady' anymore (in that I think the illegal stuff was pretty much pre-UK)....everything he seems to be doing is pretty out in the open.  He certainly does some things I don't like -- particularly the whole ridiculous luxury housing for the basketball team -- but the things he seems to have been doing at UK are inside of the rules, ethical or not.  Pearl on the other hand.....

He insulates himself from that but to say the puke program isn’t skirting the rules is naive. There are plenty of middlemen and boosters taking care of those players.


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[MikeRoberts 6,942]

He insulates himself from that but to say the puke program isn’t skirting the rules is naive. There are plenty of middlemen and boosters taking care of those players.


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Yeah, I didn’t understand that comment either. They pretty much invented the 2000’s version of cheating


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[Stuhoo 79,863]

Our board is an appropriate place to spitball everything from every angle, including what has and could go wrong with the IUBB program, but occasionally someone with an inside perspective gives context of the real upside of what is to come:

 

 

Andy Graham‏ @AndyGraham7777 14h14 hours ago

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Heard things from various sources recently that reaffirm what I already believed: Archie Miller can really coach and continues to learn the lay of the land at IU. Won’t be easy. Big Ten is tough. Recruiting is tough. Avoiding injuries would help. But high-level success will come.

 

Andy Graham‏ @AndyGraham7777 Jun 5

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Notice: I've changed my username to @AndyGraham7777 from @agrahamiu because I've retired from Indiana athletics and am no longer formally affiliated with the university. Any actions or statements by me within this account are solely my own and do not reflect upon IU or its views.

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - Andy Graham, having long harbored a desire to serve his alma mater before concluding his lengthy career in journalism, feels both pleased and privileged to join Indiana Athletics' media relations department as a writer. Graham, who recently retired from the Bloomington Herald-Times after 35 years covering sports and news, will write features for IU Athletics when the 2017-18 academic and athletic year commences in August. He will also mentor the department's student writers.
 
A 1978 IU graduate in honors history, Graham has won many national and state awards for his writing. He was the 1997 Corky Lamm Indiana Sportswriter of the Year honor and, more recently, was named the state's top sports columnist in 2012 by the Hoosier State Press Association and the nation's top sports columnist for the H-T's circulation class in 2013 by the Associated Press Sports Editors.Graham was a 2013 inductee to the Indiana Sportswriters and Sportscasters Hall of Fame. He worked alongside legendary sports editor Bob Hammel at the H-T

[Brass Cannon 24,297]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Our board is an appropriate place to spitball everything from every angle, including what has and could go wrong with the IUBB program, but occasionally someone with an inside perspective gives context of the real upside of what is to come:

 

 

Andy Graham‏ @AndyGraham7777 14h14 hours ago

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Heard things from various sources recently that reaffirm what I already believed: Archie Miller can really coach and continues to learn the lay of the land at IU. Won’t be easy. Big Ten is tough. Recruiting is tough. Avoiding injuries would help. But high-level success will come.

 

Andy Graham‏ @AndyGraham7777 Jun 5

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Notice: I've changed my username to @AndyGraham7777 from @agrahamiu because I've retired from Indiana athletics and am no longer formally affiliated with the university. Any actions or statements by me within this account are solely my own and do not reflect upon IU or its views.

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. - Andy Graham, having long harbored a desire to serve his alma mater before concluding his lengthy career in journalism, feels both pleased and privileged to join Indiana Athletics' media relations department as a writer. Graham, who recently retired from the Bloomington Herald-Times after 35 years covering sports and news, will write features for IU Athletics when the 2017-18 academic and athletic year commences in August. He will also mentor the department's student writers.
 
A 1978 IU graduate in honors history, Graham has won many national and state awards for his writing. He was the 1997 Corky Lamm Indiana Sportswriter of the Year honor and, more recently, was named the state's top sports columnist in 2012 by the Hoosier State Press Association and the nation's top sports columnist for the H-T's circulation class in 2013 by the Associated Press Sports Editors.Graham was a 2013 inductee to the Indiana Sportswriters and Sportscasters Hall of Fame. He worked alongside legendary sports editor Bob Hammel at the H-T

While it’s nice to read these things.  Tons of people with inside info said Crean was the guy. 

At the end of the day no amount of words or hopeful musings are going to get the basketball program out of the dumpster. It’s going to be done with deeds and actions. 

[Stuhoo 79,863]

17 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

While it’s nice to read these things.  Tons of people with inside info said Crean was the guy. 

At the end of the day no amount of words or hopeful musings are going to get the basketball program out of the dumpster. It’s going to be done with deeds and actions. 

 

In my opinion, you  missed the point; this post was to illustrate that this is a tough task, but that people who see things up close are very confident, regardless of naysayers' speculation.

Your response was to immediately point out that an insider's positive perspective should be viewed with suspicion.

 

[Brass Cannon 24,297]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

In my opinion, you  missed the point; this post was to illustrate that this is a tough task, but that people who see things up close are very confident, regardless of naysayers' speculation.

Your response was to immediately point out that an insider's positive perspective should be viewed with suspicion.

 

No I got the point. But once again just because somebody from the inside thinks we are on the right track that doesn’t mean that much. 

We talk about how clueless the administration is but as soon as they say something we want to hear it’s all “oh did you hear what so and so said”. 

As I said Insiders said that Crean was building us back up. Yet now it’s come to light that he expected to rebuild every couple of years and it was normal. 

