TOM CREAN FIRED

[Brass Cannon 24,664]

Billy D is my choice other than Stevens. He seemed to like College ball more than Stevens just seemed like he got tired of being third tier at Florida. 

[maharkn 1,726]

If we got Alford would Wilkes and the other Ball brothers follow him

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[JSHoosier 20,112]

30 minutes ago, recker222000 said:

And then michigan came in and schooled the zone in the final four running mcgary at the ft line. That Syracuse game was such a coaching debacle. You are correct zeller never took a jump shot and now he has bryant running around on the three point line. Bizarre.

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His 'preparation' for that game was a special level of horrendous, that team was so comically unprepared for the game.  It was so bad he'd have more of an excuse if he didn't do any preparation for it.

He's not an incompetent coach, but he sure looked like it that time.  The offense didn't do a thing to create an open look, just stood around and slowly reversed the ball; the only chance they had of getting a look was Syracuse getting lost on the way to the game.

[hsrtxp 1,400]

1. Stevens--obviously!

2. Holtmann--would be a solid hire!

3. Archie Miller--a very close 2nd to Holtmann.

I live in the Dayton area currently and know quite a few UD alums and fans. They have some serious fear that IU will come after Archie.


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[mdn82 25,510]

Bill would have fit right in with the team a few years ago, if ya know what I mean. My only worry with Bill Walton as a coach is the sitting around in a circle singing kumbaya during timeouts. Other than that we should be good.

They might not play out of control then...


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[mdn82 25,510]

If we got Alford would Wilkes and the other Ball brothers follow him

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God no


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[Hoosier_roots 138]

Have to be impressed with Mike Brey as well. Doesn't get the highest rated recruits but seems to get the "right" ones. His teams play well together. They had a total of 6 TO's tonight at Miami. 6!


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[mdn82 25,510]

Have to be impressed with Mike Brey as well. Doesn't get the highest rated recruits but seems to get the "right" ones. His teams play well together. They had a total of 6 TO's tonight at Miami. 6!

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I agree they play well. But much like the Greg Marshall argument he hasn't left there for a better opportunity. Why? I don't think he could recruit well enough here to make us happy.

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I live in the Dayton area currently and know quite a few UD alums and fans. They have some serious fear that IU will come after Archie.


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He is probably not in my A list but if we can get a Bills donuts as well then I am interested.

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

49 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

His 'preparation' for that game was a special level of horrendous, that team was so comically unprepared for the game.  It was so bad he'd have more of an excuse if he didn't do any preparation for it.

He's not an incompetent coach, but he sure looked like it that time.  The offense didn't do a thing to create an open look, just stood around and slowly reversed the ball; the only chance they had of getting a look was Syracuse getting lost on the way to the game.

Pretty sure you have to work at it to be that unprepared.

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6 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I agree they play well. But much like the Greg Marshall argument he hasn't left there. I don't think he could recruit well enough to make us happy.


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South Bend is a hard sell. Place is a dump and men's bball is the third sport there. He's matured into a pretty good coach, I'd take him over Crean in a heartbeat. But he's still a bit down on my wish list.

[JSHoosier 20,112]

Just now, Alford Bailey said:

Pretty sure you have to work at it to be that unprepared.

Sadly that was my thought was well, it takes some sort of effort for preparation to be that much of an epic fail.

It was so bad we had two chances to win:  Syracuse gets lost on the way, or their players die laughing at our approach.

[JSHoosier 20,112]

55 minutes ago, maharkn said:

If we got Alford would Wilkes and the other Ball brothers follow him

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It's not that difficult to find better coaches than Crean.  Steve Alford is not among them.

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

14 minutes ago, Hoosier_roots said:

Have to be impressed with Mike Brey as well. Doesn't get the highest rated recruits but seems to get the "right" ones. His teams play well together. They had a total of 6 TO's tonight at Miami. 6!


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Very good coach. 

[Ryno6284 2,644]

9 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Very good coach. 

I agree, though he is a little old for my liking.  I would love to get somebody who is going to be here 25+ years.  I know, wishful thinking!

[Banksyrules 4,712]

24 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I agree they play well. But much like the Greg Marshall argument he hasn't left there for a better opportunity. Why? I don't think he could recruit well enough here to make us happy.

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I think he stayed because the Koch (sp?) brothers stepped up and gave him a huge salary bump.  I think.  

[HoosierAloha 30,067]

I think he stayed because the Koch (sp?) brothers stepped up and gave him a huge salary bump.  I think.  

But who was beating down the doors to get him to leave? I think he's a solid coach in a good environment for him and his capabilities.

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

15 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I agree, though he is a little old for my liking.  I would love to get somebody who is going to be here 25+ years.  I know, wishful thinking!

Agree. I also think he wouldnt recruit like we want. 

[HoosierAloha 30,067]

Let's go with the recruiting "star" rating for possible replacements.

5* - Stevens, Donovan
4* - Holtmann, Miller

Where would you put the others?

[mdn82 25,510]

Let's go with the recruiting "star" rating for possible replacements.

5* - Stevens, Donovan
4* - Holtmann, Miller

Where would you put the others?

I would honestly place Holtmann as a low 5* based on potential. He is in that Zeller range, but with Vonleh's game. Boom or bust with a solid base.


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