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So on Bates... IIRC... he was going to skip college altogether. Then he reclassified. Committed to Sparty. Then flipped to Memphis. Started hot at Memphis, then injured, then returned and still did OK for a frosh. Decided to transfer, and thought Meatchicken and Louisville were favs. Ends up at a MAC? Can't keep all this straight lol. Good luck to him though. Will be interesting to see his level of talent in the MAC.
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Wonder if he's heading back home to OK, to join Moser. I think he lost his associate HC to Sac St.
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Poll: IU's preseason outcome (of the 4 big games)
Southside replied to Southside's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Look at Brass drinking the Kool Aide I like it... I think 3-1 is a real possibility given UNC's lead up to their trip to Bloomington. -
Poll: IU's preseason outcome (of the 4 big games)
Southside replied to Southside's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I voted 2-2, wins over Xavier and AZ, and love it (it's what big programs do). I would not be shocked though if we were 3-1 or 1-3. -
I really doubt anyone expects us to sweep the 4. I'd assume most would simply be happy with a split. I'm assuming we'll be even or slight road favorites when we go to Xavier. Right now, I'm sure UNC would be healthy road favorites when they come to Bloomington. But that will depend of course on what we do vs Xavier, and what UNC does in the Phil Knight Invitational (#14 Nova, #18 OR, #19 Bama, #24 UConn, Mich. St.) out in Portland Nov24-27. But... UNC might be a bit worn out playing 3 games on the West Coast once they come to Bloomington only a few days after getting done in Portland. AZ will be a neutral site game (Vegas), and right now assume a toss up more or less. Kansas has a week off before we play them, and as of now, they'd be healthy home favorites. They play Duke early, and then the Battle for Atlantis, so we'll have a good idea what they look like prior to playing them.
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Beating Kansas or UNC would both be huge for us. One is the defending NC and preseason #6, the other a preseason #1 and runner up in the Dance. Neither will be easy lol. Winning either would likely shock some, not all.
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Classics and Challenges don't really tie you down if you don't want them to. We're doing the Empire Classic (formerly 2K classic) next year with no long term tie downs. And they don't have to keep you from scheduling other big games. We're in two this season and still scheduled Kansas and AZ. Next season, we'll have the ACC/B10 Challenge, the Empire Classic (either TX, Louisville, or UConn), and Kansas. If we partner and create our own, we'll have more control as well (compared to a conf sponsored event).
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I'd love to see some creative "classics" in our future. I don't care if it's PU, Butler, ND, or Ball State lol. Heck, take all the IN teams (4 above) and do a classic with the B12 (future B12). You could do Houston, Cinci, Kansas, KSU, Baylor, TTU, etc.. Or do an all IN vs all TX classic. I've been wanting an SEC matchup classic as well. With Gavitt coming to an end, wouldn't be surprised to see something in the works.
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Nah man, at least give me a playoff team lol
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In short, I just prefer the early big games. Win or lose, they will pay off later in the season, and/or post season. At the end of the day, if you want to be a big time program, you need big time preseason games like this. Woody had a good first year. He's got his work cut out for him in year 2. Got my popcorn.
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And AZ... 3 matchups before the season starts, then 2 more teams in-season. Fun stuff
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Couldn't really do that now that ND and the Ville are both in the ACC.
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That was ND/IU/Ville/KY
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Just pasting with the update 2022-23 SCHEDULE at Xavier, Date TBD (Cincinnati, Ohio) vs. Miami (Ohio), Nov. 20 (TBD) vs. Little Rock, Nov. 23 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Jackson State, Nov. 25 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) vs. Kennesaw State, Dec. 23, 2022 (Bloomington, Ind.) Big Ten regular season: Home: Nebraska, Ohio State, Wisconsin Away: Maryland, Minnesota, Penn State Home/Away: Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue, Rutgers Big Ten Tournament: Chicago, United Center. 2023-24 and Beyond Big Ten / ACC Challenge – TBD Empire Classic, TBD (New York) - UConn, Indiana, Texas, and Louisville vs. Kansas, Dec. 16 2023 (Bloomington, Ind.) Big Ten Tournament: Minneapolis, Minn.
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I'm more than OK with getting Xavier instead of Nova. Easier for fans that want to attend. Also, I like the thought of Nova punching Sparty in the mouth early preseason. Villanova at Michigan State Indiana at Xavier Iowa at Seton Hall Marquette at Purdue Butler at Penn State Northwestern at Georgetown Nebraska at St. John’s DePaul at Minnesota https://www.insidethehall.com/2022/06/27/report-indiana-to-travel-to-xavier-for-2022-gavitt-games/
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I really don't care about the "where" to be honest. Have always wanted IU and some other team from IN to get KY and Louisville in some type of yearly classic. PU would be good. Butler if they every get good again. Also wouldn't mind a Kentucky + Tennessee vs IU and PU in a yearly classic. Or IU and ND...
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Welp, I don't see him going to Bradley, and offers are free to give. IIRC, Adams has spent time at IU with Crean, so has IN connections. Not sure how he (Adams) is thought of by the current staff, but no reason not to extend a little effort.
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I think it's about time to offer the kid from Kokomo, no?
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And hoping KY and Louisville get added regularly in the near future.
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I mean, Hulls' title is Recruiting Coordinator (he replaced Walsh) lol... But I'd love him to help out in the shooting space too. I'm guessing Walsh is the one teaching most of the hit-the-broadside-of-the-barn stuff given his background (G, and good 3pt shooter for the Zips). Rosemond was a G too. I'm guessing Hunter is still focusing on the bigs.
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Yup. Nova or Xavier. I don't care which to be honest. Xavier is better fans to travel. Nova would likely draw bigger ratings. But PS games vs AZ, UNC, Kansas, and Nova would be pretty crazy lol. Glad we have the cupcakes. Watch the BE throw us a curve ball though in terms of matchups lol. I'd be more than happy with 2-2 even if it's Xavier and not Nova. Regardless, it'll boost SoS big time, but most of all, help us improve for the regular season.
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That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams
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Hoping we hear our Gavitt matchups tomorrow. Last year's announcement was on 6-24 at 2pm (below). My guess is Nova. https://bigten.org/news/2021/6/24/mens-basketball-big-east-and-big-ten-announce-matchups-for-2021-gavitt-tipoff-games.aspx
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I honestly don't care about being the favorite. I do love the fact we're in the conversation after only one year with Woody. That's pretty incredible to me. And with recruiting looking up like it has been, it's hard not be optimistic about the program right now.
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Thank you. I was just about ready to start digging on the same. I'm going with Villanova since we played Creighton already. Agree on UNC. My head is whispering UVA though.