KNOBYDOX

I live in the deep south and only get my information from this board. Thank you! Every year I read about IU has turned the corner and the new season is going to be soooo much better.BS! New players and 5 star players won’t impress me anymore with this coach. Please get rid of Mich Wooden!!!

Expect nothing less.

Yep. They've given Woodson enough rope to hang himself. The proof is in the playing season. Tired of winning the off-season and not the season that counts.
God forbid anyone posts in this thread that isn't totally pumping sunshine. Happy he's got some talent, but gonna hold my excitement until he actually does something with it.

Maybe because there are too many "Senior" members on here lol

What the experts forget is we have gotten several VISITS from some of the best transfers in the portal! Heck, one even committed!!! That’s as good as wins in my book.
That coupled with everyone coming back (expect arguably our MOST productive player from last season) and Woody is fixin’ to turn up the heat in the kitchen!!! This year our problem was talent… not next year. Next season we are going to be rolling in west coast talent. Watch out B1G, Woody iscoming for you, and he’s ready for dinner!

After seeing the coaching market this off-season, I’m not to confident Dolson would be able to field anyone good, let alone great. While I want Woodson fired tonight, the Kentucky search along with others has made it clear that Indiana isn’t going to hire an A, let alone a B+ hire next season. Unless Brad Steven’s wants to get back into it, I don’t know a single candidate that Indiana could land at this point.  
Assuming the Ballo kid commits and others, Indiana should make the dance. 
I’ve unfortunately accepted the fact that Indiana isn’t Indiana anymore. It’s an average to below average program that has money and a very supportive fan base. It’s Nebraska Football. 

Maybe for some however for others it might take more then 1 year of success with to change their stance.  Just like for some it wasn’t the 1 bad year that had them upset with Woody but just another thing that added to the frustration.  Any program can have a little success in a  year  but the goal would be to have a coach that can put a program in the best position each year to have sustained success.  South Carolina had a great year last and then lost in the first round and I’m sure their fans loved last year but the goal I’m guessing for them is to follow that up with more success.    Some will need to see more then 1 good year and for some it wont matter if he is successful multiple years they want a new voice regardless.  It takes a coach to have to eat, sleep and breathe college basketball to put a program in the best position to be a winning program.   24/7 

Where to start with all this nonsense..
 
Can’t believe people’s number 1 concern last offseason was shooting. My number 1 concern was coaching. We could have done more with the roster we had which is true for previous seasons too.
 
On the topic of offseasons, looks like we’ve entered our most successful season of the year. Get the banners ready boys!
 
We need many things including players and coaching who understand spacing. While that’s extremely important, we leaders on the court and sidelines badly.
 
How many times have we led for a recruit thinking we had them in the bag only to watch them go elsewhere? Imaginary lineups are fun but maybe we sign those portal players, get them on campus, and have an off-season with much less yapping and a lot more leading to improve themselves and the team.
 
Super happy to have TJD and JHS get drafted last season and hopefully Ware this season. I’m more concerned about how players impact IU winning games. We’re like a Cal-at-pUKe-lite getting players drafted but haven’t don’t ****-for-all to improve the IU program.
 
BS isn’t coming to IU until we have better administrators. Not sure how this has changed over the last few years
 
You would think with how the program directs all the trolls with burners they could do better directing what truly matters but here we are
 
 

Fire Mike Woodson!

Start a new thread on how things can improve to see if you can have an articulate dialogue from people that want to do that.  Probably not going to get that in here.  If people want to be miserable for the next 11 months that’s their choice. Looking for a good debate and discussion just isn’t going to happen in this thread doesn’t mean it can’t happen in another one 

