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Ricochet

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  1. 24 minutes ago, vemmeistars said:

    As long as they keep Ace Bailey, I think they'll land him. Not a big deal for IU if they can land Fland and/or some combination of Mustaf/Schwartz/Passmore/Perry.

    If Rutgers doesn't get Harper who says they can hold onto Ace Bailey? Recruiting is about momentum and if you don't capitalize when you can and if can disappear as quickly as it came. 

    I can see IU having its best recruiting class ever by rankings in '24 as much as I can see them missing out on most. It's all about capitalizing on the momentum of the hype and winning an other variables so one needs to strike why the iron is hot and as IU fans we should no this because IU was right there with UNC, UCLA, Duke, KU and UK in the way.the national media sees IU. Hell Today they see MSU as the elite program of the BIG TEN.  They see MSU at the top but not in the same level as the blue blood programs.

    I honestly think '24 could be the turning point for IU if they could land Dylan Harper.  As well all know IU is in the thick of it with several 5 star and/or close to 5 star talents who on there own could choose IU but getting Dylan Harper is going to.attract more and more elite of the elite talent.


  2. IMO Watford would be a perfect fit at IU.  I have to believe that IU will have a transfer or two because these kids want to play ball and some are going to realize that they just aren't going to see much PT.  

    Watford is the ideal prospect to take over the hybrid PF with stretch/point forward skills from Morgan.  

    If IU was lucky enough to get Brooks and Watford to go with TJD and Franklin then IU is going to be so deep that it will lead to a transfer amongst the some of the frontcourt players.

    IU would have nice 1-2 punch at C with Davis and TJD.

    If Hunter returns to 100% and IU gets Brooks then you have one hell of a 1-2 punch at SF with Anderson trying to find minutes. 

    Justin Smith has proven that he's more PF than SF and come next season IMO he stays at the 4. Geting Watford would once again create another great 1-2 punch.

    The backcourt is a little trickier as I think they without question need another PG as I think Phinisee is the only true PG that IU has. That said once Romeo is gone I don't think IU a true SG as I see Green, Durham and Franklin are more comboguard than anything else.  If not a stud PG to form an awesome 1-2 punch with Phinisee then a stud shooter at SG but that doesn't seem to be in the cards and expect those 4 to make up the backcourt next season.

    I'm not hating on or starting rumors just going by deductive reasoning and logic that there 3 talented scholarship players vying to be a 3rd string C and/or 3rd string PF in this scenario. Those 3 are Moore, Thompson and Forrester.  

    If this recruiting class really happens then I would think that especially Moore would want to move on because his competitive nature is going to want to see PT and it's just not going to happen with what IU's going to have on the depth chart above him.

    Unless there is some drastic changes I think the best Thompson and Forrester can do is fight for the 3rd string PF position.

    As I said before,  this is nothing more than a guess/prediction and with no malice for the players that I think could transfer for PT reasons.  So with said I think there is chance that IU will have 2 transfers after the seaon but believe 1 will without a doubt happens.

    The 2019 recruiting class will be 4 to 5 man class. The funny thing is elite talent wants to play with elite talent so the more 5 star prospects that IU lands the percentage of getting another greatly improves.  Getting TJD has improved IU's chances to get Brooks. Getting Brooks IMO greatly improves that chances with Watford.  Getting Watford would really open up the chances of adding better and better talents if they had scholarships open up.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


  3. 16 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

    Will Hurt even play college ball?  It's possible the 1 and done rule is over by then. 

    IMO he's going to college even if the NBA changes the rule because the one negative of his game is his lack of strength. His game is great, highly skilled but he needs to get vastly stronger before he can play against grown @$$ men. 


  4. 8 hours ago, yogisballin said:

    Yessir. And what if Juwan doesn't go pro? Look out! We will have several players 6'7 and up to put on the floor with 1 guard. I love it

     

    Juwan is the epitome of a good college player but that said the NBA isn't clamoring for players like him. Don't get me wrong I love the player that he is but he's not what the NBA is looking for and I don't see him getting draft after his senior season let alonr after his junior season. 

