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Right that definitely makes sense….would just rather you say “yeah, it means he’s gone after this season” haha

Does make me wonder though…would IU putting out these feelers mean their plan is to for sure make a move after this season, or would they still make this step planning to have Woodson another year?

So, this already obviously looking to be a very good point and is being acted upon.

Well after seeing his message, for me, that’s not the only thing moving lol

Singling out the great point of the bold part, and it’s how I see it as well. Those things rolled into one should seem like something that makes it even easier to transition to a new coach. Gonna need a new handful of players anyways, and only have ONE recruit onboard for the future, who a new coach could even talk into staying. There’s really not much set up for next year that we’re gonna be like “well crap, we’re gonna miss out on all that if we make a change”.

Yep for sure..at this point I guess we gotta sit around and hope Dolson isn’t too late making the move and have next year turn out like this one. My fear is he having the mindset of “let’s give him another year to turn this around before we let him go and hand it off to the next guy”…because I see NO point in that at all.

I hope Dolson sees no need to try to rebuild with a bridge coach. Go out and get your guy before someone else does and let HIM rebuild the thing. I just think it’s so pointless at this stage with how Woodson has done and how he’s done it to have him be the guy to try to piece back together a team for next year if we end up needing 5-7 guys in the portal. Get the new coach in here to do that and get the ball rolling for the long term.

I wonder if new President Whitten, knowing she’s really into sports and their success, would lean more towards making sure we tie up or next guy sooner than later if Dolson hints towards anything relating to making a move and not risking losing out on guys to other openings? I’d like to think she’s plugged into things such as Ohio State making the move, etc. Would she be someone more on Buckner side of things who wants to keep his buddy, or can having her now kind of give people who want the change more confidence that it could happen?

Haha, I’m like that too. Difference with this one is, Woodson’s not the guy long term to be getting us where we need to be and be set for a long period of time. It’d be different with a younger guy who acted like he gave a crap about what was going on. Knowing he was brought in to try to just kinda be a bridge guy anyways, it’s like so what if we we make the move “a year early” if we know who we want to replace him. What’s the point of giving him “one more year” if we have to make a change anyways? At this point I don’t care about giving Woodson a chance to right the ship, and that has nothing to do with him as a person. I think he’s great and appreciate everything he’s attempted to do for the program. If the new guy we need can get portal guys just as much as Woodson can then I don’t wanna have to delay the future. He says stuff like he shouldn’t have to answer to the fans but then has also said “I just hope the fans still love me”. I think him turning the keys over to the next guy will get the fans to love him a whole heck of a lot more than trying to put up with his stubborn ego of thinking it needs to be his way to get it turned around, because we’ve seen so far that it’s not gonna work.

Makes sense to me. I mentioned yesterday that I wouldn’t doubt if the move Ohio State made had to have somehow gotten the wheels spinning in Dolson’s head, or at least I’d hope it did. If he thinks there’s a chance Ohio State tries to get someone he wants to take Woodson’s spot then hopefully he’s ready to act on that. I could still see OSU going in a different direction than May because of the other names that have been mentioned though. If Dolson and May have already discussed the possibility of him taking over for Woodson, which, that’s a maybe/maybe not, then May could turn down Ohio State and then they obviously end up going with one of the others mentioned on the list of possibilities…and let’s say OSU does indeed go after May and he declines…they’d probably not even mention/admit that and just say that they got their #1 guy they went after.

Haha well shucks, I guess I’ll put it out there that it’s not true….maybe I just worded the text differently! lol

Dolson’s texts to Dusty May: Hey, so you’re telling Ohio State no and still on board with us right? Ok cool just making sure. I’ll let you know soon enough whether we need you this spring or not til next. Sit tight, thanks.

Let’s just make a deal with the administration that if this thread reaches…let’s say… page 93 by the end of the day, then it’s prob best to make a move sooner than later.

I’m about ready to just buy Mike a brand new set of golf clubs myself if that helps get the ball rolling lol

Stuff like this makes me keep going back to wondering if Dolson knows this about May, has already had discussions about being the guy after Woodson, and is a matter of just sitting tight at FAU until they get Woodson to hang it up. Could be pretty telling if these other destinations open up and Dusty chooses to stay at FAU instead of accepting other jobs. Unless stuff really hits the fan this season and Dolson calls him up and says hey we’re ready for you now.

Gosh I hope the move by Ohio State intensifies the possible talks from Dolson and Co of just getting Woodson to retire. I know nothing another school does should have anything to do with us, but it could indeed end up being a domino that affects who we want to go after. Instead of making sure we get choice #1, we just end up settling and having to go with someone else because another school got our guy. They’re a football school and are making the move to get rid of their basketball coach before the season is even over. One thing I can see as another possible reason for Woodson staying another year aside from his chance of getting back on track, is Dolson thinking May is our guy and already having discussions with him about taking over. Let Woodson get 4th year, try to turn things around through portal, then peacefully retire and May comes in. A way we can think this is a possible scenario is if we see these other jobs opening up after this season, and Dusty May making the decision to want to stay put at FAU next year. It’s just not gonna be any fun at all to see Woodson end up getting some guards and then it not matter at all because of how he chooses to use them. I know it seems to be easy to say that it’s because the guards we have this year just aren’t that good but dang it that’s on him. He said himself that the only reason why we played a certain way was because we had Trayce and once he’s gone then we’ll a completely different style. Nope…just plug in Ware and Sparks into Trayce’s position and do the same ol stuff. TJD and JHS made him look really good, and he thinks he needs NBA ready type guys to be successful and there are coaches who have boat raced him with players who aren’t. I’d love to be proven wrong if he ends up getting good guards and he changes his style to use them the right way, but until then, I just don’t have confidence he’ll do that based off what he’s chosen to do thus far. As of now the only thing I expect is for him to get guards to teach how to feed the ball to the post.