I ain't mad at all and I understand your point (I think - I hope). Please allow me to take a stab at it from the mods' point of view:
There are two current diametrically opposing views about threads veering off topic:
The posters that are pissed when, in their opinion, any and every thread evolves into an anti-Woodson thread. The posters that are pissed because, in their opinion, they can't say anything anti-Woodson, even when they think it is relevant to the discussion at hand. My take? Both points of view are right.
It is a challenge to read the board and keep things kinda/sorta on track and reasonable. And it is a given that threads will occasionally veer off-topic. It is also a reality that an individual poster may only post off-topic (in this case anti-Woodson) once and feel it is overzealous to have the thread contain a warning or have a post hidden. But when that is done, it is because of a trend, not any particular post.
So here is how we try to do it (remember, we make mistakes too!):
Have a (very active) thread that is a place to vent about Woodson sucking and as a bad choice for IUBB Coach. Allow topics to veer some.  But when there are a series of posts that veer a thread, such as a recruiting thread, into an anti-Woodson "it doesn't matter who we get because the staff sux" thread, we try to steer the thread back to its intended and described topic. We want readers to be able to click on a thread topic and generally get the content relevant to the thread title. It's a subjective challenge, but we try to get it right.
Our hope? That posters take the totality of the board into consideration when they see a topic veering - making it a place for great Hoosier fans and adding to the success of the interactions.
Hope that helps!
Stu (on behalf of all of the mods)

I heard similar stuff last year after the portal. I'll withhold judgement until I see how they play together and under Woody

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Ultimately, it is an Administration issue.  The Administration hired Woodson and the Administration retained Woodson.  Our problem is that Dolson's background is in fundraising, so schmoozing boosters and making them happy has always been his priority.  Rumor was that Dolson realized that Woodson isn't the answer.  However, it appears that Dolson's instinct to appease donors won out which means another underperforming year for IU basketball. 

I believe it is administration and BOT. But behind all of that over the years is incompetent BIG MONEY.

Up here in Portland Ind at a beagle club with no Wi-Fi or cable. I didn’t get to watch the trees play but glad they won. Hopefully I will see our team excel again in my lifetime.

I no longer live in Indiana so haven’t seen much of Ind St until tonight.  They are a fun team to watch.  Great ball movement.   Not just fun but winning as well. Never thought as IU fan I would be somewhat jealous of Ind St ☹️

I am nihilistic about it all.  I don't think it really matters.  It might be fun to dunk on some people who are riding the sunshine train right now but other than that, I am expecting a ceiling of around 20-12 and on the bubble.  I haven't seen anybody in the portal that screams, "This! This is who we needed" and I doubt any of the "secret agent" guys will either.
The people pumping the sunshine are falling for the same crap we have fallen for every summer for like 8 years now.  The "help is on the way" fallacy.  Players matter but not as much as coaches do in college.  Woodson and staff still haven't figured that out.  They think they are going to buy their way to the big 3 in Miami through the portal.  That isn't how it works at this level.  Yeah, you can accumulate talent that way but THE most important thing is the coaching staff.  We have been given no indication that anything is changing on that front.  No new faces and no commitment to running a different system.
They could go out and land the starting five for whomever wins the championship this year and I would still caution to wait and see because of the staff.

I think Ace Bailey is the best Pro in the class. Got my eye on Edgecomb too.


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I think he was also our best FT shooter 

As a 65 yr old who experienced 74-76.  And 81 with 87 added!  I was hoping to see at least a few more from then but wtf?  I don’t know but it’s not looking good for me gang.  Was hoping our new President would be a positive influence as she is a sports fan.  Damn it, get ur $hit together IU!  Get off the woke BS and build the university back where it should be!  John Ryan days!

I think he was also our best FT shooter 

I think he was also our best FT shooter 

I think he was also our best FT shooter 

I’m in the hope or delusional way of thinking, that this offseason the meetings with him went like this - “Mike, we can both admit that this isn’t working out. You’ll have one year with unlimited money to field a team to have your swan song year. After next season, you walk away, head held high and walk off into the sunset”.


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Then why did we hire Woodson? Bridge my @$$. It was payback for Buckner's pal because he was butt hurt when we hired Archie.
If we truly wanted  a "20-year guy" there was no reason to fart around with an unqualified former Hoosier legend who had no business even in the discussion.
I'd love to see the basketball program come back, but I just don't see it happening with this administration - from Buckner all the way down the janitor that replaced Martha the Mop Lady.
And, oh, yeah, FIRE MIKE WOODSON.