TOM CREAN FIRED

[mdn82 25,456]

Crean said it himself, it's Indiana. We should ALWAYS be ranked. We should be in EVERY dance. We should ALWAYS make it out of the first game of the dance.

Crean has only done that once correct? he's been here 8 years...

Twice. I think 9 out of 10 years in the dance. No team makes it every year. I remember when IU had made it the most years in a row and it was just over 20.

[JSHoosier 19,559]

Crean said it himself, it's Indiana. We should ALWAYS be ranked. We should be in EVERY dance. We should ALWAYS make it out of the first game of the dance.

 

Crean has only done that once correct? he's been here 8 years... 

I think we should be competing for the B1G every season.  The tournament can be a bit of a crap shoot so there will always be years when we lose early.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

Agreed. My bar is IU finishes in the top 4 of the big ten every year and be taking the conference crown every 2 out of 5 years, or so. We are constantly on the outside looking in in this era of IU bball. Unacceptable. If we somehow take 1st this year, I will change my tune.

College ball is way too even now across the landscape to just absolute dominate. We are in a real conference, not the SEC

[Parakeet Jones 3,733]

I think we should be competing for the B1G every season. The tournament can be a bit of a crap shoot so there will always be years when we lose early.

I agree. If we are good enough to compete for the B1G, March will take care of itself more years than not.

[OliviaPope40 6,295]

If I win the Powerball I'll buy out his contract and Brad Stevens' contract as well.

[MikeRoberts 6,832]

If I win the Powerball I'll buy out his contract and Brad Stevens' contract as well.

do you live in chino?

[RBB89 3,497]

actually we looked great for 20 minutes, not 40. That second half was not good basketball. We let J.Lyle to the lid at will. I hated our 2nd half, but I suppose it's hard to play killer D up by 25-30.

Yeah, I'm not going to get too upset over that second half. They never got it under 20-22. Lyle was the only one doing anything. Even when we got "sloppy" (which inevitably happens when up 36) we never really lost control. There's a reason you don't see a bunch of 60 point wins. That was a pretty solid effort for the entire game.

[Dalton26 16,891]

It seemed like we kind of went on cruise control which I'm fine with. We didn't completely collapse and I'll never complain about a 25 pt win.

[seanmm1971 1,437]

do you live in chino?

Or Tennessee or Florida .

[hoosierpap 14,300]

Just going to drop this here :D

 

 

Coaches Proving Haters Wrong- ESPN

 

1. Tom Crean, Indiana Hoosiers

 

Many expected Crean to mishandle one of the nation's most talented rosters, fail to implement a noticeable defense and eventually accept a $7.5 million buyout this summer. Early losses to Wake Forest and UNLV -- along with a deplorable defense -- only emboldened the doubters. But Indiana is 4-0 in Big Ten play right now -- all without injured wing James Blackmon (15.8 PPG). And the Hoosiers are the -- wait for it -- Big Ten's current leader in defensive efficiency in conference play, per KenPom.com. Positive start for a squad that hasn't suffered a loss since the Big Ten/ACC Challenge.

[fwgreenway 474]

Thanks pap. Must say that info is interesting. This whole season is turning very interesting. My head is going to explode.

[LIHoosier 24,997]

Just going to drop this here :D


Coaches Proving Haters Wrong- ESPN

1. Tom Crean, Indiana Hoosiers

Devils advocate, IF things don't end up well, will they post an article on writers who jumped the gun?

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Just going to drop this here :D


Coaches Proving Haters Wrong- ESPN

1. Tom Crean, Indiana Hoosiers

Many expected Crean to mishandle one of the nation's most talented rosters, fail to implement a noticeable defense and eventually accept a $7.5 million buyout this summer. Early losses to Wake Forest and UNLV -- along with a deplorable defense -- only emboldened the doubters. But Indiana is 4-0 in Big Ten play right now -- all without injured wing James Blackmon (15.8 PPG). And the Hoosiers are the -- wait for it -- Big Ten's current leader in defensive efficiency in conference play, per KenPom.com. Positive start for a squad that hasn't suffered a loss since the Big Ten/ACC Challenge.