[Brass Cannon 24,297]

On 6/9/2019 at 4:57 PM, Brass Cannon said:

Anybody have a link to a list of all the games and there results in the series 

Never did find a detailed list but did find we lead the all time series 99-44 winning 30 of the last 34. 

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53 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

No I got the point. But once again just because somebody from the inside thinks we are on the right track that doesn’t mean that much. 

We talk about how clueless the administration is but as soon as they say something we want to hear it’s all “oh did you hear what so and so said”. 

As I said Insiders said that Crean was building us back up. Yet now it’s come to light that he expected to rebuild every couple of years and it was normal. 

I find myself personally in the middle of the optimists and pessimists.....but mostly from the viewpoint that my position doesn't make a difference in reality.  If I only looked for the good, as an IU football fan I'd have ulcers by now.

What I have found frustrating personally is that it's hard to bring up an optimistic statement on this board without being attacked (and this is 100% not directed on any one individual).  I certainly hear the same pessimistic statement/developments as others but those already get covered/stated.  Not bringing them up doesn't mean someone hasn't heard them, it just means that I don't have anything more to add to the conversation if it has been discussed fully.

Let me bring up a couple of players just for context:  DeVonte Green and Justin Smith.  I have probably as high of an opinion of Green's game as anybody on here.  Conversely, I am a Justin Smith naysayer.  But I tend not to add much to the Justin Smith conversations because what I have to say has already been said.  I don't talk much about Smith because what I am going to bring up isn't going to add to the conversation....I mean I could say the exact same thing as other people are saying, but it really wouldn't add anything.  I'll just like their post and move on.

With Green on the other hand, I feel what I put may add to the conversation because it offers an alternate view.

I think too often people are getting labeled as optimists or pessimists based on singular statements and people get taken to task when they provide a unique view.  I know I've been guilty of that.

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24 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

I find myself personally in the middle of the optimists and pessimists.....but mostly from the viewpoint that my position doesn't make a difference in reality.  If I only looked for the good, as an IU football fan I'd have ulcers by now.

What I have found frustrating personally is that it's hard to bring up an optimistic statement on this board without being attacked (and this is 100% not directed on any one individual).  I certainly hear the same pessimistic statement/developments as others but those already get covered/stated.  Not bringing them up doesn't mean someone hasn't heard them, it just means that I don't have anything more to add to the conversation if it has been discussed fully.

Let me bring up a couple of players just for context:  DeVonte Green and Justin Smith.  I have probably as high of an opinion of Green's game as anybody on here.  Conversely, I am a Justin Smith naysayer.  But I tend not to add much to the Justin Smith conversations because what I have to say has already been said.  I don't talk much about Smith because what I am going to bring up isn't going to add to the conversation....I mean I could say the exact same thing as other people are saying, but it really wouldn't add anything.  I'll just like their post and move on.

With Green on the other hand, I feel what I put may add to the conversation because it offers an alternate view.

I think too often people are getting labeled as optimists or pessimists based on singular statements and people get taken to task when they provide a unique view.  I know I've been guilty of that.

I'm right with you on Green. I'm a sucker for high ceiling guys and waiting on them to figure things out. I'm still waiting for the Charlie Miller breakout... I wasted way too much time trying to defend Green last year :). 

And agreed, the negativity can be really frustrating. Making a negative observation and then proposing a solution (i.e. the offense is struggling, I wish Archie would implement x, y , and z) can lead to a fun, productive conversation. Posting that we're losing recruiting momentum and are going to be no better last year, while maybe true, and certainly possible, is just negative to be negative. And that is definitely a minority of posts. But it only takes a few posts like that to derail and bring down the conversation. 

We all know that last year was bad, and nobody is going to be thrilled if the team is no better this year. But it seems like every time there's conversation about a decent recruit, somebody jumps in with the groundbreaking observation that recruiting momentum seems to have slowed and that Archie is going to have a hard time bringing in recruits unless Indiana starts winning... We all know that. Even those of us who prefer to focus on the glass half full approach to next year understand that another year or 2 like these past 2 would be too much to overcome. Even though the statement is technically true, its sole purpose seems to be to bring down any excitement that others have for the future. And what's the point of following IU basketball without some hope in the future? Following IU is supposed to be fun. And hopefully it's more fun this year than it was last year!

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Looks like Andy’s been talking to Fred Glass. I will believe Archie Miller can coach when he makes the NCAA tournaments a few times in a row and wins some games in it. 

He's already done that, just not at IU.


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[Hoosierfan2017 21,057]

Joey Brunk standing next to De'ron. 

 

 

[southernindianahoosier2 902]

4 hours ago, Iugradman said:

Looks like Andy’s been talking to Fred Glass. I will believe Archie Miller can coach when he makes the NCAA tournaments a few times in a row and wins some games in it. 

Well Archie looking better than Tom Crean is like being the best looking person in a room full of lepers. 

[Capt. Crimson 3,425]

45 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Well Archie looking better than Tom Crean is like being the best looking person in a room full of lepers. 

Hot take

[Stuhoo 79,863]

56 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Joey Brunk standing next to De'ron. 

 

 

 

Holy crap ... DeRon Davis has most definitely lost some lbs. An in-shape DeRon combined with his late-season attitude toward leadership and accountability would be a helluva player for IU this coming season.

 

[8bucks 6,380]

 
Holy crap ... DeRon Davis has most definitely lost some lbs. An in-shape DeRon combined with his late-season attitude toward leadership and accountability would be a helluva player for IU this coming season.
 

Yeah I thought the same. I need to check out his fitness program.


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