TOM CREAN FIRED

[Alford Bailey 12,373]

7 hours ago, pumpfake said:

A couple of weeks ago when someone pointed out that this is CTC's 9th season, it really sunk in that other programs have come back from worse and achieved more in less time.  Look at Kentucky after the Emory cash delivery - they were having greater success in half as many years.  There is nothing about the program that is trending upward - especially recruiting. 

A good coach/recruiter can turn around a basketball program in 1-2 years especially with resources like IU has.

[JSHoosier 20,115]

10 hours ago, Rookie33 said:

 

Purdue flexer?

 

That was Sheehey.  Isn't it pretty well known that he's not a fan?

[pumpfake 3,935]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

A good coach/recruiter can turn around a basketball program in 1-2 years especially with resources like IU has.

Absolutely true.  I'll even say that the right coach could have had us playing much smarter, tougher basketball right from the get-go without high-level recruits.  One other thing that I've thought about over the last month or so: going back a year or two ago, when it looked like our 2016 recruiting was going to be, uh disappointing, I read repeatedly in various forums that the 2017 class is where Crean really needed to bring in a top recruiting class.  Well, right now it looks underwhelming and will be far from a killer class.  This will make twice that we essentially whiffed coming off a successful season of winning the big 10.

[Brass Cannon 24,680]

4 hours ago, mdn82 said:

He contacted him directly and had convos. We were trying to guess and figure it out for a while on the mod board. There was a thread he started the athletic department asked us to take down immediately after he started it. Denied then announced a couple days later.

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What was the announcement?

[recker222000 1,010]

Thank you.  Sheesh...I feel out of the loop.   If anyone really knows basketball, at least from my chair, it's pretty clear we're paying a guy $3 million annually to do very basic things on the court.  Things any good high school coach could teach, and certainly any college coach with a brain and a little talent can adjust to.   Personally, I know lots of alums who are upset Crean does so poorly recruiting in Indiana.  Let's face it....lots of fans want to follow recruits, and we can't do it because they all go elsewhere.   

I seem to recall a couple players weren't big fans, according to the janitor.

3.5 million a year to be exact. Fred has the negotiating skills of a three year old. Fred got schooled creans agent.

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[recker222000 1,010]

I can't imagine Matt Roth is too fond of him. 

I certainly wpuld not think so nor maurice creek.

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[mdn82 25,510]

What was the announcement?

I think it was when the video guy left if I remember correctly. It was something stupid but the athletic office hadn't been told yet and we were trying to get credentials.


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[Alford Bailey 12,373]

2 hours ago, pumpfake said:

Absolutely true.  I'll even say that the right coach could have had us playing much smarter, tougher basketball right from the get-go without high-level recruits.  One other thing that I've thought about over the last month or so: going back a year or two ago, when it looked like our 2016 recruiting was going to be, uh disappointing, I read repeatedly in various forums that the 2017 class is where Crean really needed to bring in a top recruiting class.  Well, right now it looks underwhelming and will be far from a killer class.  This will make twice that we essentially whiffed coming off a successful season of winning the big 10.

Yes that 2017 class was gonna be great with plenty of instate talent. Missed on all of them.

[mdn82 25,510]

That wasn't his only good info, but that told me he had good enough contacts to make the athletic department jump and probably start trying to figure out who he was. Cause only a couple people knew.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,282]

That wasn't his only good info, but that told me he had good enough contacts to make the athletic department jump and probably start trying to figure out who he was. Cause only a couple people knew.


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Like I said before he had tons of scoop he would DM me with. When the Heat players were coming into practice far in advance. Little things sometimes with injuries. Bad attitudes. Breaking rules. Coach search stuff at one point. Players that were or weren't good in practice (recruits).

He Didn't know everything but seemed to be WAY ahead of anyone else.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,282]

Translation please:

In regards to if we could make an elite hire, from Janitor
@HoosierTrav since "new hire" hasn't been mentioned.. it is difficult to say..let's just say the "buzz" is back and it's warmer in the gym


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[recker222000 1,010]

Yes that 2017 class was gonna be great with plenty of instate talent. Missed on all of them.

He was going to lock down the state. His words.

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[mdn82 25,510]

He was going to lock down the state. His words.

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Don't recall him ever saying that and that was a reason that pissed people off around here.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Translation please:

In regards to if we could make an elite hire, from Janitor
@HoosierTrav since "new hire" hasn't been mentioned.. it is difficult to say..let's just say the "buzz" is back and it's warmer in the gym


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Sounds like his seat is heating up, but there hasn't been actually discussions on possible replacements.


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[recker222000 1,010]

Don't recall him ever saying that and that was a reason that pissed people off around here.


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He said it on a press conference early on. I will never forget it.

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[mdn82 25,510]

He said it on a press conference early on. I will never forget it.

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Sorry I just don't recall those words ever coming out of his mouth. I remember him saying he was going to build relationships with instate coaches much like Tom Allen did recently which Crean never did. But I don't recall him saying he was going to lock down this state. He speaks much like a lawyer and I don't see him making that mistake. With the schools surrounding this state that is an impossible statement to make. I think the wording was probably different or you interpreted it different.


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[OliviaPope40 6,512]

2 hours ago, mdn82 said:

I think it was when the video guy left if I remember correctly. It was something stupid but the athletic office hadn't been told yet and we were trying to get credentials.


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And yet Ty Rogers who was the video guy is now at Duke helping them on videos and photos. 

[OliviaPope40 6,512]

15 hours ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

Cody seems very talkative about the team. The tweet the other day of so we get the best teams and get beat by bad teams got it made that clear to me and him also retweeting something of ipfw is worried IU win hurts them by how bad we have been.

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He seems about the last person who would have it in for Crean no way.

[recker222000 1,010]

Sorry I just don't recall those words ever coming out of his mouth. I remember him saying he was going to build relationships with instate coaches much like Tom Allen did recently which Crean never did. But I don't recall him saying he was going to lock down this state. He speaks much like a lawyer and I don't see him making that mistake. With the schools surrounding this state that is an impossible statement to make. I think the wording was probably different or you interpreted it different.


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Well i will try and find it. I am not making it up for the fun of it.

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[southernindianahoosier 422]

He seems about the last person who would have it in for Crean no way.

I bet he would publicly never say a bad word against Crean. But privately, I'd like to hear what he has to say about him.