Biggest complaint about him is inconsistency. He's actually a solid coach, but unfortunately only for stretches of time during a season. Every year he makes some adjustment that we see successfully play out over the course of some number of games. Wish it lasted all season.

[brandct 610]

I might be in the minority, but honestly I don't care if he wins the B1G I think he should be fired. He has proved what he is and that is very inconsistent, and unable to make lasting change. On the bright side though we have not had anymore problems with the law since the beginning of the year. 

[JSHoosier 19,559]

I don't care what he does this year, and frankly no one should.  This is his 17th year as a head coach and aside from a whopping 2 conference titles he hasn't won a thing.  He makes a good adjustment sometimes but on the whole he is wildly mediocre.  In power 5 conferences he's finished in the top 5 twice to date.  At this point in his career he is what he is, and he's not going to improve much (and he needs to improve quite a bit).  With that much of a sample size one year shouldn't be enough to save him.

 

He's in the deep water and he's not a good swimmer.  Get a boat and get him out of there instead of thinking he'll turn into Michael Phelps.

[coonhounds 8,690]

Just going to drop this here :D


Coaches Proving Haters Wrong- ESPN

1. Tom Crean, Indiana Hoosiers

Many expected Crean to mishandle one of the nation's most talented rosters, fail to implement a noticeable defense and eventually accept a $7.5 million buyout this summer. Early losses to Wake Forest and UNLV -- along with a deplorable defense -- only emboldened the doubters. But Indiana is 4-0 in Big Ten play right now -- all without injured wing James Blackmon (15.8 PPG). And the Hoosiers are the -- wait for it -- Big Ten's current leader in defensive efficiency in conference play, per KenPom.com. Positive start for a squad that hasn't suffered a loss since the Big Ten/ACC Challenge.

I still think everyone should be patient. We look good now but don't look at the schedule. The more I look at February the more I realize judgment day is coming and there could be alot of ammunition for the crean haters. Trips to Iowa, Michigan state, purdue at home and Maryland at home won't be easy. Also going to Wisconsin won't be easy going. I am happy with what crean has accomplished since duke but it is a mirage due to lack of competition possibly. Let's just take it a game at a time crean and our hoosiers have a long way to go to finish this season. Just hope we keep getting better or it may be one of Creans worst finishes to a season and that says alot

[hoosierpap 14,300]

I still think everyone should be patient. We look good now but don't look at the schedule. The more I look at February the more I realize judgment day is coming and there could be alot of ammunition for the crean haters. Trips to Iowa, Michigan state, purdue at home and Maryland at home won't be easy. Also going to Wisconsin won't be easy going. I am happy with what crean has accomplished since duke but it is a mirage due to lack of competition possibly. Let's just take it a game at a time crean and our hoosiers have a long way to go to finish this season. Just hope we keep getting better or it may be one of Creans worst finishes to a season and that says alot

I mean, IU started 5-1 in conference last year so I get your point...I was just keeping the discussion going :)

[mdn82 25,456]

12-6 and I'm reaching a little bit? I have actually given Crean praise when his team executes a well thought out game plan. The problem is they are far and few between and when his game plan falters he can't coach his way into a win. The book is out; you and everyone else knows it.

Been waiting to bring this back up on two fronts. Is 12-6 still reaching on my end? Where has the praise been. Been far more quiet since we have played better. Curious on both...

[Trish 11,408]

Well with Fred giving a huge extension to Wilson for an okay season, I can only imagine Crean will get an extension for an okay season we will have.

I want to see what he can do when we actually play hard teams in our conference. It's been a cakewalk so far

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Well with Fred giving a huge extension to Wilson for an okay season, I can only imagine Crean will get an extension for an okay season we will have.

I want to see what he can do when we actually play hard teams in our conference. It's been a cakewalk so far

Well, his choice was extend him or fire him so...