     

     


  5. 1 hour ago, Hoosier Guy said:

    Well Archie wants a 7 man class. I don't think that's the smart thing to do but I have faith in him

    I would agree if you're not a program that can't recruit one and done recruits.  However this is the time to recruit the one and done types when 4 or 5 of those 7 would be 4-5 year players. 


  6. I really like the Forrester's upside but with Clifton Moore and Race Thompson in the '17 class and the guys that they are in on early in '19 at the PF and/or comboforwards it's a bit surprising if you ask me.

    Like Clifton Moore I can see him as a career 3rd string PF or he puts it together and reaches that upside he has but there is a reason both are rated 3 star prospects. 

    I will like this pickup even more if he's (RS) red-shirted next season because the athleticism and upside is there but like I said before there is a reason it called up side and like I said before there is reason why he's only rated 3 star.  

    It just makes sense to RS him IMO, because come the 2018-19 season IU is going to have a senior PF in Juwan Morgan, the very similar Moore will have a season under his belt and the RS Freshman with a year of practice under his belt. There is no real reason to waste a year on being the 4th PF next season. 

     


  7. 37 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

    of course you mean, not like UK

    That's right not like UK. Having some mercenaries is fine actually its a good thing IMO but what I wouldn't want is team full of mecenaries. 

    Having elite NBA talents that are 1 and done types will make those 4/5 year players better whether we like it or not. 


  8. 3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

    If we don't have a top 10 class in 2018 I will be shocked.

    IMO This is why Crean was fired. Even with crappy recruiters, IU should always have a Top 10 class because of who they are and a state that produces top talent.  

    With what IU is and with a of top recruiters, they should be getting truly great classes that should push for the #1 from time to time.  


  9. 17 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

    Someone make me feel better about why UK fans would want him...

    Because he's great, passionate guy who is loved in the hoops world by just about everybody. 

    While he might have not been the best head coach, not all coaches are meant to be HC and that may very well be the case with him that said innthe past he has been known as a great right hand for the HC. 

    I love this hire, great recruiter who will help get this team playing hard on D. 


  10. It's funny that some of you guys mentioned Chuck Martin because I was coming here to post something about him. 

    I just heard from a guy that I've known for ages now who's dialed into all this and we talked plenty of IU Hoops and all that is relevant about the program.  So we got talking about Coach Miller's potential staff and it blows his mind how many people would rather have a former IU player on staff rather than having the best possible coaches and recruiters. 

    From there we got talking about Chuck Martin and thinks it wouldn't be a bad idea to hold onto him because if IU wants to get back to the heights of the past that not only do they need to get the best of Indiana & the MidWest but to get national talents from the East & West coast. 

    From what I've been told from someone I trust thinks that Chuck Martin was a HR hire but that it was Crean that in the end unraveled the easy layup of closing of prospects that Coach Martin set him up.

    I tend to believe this but have no proof but I'm hearing from someone who I know and who is connected to the hoops/recruiting world.  But the reason I can believe it that it seems like IU was  making in-roads with some of these top prospects. Quite a few of them were predictied that they were going to go to IU, but as Crean got more involved to close them it certainly seemed as thats when they pulled back or eliminated IU.  It was then that despite being a good decent man (Crean) supposedly that there was talk of guys passing on IU because that he was way too weird. 


  11. 1 hour ago, CR3AMnCR1MS0N said:

    Okay... So I've told a couple friends and family members that I read a rumor here a while back the Romeo supposedly liked the idea of playing at IU but not Crean.  Am I off my rocker for remembering seeing that? I've tried searching the thread and haven't found the post I feel I remember.

    I'm not quite sure on this one but it certainly seems to fit the theme that Crean was doing something to creep out prospects.  There have been way too many cases of top prospects interested in IU to then quickly drop IU as they got to know Crean and Co. better. 

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