I hope this is how Dolson sees it. Gonna need a handful of new faces for next year anyways, so let’s have the new guy take the reins and plug those pieces in himself to plan for the future.

Great post, this is exactly how I feel about it. It’s gonna be a big time rebuild with a ton of new players next year anyways, so why not get the new coach in here now to do it himself with guys he wants instead of having Woodson and his staff do it and then we risk the season playing out the exact same way this one does. He’s gonna end up getting a handful of guards and then teach them how to throw it in the post…

Yep for sure, and I would surely think/hope that Dolson is fully aware of that scenario if May is someone he’s got in mind for the job, making the move sooner than later to prevent things like that from happening.

I really do hope Dolson feels like he needs to make a move sooner than later to be able to get May if he thinks he needs to be the guy. I realize it’d be a dream destination and he’d come regardless, but let’s say Ohio State or Louisville or something opens up after this season and he gets offered the job. He wouldn’t want to turn that down would he? Then he could be fine with being at those schools for a little while with success while we sit and risk going through mediocre seasons with Woodson some more. Also, I saw someone mention it being a pretty bad look that Woodson wasn’t on the coaches show and had Hunter do it instead. I wonder if there really is something to that or just isn’t that big of a deal. I know Woodson had that comment a while back saying something like he doesn’t need to answer to the fans….so just could seem like an odd time to miss the show after losing by 20 to Purdue again. Like I said, I’m not saying that’s the reason he missed, but I understand the optics that could have to some people.

Welp, I can tell I think about this topic too much haha: last night had a dream that I was at Assembly Hall and we played against ISU. When Schertz walked out onto the floor from the tunnel our crowd stood up and gave him a roaring ovation lol. Then they beat us and as he walked off, our crowd cheered for him again and he waved at the crowd with a big smile. Someone in the seats by me went “that’s the guy a lot of people hope will be our next coach.” when I woke up I kinda chuckled and couldn’t believe I just had a dream like that ha.

I’d probably be happy with any of May, Shrews, or Schertz. Their style of basketball is just way more fun to watch and they’re doing it without all the 5 stars Woodson seems to need to make him look successful in his system at this level. I don’t see any reason why those coaches couldn’t get some 5 stars to come to a school like IU with the resources and allure we have. I’d think they’d be able to get higher ranked players to go to a school like IU than FAU or ISU if they pursue them. Obviously competition is gonna be way more fierce in the Big Ten than what May or Schertz are going up against now at their schools, so talent matters, but at the same time look at the likes of Purdue. Painter doesn’t think he has to get a bunch of JHSs or TJDs to be successful in a system that works. Just seems to be that Woodson thinks he needs NBA ready players to make his style work and if he doesn’t get them then he’s screwed.

Surely hope that happens. I understand Woodson maybe wanting to be back to kind of prove that this season was a fluke, but if we have a big roster turnover anyways of like 6-7 players, then I say why not do it with a new coach to build it his way with his players for the future? Hopefully Buckner, May, etc see it that way for the betterment of the program. Woodson could grab all the players he wants, but unless he gets a handful of TJDs and JHSs to mask the way he operates the college game, then we’d prob risk seeing what we did this year. If he does end up being back and ends up getting good guys to plug in and it happens to work, then great, I’ll surely be rooting him on…it’s just that the way this season has turned out there seems to be that fear of what if it happens again when we can get our next guy now and not risk it.

Something I saw most likely happen from last nights game was getting Ohio State to decide to get rid of Chris Holtmann and make the move to hire someone we’d want to replace Woodson lol I know the fear a lot of people don’t wanna risk and deal with is this staff doing just enough to stay afloat with wins like this and stay an inconsistent program, while other teams in our position make the moves for coaches we wish we had. I agree with Stuhoo as well. His post game presser even after being able to pull out that win was just no joy at all and like he’s wore out and ready to be done.

I wondered if there’d be a scenario where if Dolson does end up wanting to be done with Woodson after this year, instead of actually publicly firing him, doing him a solid of making it look like a mutual thing that was planned, but the more I thought about that, it probably wouldn’t make sense since he was given the raise and extension. if Dolson does indeed have a list of people he is interested in who would want the job after this season then he’d want to make sure it happened now before they went elsewhere, right? I agree that everyone involved will let the season play out and decide which way to go at the end, but dang, if someone is interested after this season and we can get the ball rolling instead of wondering if next season will be any better with Woodson then let’s get it done.